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CPallini wrote:
On the lucky side
viis written inC.Unlike many of the PC and MacIntosh editors, the mouse does not move the cursor within the vi editor screen (or window). You must use the the key commands listed below. On some UNIX platforms, the arrow keys may be used as well; however, since vi was designed with the Qwerty keyboard (containing no arrow keys) in mind, the arrow keys sometimes produce strange effects in vi and should be avoided. OK, there's the stone ages, and then there's primordial ooze. vi belongs to the latter. ;) Marc
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Pfft, arrow keys, the greatest key ever created is the Gold Key. http://archive.computerhistory.org/resources/physical-object/digital_equipment_corporation_dec/102654870.lg.jpg[^]
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
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I agree Eclipse does really suck, what little I've done on BBB has been using it and C++. I guess that one reason I haven't done a lot with the BBB. As far as C++ I've been writing code encouraging the old embedded C programmers to convert but I tried that 20 some odd years ago at a place I worked and I met resistance at every turn and eventually gave up. Given C or C++ I'll take C++ every time.
As I grow older I've found that pleasing everyone is impossible but pissing everyone off is a piece of cake.
Mike Hankey wrote:
Given C or C++ I'll take C++ every time.
100% agreed. Marc
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old and clunky? have you looked at C++11? the language continues to evolve and has some nice updates through the latest standard.
Dave Calkins wrote:
the language continues to evolve and has some nice updates through the latest standard.
I know - I need to brush up (actually, more like get a big broom and sweep up!) Marc
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That depends on what you are used to. A lot of my C++ dev friends hate C# syntax.
Regards, Nish
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To be honest here, Nish! Assuming the devs are just getting exposed to both the language at the same time. I'm sure C# attracts more. The simplicity of the language and robust .net framework behind the scene makes C# the preferred choice. Having said that, I truly loved every bit of C++ too. My first so many years of programming were only with C++. And I truly loved working with it. There were no complaints except for those unhumanly STL compiler error "messages". & some wired Syntaxes like the static variable "initialization" in Cpp files to name. I understand it's a language feature, but it's still not intuitive. But once I got into C#, there was no compelling reason for me to try something in C++. And honestly, I never LEARNED C# by reading books or tutorials. One fine day, I simply started coding in C# ;). I find it's one of the most intuitive language. Only when we talk about performance constraints, I might look back at C++. When I say "C++" , I mean the platform-independant , standard , stroustrup's C++. Microsoft's implementation gives me creeps :doh: Anybody wishing to learn C++ through MS implementation, I'm sure would run away. The arrow marks <^>^ pointing all directions makes the code less readable. To read it (Sample below!) like a love letter, you gotta be a bot like NISH! ;P
emplate
void ReadString(String^ fileName, Callback func)
{
StorageFolder^ item = KnownFolders::PicturesLibrary;auto getFileOp = item->GetFileAsync(fileName);
getFileOp->Completed = ref new AsyncOperationCompletedHandler
([=](IAsyncOperation^ operation, AsyncStatus status)
{
auto storageFile = operation->GetResults();
auto openOp = storageFile->OpenAsync(FileAccessMode::Read);
openOp->Completed =
ref new AsyncOperationCompletedHandler ([=](IAsyncOperation^ operation, AsyncStatus status)
{
auto istream = operation->GetResults();
auto reader = ref new DataReader(istream);
auto loadOp = reader->LoadAsync(istream->Size);
loadOp->Completed = ref new AsyncOperationCompletedHandler
([=](IAsyncOperation^ operation, AsyncStatus status)
{
auto bytesRead = operation->GetResults();
auto str = reader->ReadString(bytesRead);
func(str);
});
});
});
}Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the las
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Mike Hankey wrote:
Given C or C++ I'll take C++ every time.
100% agreed. Marc
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To be honest here, Nish! Assuming the devs are just getting exposed to both the language at the same time. I'm sure C# attracts more. The simplicity of the language and robust .net framework behind the scene makes C# the preferred choice. Having said that, I truly loved every bit of C++ too. My first so many years of programming were only with C++. And I truly loved working with it. There were no complaints except for those unhumanly STL compiler error "messages". & some wired Syntaxes like the static variable "initialization" in Cpp files to name. I understand it's a language feature, but it's still not intuitive. But once I got into C#, there was no compelling reason for me to try something in C++. And honestly, I never LEARNED C# by reading books or tutorials. One fine day, I simply started coding in C# ;). I find it's one of the most intuitive language. Only when we talk about performance constraints, I might look back at C++. When I say "C++" , I mean the platform-independant , standard , stroustrup's C++. Microsoft's implementation gives me creeps :doh: Anybody wishing to learn C++ through MS implementation, I'm sure would run away. The arrow marks <^>^ pointing all directions makes the code less readable. To read it (Sample below!) like a love letter, you gotta be a bot like NISH! ;P
emplate
void ReadString(String^ fileName, Callback func)
{
StorageFolder^ item = KnownFolders::PicturesLibrary;auto getFileOp = item->GetFileAsync(fileName);
getFileOp->Completed = ref new AsyncOperationCompletedHandler
([=](IAsyncOperation^ operation, AsyncStatus status)
{
auto storageFile = operation->GetResults();
auto openOp = storageFile->OpenAsync(FileAccessMode::Read);
openOp->Completed =
ref new AsyncOperationCompletedHandler ([=](IAsyncOperation^ operation, AsyncStatus status)
{
auto istream = operation->GetResults();
auto reader = ref new DataReader(istream);
auto loadOp = reader->LoadAsync(istream->Size);
loadOp->Completed = ref new AsyncOperationCompletedHandler
([=](IAsyncOperation^ operation, AsyncStatus status)
{
auto bytesRead = operation->GetResults();
auto str = reader->ReadString(bytesRead);
func(str);
});
});
});
}Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the las
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I prefer A well written header file over a single ASP .Net page with 1000+ lines JavaScript and 3500 lines code behind. The header can serve as a directory without all the details not only for the compiler, but even more for the developers. I know that managing your memory is below most people's dignity now. In most cases it turns out that I just have to write 'delete oSomeStuff' instead of 'someStuff.Dispose()'. If that's all. Garbage collectorss make programmers ignorant and wasteful anyway. But if you must, why don't you get yourself a garbage collector for C++?
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
I hold an A-7 computer expert classification, Commodore. I'm well acquainted with Dr. Daystrom's theories and discoveries. The basic design of all our ship's computers are JavaScript.CDP1802 wrote:
I prefer A well written header file over a single ASP .Net page with 1000+ lines JavaScript and 3500 lines code behind.
have you ever seen the stdlib header files that come with VS? X|
CDP1802 wrote:
In most cases it turns out that I just have to write 'delete oSomeStuff' instead of 'someStuff.Dispose()'. If that's all.
I was going to comment on that, turns out i'm not the only one who thinks that way :laugh:
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To my eyes, that code looks more readable than the template/macro mess that is the stdlib header files on VS.
Well that was a quick n bad example. When you look at a real project, it seriously burns your eyes. But like you said, nothing beats Macros & templates in C++ ^^
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.
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CDP1802 wrote:
I prefer A well written header file over a single ASP .Net page with 1000+ lines JavaScript and 3500 lines code behind.
have you ever seen the stdlib header files that come with VS? X|
CDP1802 wrote:
In most cases it turns out that I just have to write 'delete oSomeStuff' instead of 'someStuff.Dispose()'. If that's all.
I was going to comment on that, turns out i'm not the only one who thinks that way :laugh:
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Speaking of skills I had once learned, I find myself coding in C++ again for the Beaglebone Black. While it's a nostalgic experience, I really, really, don't miss it. It's as if someone were to give me back my first car in the same condition it was in when I gave it away. Functional, does the job, etc., but old and clunky. Oh, and have I said before how I loathe Eclipse? Indeed I have. Unfortunately, the Eclipse IDE just adds to the annoyance of working in C++. For $350, this[^] is becoming more and more attractive. Marc
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Marc Clifton wrote:
Oh, and have I said before how I loathe Eclipse? Indeed I have. Unfortunately, the Eclipse IDE just adds to the annoyance of working in C++.
I'd suggest you take a look at Code::Blocks. It's my favorite C++ IDE, it's multiplatform and really easy to use.
"Whereas smaller computer languages have features designed into them, C++ is unusual in having a whole swathe of functionality discovered, like a tract of 19th century Africa." -- Verity Stob http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/05/05/cplusplus\_cli/
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Speaking of skills I had once learned, I find myself coding in C++ again for the Beaglebone Black. While it's a nostalgic experience, I really, really, don't miss it. It's as if someone were to give me back my first car in the same condition it was in when I gave it away. Functional, does the job, etc., but old and clunky. Oh, and have I said before how I loathe Eclipse? Indeed I have. Unfortunately, the Eclipse IDE just adds to the annoyance of working in C++. For $350, this[^] is becoming more and more attractive. Marc
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Unless you're also doing C++ for Android, it looks like the $220 or even $110 versions should do everything you'd need; while being a good bit easier on the wallet.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
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I agree Eclipse does really suck, what little I've done on BBB has been using it and C++. I guess that one reason I haven't done a lot with the BBB. As far as C++ I've been writing code encouraging the old embedded C programmers to convert but I tried that 20 some odd years ago at a place I worked and I met resistance at every turn and eventually gave up. Given C or C++ I'll take C++ every time.
As I grow older I've found that pleasing everyone is impossible but pissing everyone off is a piece of cake.
Do whatever you may desire with C++,AND THIS is the beauty of the language. Hey C++, I wanna come back to you, but this world is not allowing me to have the comfort, that you give to me. I literally hate this garbage collection concept, be it Java or C#.
Ankur Srivastava
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I've programmed in both, in fact, I cut my teeth on C++, programmed in it exclusively for over 15 years and I really like the language. But I also have, in more recent years, spent most of my time doing C#, it has much to offer. And I've grown used to they way things are done in C#, so now I find myself wishing C++ would do some things the C# way --sometimes-- and other times, I wish for C# to adopt some C++ isms. Almost sounds like I'm talking about "D". Maybe I should make a "D++" language. We could always use another... :rolleyes:
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You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
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D++ is already created. http://www.pagemac.com/dpp/about.php[^] :)
Ew, just Ew. X|
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
