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I agree Eclipse does really suck, what little I've done on BBB has been using it and C++. I guess that one reason I haven't done a lot with the BBB. As far as C++ I've been writing code encouraging the old embedded C programmers to convert but I tried that 20 some odd years ago at a place I worked and I met resistance at every turn and eventually gave up. Given C or C++ I'll take C++ every time.
As I grow older I've found that pleasing everyone is impossible but pissing everyone off is a piece of cake.
Mike Hankey wrote:
Given C or C++ I'll take C++ every time.
100% agreed. Marc
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old and clunky? have you looked at C++11? the language continues to evolve and has some nice updates through the latest standard.
Dave Calkins wrote:
the language continues to evolve and has some nice updates through the latest standard.
I know - I need to brush up (actually, more like get a big broom and sweep up!) Marc
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That depends on what you are used to. A lot of my C++ dev friends hate C# syntax.
Regards, Nish
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To be honest here, Nish! Assuming the devs are just getting exposed to both the language at the same time. I'm sure C# attracts more. The simplicity of the language and robust .net framework behind the scene makes C# the preferred choice. Having said that, I truly loved every bit of C++ too. My first so many years of programming were only with C++. And I truly loved working with it. There were no complaints except for those unhumanly STL compiler error "messages". & some wired Syntaxes like the static variable "initialization" in Cpp files to name. I understand it's a language feature, but it's still not intuitive. But once I got into C#, there was no compelling reason for me to try something in C++. And honestly, I never LEARNED C# by reading books or tutorials. One fine day, I simply started coding in C# ;). I find it's one of the most intuitive language. Only when we talk about performance constraints, I might look back at C++. When I say "C++" , I mean the platform-independant , standard , stroustrup's C++. Microsoft's implementation gives me creeps :doh: Anybody wishing to learn C++ through MS implementation, I'm sure would run away. The arrow marks <^>^ pointing all directions makes the code less readable. To read it (Sample below!) like a love letter, you gotta be a bot like NISH! ;P
emplate
void ReadString(String^ fileName, Callback func)
{
StorageFolder^ item = KnownFolders::PicturesLibrary;auto getFileOp = item->GetFileAsync(fileName);
getFileOp->Completed = ref new AsyncOperationCompletedHandler
([=](IAsyncOperation^ operation, AsyncStatus status)
{
auto storageFile = operation->GetResults();
auto openOp = storageFile->OpenAsync(FileAccessMode::Read);
openOp->Completed =
ref new AsyncOperationCompletedHandler ([=](IAsyncOperation^ operation, AsyncStatus status)
{
auto istream = operation->GetResults();
auto reader = ref new DataReader(istream);
auto loadOp = reader->LoadAsync(istream->Size);
loadOp->Completed = ref new AsyncOperationCompletedHandler
([=](IAsyncOperation^ operation, AsyncStatus status)
{
auto bytesRead = operation->GetResults();
auto str = reader->ReadString(bytesRead);
func(str);
});
});
});
}Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the las
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Mike Hankey wrote:
Given C or C++ I'll take C++ every time.
100% agreed. Marc
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To be honest here, Nish! Assuming the devs are just getting exposed to both the language at the same time. I'm sure C# attracts more. The simplicity of the language and robust .net framework behind the scene makes C# the preferred choice. Having said that, I truly loved every bit of C++ too. My first so many years of programming were only with C++. And I truly loved working with it. There were no complaints except for those unhumanly STL compiler error "messages". & some wired Syntaxes like the static variable "initialization" in Cpp files to name. I understand it's a language feature, but it's still not intuitive. But once I got into C#, there was no compelling reason for me to try something in C++. And honestly, I never LEARNED C# by reading books or tutorials. One fine day, I simply started coding in C# ;). I find it's one of the most intuitive language. Only when we talk about performance constraints, I might look back at C++. When I say "C++" , I mean the platform-independant , standard , stroustrup's C++. Microsoft's implementation gives me creeps :doh: Anybody wishing to learn C++ through MS implementation, I'm sure would run away. The arrow marks <^>^ pointing all directions makes the code less readable. To read it (Sample below!) like a love letter, you gotta be a bot like NISH! ;P
emplate
void ReadString(String^ fileName, Callback func)
{
StorageFolder^ item = KnownFolders::PicturesLibrary;auto getFileOp = item->GetFileAsync(fileName);
getFileOp->Completed = ref new AsyncOperationCompletedHandler
([=](IAsyncOperation^ operation, AsyncStatus status)
{
auto storageFile = operation->GetResults();
auto openOp = storageFile->OpenAsync(FileAccessMode::Read);
openOp->Completed =
ref new AsyncOperationCompletedHandler ([=](IAsyncOperation^ operation, AsyncStatus status)
{
auto istream = operation->GetResults();
auto reader = ref new DataReader(istream);
auto loadOp = reader->LoadAsync(istream->Size);
loadOp->Completed = ref new AsyncOperationCompletedHandler
([=](IAsyncOperation^ operation, AsyncStatus status)
{
auto bytesRead = operation->GetResults();
auto str = reader->ReadString(bytesRead);
func(str);
});
});
});
}Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the las
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I prefer A well written header file over a single ASP .Net page with 1000+ lines JavaScript and 3500 lines code behind. The header can serve as a directory without all the details not only for the compiler, but even more for the developers. I know that managing your memory is below most people's dignity now. In most cases it turns out that I just have to write 'delete oSomeStuff' instead of 'someStuff.Dispose()'. If that's all. Garbage collectorss make programmers ignorant and wasteful anyway. But if you must, why don't you get yourself a garbage collector for C++?
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
I hold an A-7 computer expert classification, Commodore. I'm well acquainted with Dr. Daystrom's theories and discoveries. The basic design of all our ship's computers are JavaScript.CDP1802 wrote:
I prefer A well written header file over a single ASP .Net page with 1000+ lines JavaScript and 3500 lines code behind.
have you ever seen the stdlib header files that come with VS? X|
CDP1802 wrote:
In most cases it turns out that I just have to write 'delete oSomeStuff' instead of 'someStuff.Dispose()'. If that's all.
I was going to comment on that, turns out i'm not the only one who thinks that way :laugh:
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To my eyes, that code looks more readable than the template/macro mess that is the stdlib header files on VS.
Well that was a quick n bad example. When you look at a real project, it seriously burns your eyes. But like you said, nothing beats Macros & templates in C++ ^^
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.
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CDP1802 wrote:
I prefer A well written header file over a single ASP .Net page with 1000+ lines JavaScript and 3500 lines code behind.
have you ever seen the stdlib header files that come with VS? X|
CDP1802 wrote:
In most cases it turns out that I just have to write 'delete oSomeStuff' instead of 'someStuff.Dispose()'. If that's all.
I was going to comment on that, turns out i'm not the only one who thinks that way :laugh:
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Speaking of skills I had once learned, I find myself coding in C++ again for the Beaglebone Black. While it's a nostalgic experience, I really, really, don't miss it. It's as if someone were to give me back my first car in the same condition it was in when I gave it away. Functional, does the job, etc., but old and clunky. Oh, and have I said before how I loathe Eclipse? Indeed I have. Unfortunately, the Eclipse IDE just adds to the annoyance of working in C++. For $350, this[^] is becoming more and more attractive. Marc
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Marc Clifton wrote:
Oh, and have I said before how I loathe Eclipse? Indeed I have. Unfortunately, the Eclipse IDE just adds to the annoyance of working in C++.
I'd suggest you take a look at Code::Blocks. It's my favorite C++ IDE, it's multiplatform and really easy to use.
"Whereas smaller computer languages have features designed into them, C++ is unusual in having a whole swathe of functionality discovered, like a tract of 19th century Africa." -- Verity Stob http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/05/05/cplusplus\_cli/
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Speaking of skills I had once learned, I find myself coding in C++ again for the Beaglebone Black. While it's a nostalgic experience, I really, really, don't miss it. It's as if someone were to give me back my first car in the same condition it was in when I gave it away. Functional, does the job, etc., but old and clunky. Oh, and have I said before how I loathe Eclipse? Indeed I have. Unfortunately, the Eclipse IDE just adds to the annoyance of working in C++. For $350, this[^] is becoming more and more attractive. Marc
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Unless you're also doing C++ for Android, it looks like the $220 or even $110 versions should do everything you'd need; while being a good bit easier on the wallet.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
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I agree Eclipse does really suck, what little I've done on BBB has been using it and C++. I guess that one reason I haven't done a lot with the BBB. As far as C++ I've been writing code encouraging the old embedded C programmers to convert but I tried that 20 some odd years ago at a place I worked and I met resistance at every turn and eventually gave up. Given C or C++ I'll take C++ every time.
As I grow older I've found that pleasing everyone is impossible but pissing everyone off is a piece of cake.
Do whatever you may desire with C++,AND THIS is the beauty of the language. Hey C++, I wanna come back to you, but this world is not allowing me to have the comfort, that you give to me. I literally hate this garbage collection concept, be it Java or C#.
Ankur Srivastava
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I've programmed in both, in fact, I cut my teeth on C++, programmed in it exclusively for over 15 years and I really like the language. But I also have, in more recent years, spent most of my time doing C#, it has much to offer. And I've grown used to they way things are done in C#, so now I find myself wishing C++ would do some things the C# way --sometimes-- and other times, I wish for C# to adopt some C++ isms. Almost sounds like I'm talking about "D". Maybe I should make a "D++" language. We could always use another... :rolleyes:
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D++ is already created. http://www.pagemac.com/dpp/about.php[^] :)
Ew, just Ew. X|
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
