C++
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I've programmed in both, in fact, I cut my teeth on C++, programmed in it exclusively for over 15 years and I really like the language. But I also have, in more recent years, spent most of my time doing C#, it has much to offer. And I've grown used to they way things are done in C#, so now I find myself wishing C++ would do some things the C# way --sometimes-- and other times, I wish for C# to adopt some C++ isms. Almost sounds like I'm talking about "D". Maybe I should make a "D++" language. We could always use another... :rolleyes:
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert EinsteinC# sure is easier to write and maintain. Every time I've taken a short break from C++ and done only C#, the return to C++ had been a little difficult. Your brain just struggles for a day or two getting used to having to think more. The faster way more responsive apps make up for that though :-)
Regards, Nish
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C# sure is easier to write and maintain. Every time I've taken a short break from C++ and done only C#, the return to C++ had been a little difficult. Your brain just struggles for a day or two getting used to having to think more. The faster way more responsive apps make up for that though :-)
Regards, Nish
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Indeed.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein -
Speaking of skills I had once learned, I find myself coding in C++ again for the Beaglebone Black. While it's a nostalgic experience, I really, really, don't miss it. It's as if someone were to give me back my first car in the same condition it was in when I gave it away. Functional, does the job, etc., but old and clunky. Oh, and have I said before how I loathe Eclipse? Indeed I have. Unfortunately, the Eclipse IDE just adds to the annoyance of working in C++. For $350, this[^] is becoming more and more attractive. Marc
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At $100 I highly recommend this tool: http://www.wingdb.com/wgFeatures.htm[^] I've been using it since 2010. It works extremely well. I will have to check out VisualGDB.
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Speaking of skills I had once learned, I find myself coding in C++ again for the Beaglebone Black. While it's a nostalgic experience, I really, really, don't miss it. It's as if someone were to give me back my first car in the same condition it was in when I gave it away. Functional, does the job, etc., but old and clunky. Oh, and have I said before how I loathe Eclipse? Indeed I have. Unfortunately, the Eclipse IDE just adds to the annoyance of working in C++. For $350, this[^] is becoming more and more attractive. Marc
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Last standardization made
C++much more attractive, in my opinion. However, I recognize that highly depends on your needs. For instance, I still love coding inCbut I preferLuafor fast prototyping and whenever higher level features are of great advantage (for the coder).Marc Clifton wrote:
Oh, and have I said before how I loathe Eclipse? Indeed I have. Unfortunately, the Eclipse IDE just adds to the annoyance of working in C++
Man, using
Javacode for writingC++is frustrating, both for the developer and theC++itself. On the lucky sideviis written inC.THESE PEOPLE REALLY BOTHER ME!! How can they know what you should do without knowing what you want done?!?! -- C++ FQA Lite
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Marc Clifton wrote:
And then of course, the huge issue -- having to remember to delete objects! Having automated garbage collection is just so nice
Well, once you get used to unique_ptr and shared_ptr, that should take care of that issue :-)
Regards, Nish
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Nish Sivakumar wrote:
Well, once you get used to unique_ptr and shared_ptr, that should take care of that issue
Definitely useful. While I sound like a curmudgeon, it's still a bandaid. But...thank you for pointing (harhar) those out -- I'll make use of them, looks like gcc-linaro supports those constructs. Guess I should tool up on my knowledge of where C++ has gone since I last used it. :-O Marc
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At $100 I highly recommend this tool: http://www.wingdb.com/wgFeatures.htm[^] I've been using it since 2010. It works extremely well. I will have to check out VisualGDB.
Paul M Watt wrote:
At $100 I highly recommend this tool:
Thanks! Looks quite useful. Marc
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Last standardization made
C++much more attractive, in my opinion. However, I recognize that highly depends on your needs. For instance, I still love coding inCbut I preferLuafor fast prototyping and whenever higher level features are of great advantage (for the coder).Marc Clifton wrote:
Oh, and have I said before how I loathe Eclipse? Indeed I have. Unfortunately, the Eclipse IDE just adds to the annoyance of working in C++
Man, using
Javacode for writingC++is frustrating, both for the developer and theC++itself. On the lucky sideviis written inC.THESE PEOPLE REALLY BOTHER ME!! How can they know what you should do without knowing what you want done?!?! -- C++ FQA Lite
CPallini wrote:
On the lucky side
viis written inC.Unlike many of the PC and MacIntosh editors, the mouse does not move the cursor within the vi editor screen (or window). You must use the the key commands listed below. On some UNIX platforms, the arrow keys may be used as well; however, since vi was designed with the Qwerty keyboard (containing no arrow keys) in mind, the arrow keys sometimes produce strange effects in vi and should be avoided. OK, there's the stone ages, and then there's primordial ooze. vi belongs to the latter. ;) Marc
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CPallini wrote:
On the lucky side
viis written inC.Unlike many of the PC and MacIntosh editors, the mouse does not move the cursor within the vi editor screen (or window). You must use the the key commands listed below. On some UNIX platforms, the arrow keys may be used as well; however, since vi was designed with the Qwerty keyboard (containing no arrow keys) in mind, the arrow keys sometimes produce strange effects in vi and should be avoided. OK, there's the stone ages, and then there's primordial ooze. vi belongs to the latter. ;) Marc
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:thumbsup:
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein -
Nice way to take advantage of Marc's boring analogy and use it as a chance to tell us about your first car. Been dying to do that, haven't you? :rolleyes:
Regards, Nish
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Nish Sivakumar wrote:
Marc's boring analogy
Boring? BORING??? Come now, I spent actual BC's (brain cycles) working that analogy. A little respect, please! Marc
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If you are using a recent compiler, you should be able to use C++ 11 features like lambdas that would make it similar to your C#/Java programming.
Regards, Nish
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Bah. I prefer the C++014X version, and am positively drooling at what is being investigated for 17X.
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Bah. I prefer the C++014X version, and am positively drooling at what is being investigated for 17X.
So then I can ask, "is your compiler 17?" :cool:
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
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CPallini wrote:
On the lucky side
viis written inC.Unlike many of the PC and MacIntosh editors, the mouse does not move the cursor within the vi editor screen (or window). You must use the the key commands listed below. On some UNIX platforms, the arrow keys may be used as well; however, since vi was designed with the Qwerty keyboard (containing no arrow keys) in mind, the arrow keys sometimes produce strange effects in vi and should be avoided. OK, there's the stone ages, and then there's primordial ooze. vi belongs to the latter. ;) Marc
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If you don't like the primordial ooze you could use
vim. You don't even need a cross compiler with toC&vi.THESE PEOPLE REALLY BOTHER ME!! How can they know what you should do without knowing what you want done?!?! -- C++ FQA Lite
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Speaking of skills I had once learned, I find myself coding in C++ again for the Beaglebone Black. While it's a nostalgic experience, I really, really, don't miss it. It's as if someone were to give me back my first car in the same condition it was in when I gave it away. Functional, does the job, etc., but old and clunky. Oh, and have I said before how I loathe Eclipse? Indeed I have. Unfortunately, the Eclipse IDE just adds to the annoyance of working in C++. For $350, this[^] is becoming more and more attractive. Marc
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I agree Eclipse does really suck, what little I've done on BBB has been using it and C++. I guess that one reason I haven't done a lot with the BBB. As far as C++ I've been writing code encouraging the old embedded C programmers to convert but I tried that 20 some odd years ago at a place I worked and I met resistance at every turn and eventually gave up. Given C or C++ I'll take C++ every time.
As I grow older I've found that pleasing everyone is impossible but pissing everyone off is a piece of cake.
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So then I can ask, "is your compiler 17?" :cool:
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
You certainly can.
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You certainly can.
:jig:
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
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Speaking of skills I had once learned, I find myself coding in C++ again for the Beaglebone Black. While it's a nostalgic experience, I really, really, don't miss it. It's as if someone were to give me back my first car in the same condition it was in when I gave it away. Functional, does the job, etc., but old and clunky. Oh, and have I said before how I loathe Eclipse? Indeed I have. Unfortunately, the Eclipse IDE just adds to the annoyance of working in C++. For $350, this[^] is becoming more and more attractive. Marc
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VisualGBD looks interesting...
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That would help, but it's also things like writing header files to define the class structure and the a separate cpp file for the implementation. Seems archaic. And then of course, the huge issue -- having to remember to delete objects! Having automated garbage collection is just so nice. Marc
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I prefer A well written header file over a single ASP .Net page with 1000+ lines JavaScript and 3500 lines code behind. The header can serve as a directory without all the details not only for the compiler, but even more for the developers. I know that managing your memory is below most people's dignity now. In most cases it turns out that I just have to write 'delete oSomeStuff' instead of 'someStuff.Dispose()'. If that's all. Garbage collectorss make programmers ignorant and wasteful anyway. But if you must, why don't you get yourself a garbage collector for C++?
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
I hold an A-7 computer expert classification, Commodore. I'm well acquainted with Dr. Daystrom's theories and discoveries. The basic design of all our ship's computers are JavaScript. -
Speaking of skills I had once learned, I find myself coding in C++ again for the Beaglebone Black. While it's a nostalgic experience, I really, really, don't miss it. It's as if someone were to give me back my first car in the same condition it was in when I gave it away. Functional, does the job, etc., but old and clunky. Oh, and have I said before how I loathe Eclipse? Indeed I have. Unfortunately, the Eclipse IDE just adds to the annoyance of working in C++. For $350, this[^] is becoming more and more attractive. Marc
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old and clunky? have you looked at C++11? the language continues to evolve and has some nice updates through the latest standard.
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and the chicks. :wtf:
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein -
CPallini wrote:
On the lucky side
viis written inC.Unlike many of the PC and MacIntosh editors, the mouse does not move the cursor within the vi editor screen (or window). You must use the the key commands listed below. On some UNIX platforms, the arrow keys may be used as well; however, since vi was designed with the Qwerty keyboard (containing no arrow keys) in mind, the arrow keys sometimes produce strange effects in vi and should be avoided. OK, there's the stone ages, and then there's primordial ooze. vi belongs to the latter. ;) Marc
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Pfft, arrow keys, the greatest key ever created is the Gold Key. http://archive.computerhistory.org/resources/physical-object/digital_equipment_corporation_dec/102654870.lg.jpg[^]
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
