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How much does writing articles for codeproject will help you when applying for an IT job?

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    Vasily Tserekh
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    what do you think about this

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      what do you think about this

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      Tadit Dash
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      Is it really? I have not switched job yet, so I don't have any experience on this.

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        what do you think about this

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        OriginalGriff
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        Depends. There dies seem to be an element of the membership that thinks it does, regardless of the quality. But... If an employer looks at it and sees its trite garbage, or plagiarised then I can't see that helping your application. And I would most certainly look closely if I was offered a publications list, as it's a way to see how and what the candidate thinks outside the narrow confines of a resume. Think about it: if employers are going to look you up on FarceBook to see what you are like outside work... Good, original articles can't hurt IMHO - but plagiarised garbage can't help at all...

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          Rob Philpott
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          It shows you have an interest in computers and that you can be bothered to do stuff outside work - that can only help. There are many out there who only want to know just enough to get paid. That said, if you want a potential employer to read you article, it had better impress them! Typically, I would think it makes little difference.

          Regards, Rob Philpott.

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            It shows you have an interest in computers and that you can be bothered to do stuff outside work - that can only help. There are many out there who only want to know just enough to get paid. That said, if you want a potential employer to read you article, it had better impress them! Typically, I would think it makes little difference.

            Regards, Rob Philpott.

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            OriginalGriff
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            In the case of many of the articles coming through the moderation queue these days, it would only improve job prospects if employers are looking for inarticulate plagiarists who are unbelievably proud of a "Hello World!" app they copied from a 10 year old blog from a marketeer and filed off some of the serial numbers... :laugh: So... Simon Cowell then?

            Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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              what do you think about this

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              Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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              I have to second OG (against my best judge) - it depends. If you write something really good and valuable - and original - you can get some good points. And some copy-paste work can bury you...

              I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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                In the case of many of the articles coming through the moderation queue these days, it would only improve job prospects if employers are looking for inarticulate plagiarists who are unbelievably proud of a "Hello World!" app they copied from a 10 year old blog from a marketeer and filed off some of the serial numbers... :laugh: So... Simon Cowell then?

                Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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                Why, oh why. It never used to be like this. :(

                Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                  bryce
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                  Part of the mix. If you're a crap coder then you're still a crap coder no matter how many articles you write. Bryce

                  MCAD ---

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                    what do you think about this

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                    GuyThiebaut
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                    It helped me, as it showed that I was genuinely interested in IT and that it is not just a job for me but something of a passion. When I see CV's of new young devs I scan the CV to see if they have done anything outside of their degrees - much of the time there is no sign of this. I come from a generation where computers were primarily a hobby and any interest in a job in IT was subservient to a passion in IT. It does seem nowadays, that many of the graduates coming through with computer science degrees(some with firsts, goodness knows what a first means nowadays) show little interest, or aptitude, in IT outside of their course material and what they think will be required to get a job. So I would say - go for it, write as many good articles as you can. If the articles get votes on codeproject they will show up on a google search and that can do nothing but help your job prospects.

                    “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                    ― Christopher Hitchens

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                      RossMW
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                      As someone who has had to hired staff, I would say that it won't hurt, however there is a but. I have never checked anyone's Facebook but I have checked their web presence and sometimes what I saw has put applicants in the 'Not in my lifetime' category. Published articles could be a positive however too many may raise suspicions on what you are doing at work instead of working. As a general rule I looked for staff that have diverse interests ( as long as it's not dodgy!) as I prefer balanced people who have a life outside work. I do believe there needs to be more to life then just slaving for a business This creates a happier work environment and thus improves staff retention. This is a benefit to the company because of their company/business knowledge they gain over time. I do realise however not all employers are like me !

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                        Pete OHanlon
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                        One good article wouldn't impress me that much. A history of writing good, high quality, original articles will definitely impress me. One thing to be aware of - when I'm hiring, I just look at CVs, so chances are that I'm not going to have the time to read through a whole series of articles, so try to pick the best ones and highlight them for me.

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                          As someone who has had to hired staff, I would say that it won't hurt, however there is a but. I have never checked anyone's Facebook but I have checked their web presence and sometimes what I saw has put applicants in the 'Not in my lifetime' category. Published articles could be a positive however too many may raise suspicions on what you are doing at work instead of working. As a general rule I looked for staff that have diverse interests ( as long as it's not dodgy!) as I prefer balanced people who have a life outside work. I do believe there needs to be more to life then just slaving for a business This creates a happier work environment and thus improves staff retention. This is a benefit to the company because of their company/business knowledge they gain over time. I do realise however not all employers are like me !

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                          GuyThiebaut
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                          RossMW wrote:

                          what you are doing at work instead of working

                          Perhaps some people create their projects/articles outside of work...

                          “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                          ― Christopher Hitchens

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                            what you are doing at work instead of working

                            Perhaps some people create their projects/articles outside of work...

                            “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                            ― Christopher Hitchens

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                            RossMW
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                            True. But how is a future employer to know that...

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                              what do you think about this

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                              Nemanja Trifunovic
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                              It did help me every time I changed a job. On each interview someone would ask me a few questions about an article I wrote. Now, I have no idea how much real weight it brought to the hiring decision, but it was definitely noticed. Surprisingly, my open source project seemed to impress the interviewers far less than the articles.

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                                Depends. There dies seem to be an element of the membership that thinks it does, regardless of the quality. But... If an employer looks at it and sees its trite garbage, or plagiarised then I can't see that helping your application. And I would most certainly look closely if I was offered a publications list, as it's a way to see how and what the candidate thinks outside the narrow confines of a resume. Think about it: if employers are going to look you up on FarceBook to see what you are like outside work... Good, original articles can't hurt IMHO - but plagiarised garbage can't help at all...

                                Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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                                However I could claim you plagiarized my articles... :rolleyes:

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                                  However I could claim you plagiarized my articles... :rolleyes:

                                  THESE PEOPLE REALLY BOTHER ME!! How can they know what you should do without knowing what you want done?!?! -- C++ FQA Lite

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                                  OriginalGriff
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                                  I have carbon dating evidence that says I didn't! :laugh:

                                  Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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                                  "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                                    Why, oh why. It never used to be like this. :(

                                    Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                                    Laziness, students, and a lack of interest / ability? The current generation coming through does seem to have little interest in learning "why" instead of just "churning it out and moving on". Maybe that's a sign of maturity in the industry, I dunno - but I suspect it's a sign of immaturity in the current generation instead. There are exceptions - but most of 'em seem to want to be spoon fed and expect others to do the "dull boring" stuff for them. :sigh:

                                    Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

                                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                                    "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                                      Keith Barrow
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                                      In general, yes but iif the quality of the articles written is good/ reasonable. I did see one candidate taken off an interview list when his blog was checked out on-line, and his blog seemed to be written by someone who needed to buy themselves a clue.

                                      Alberto Brandolini:

                                      The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

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                                        Laziness, students, and a lack of interest / ability? The current generation coming through does seem to have little interest in learning "why" instead of just "churning it out and moving on". Maybe that's a sign of maturity in the industry, I dunno - but I suspect it's a sign of immaturity in the current generation instead. There are exceptions - but most of 'em seem to want to be spoon fed and expect others to do the "dull boring" stuff for them. :sigh:

                                        Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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                                        OriginalGriff wrote:

                                        Laziness, students, and a lack of interest / ability?

                                        The lament of elders throughout the ages.

                                        OriginalGriff wrote:

                                        The current generation coming through does seem to have little interest in learning "why" instead of just "churning it out and moving on". Maybe that's a sign of maturity in the industry, I dunno - but I suspect it's a sign of immaturity in the current generation instead.

                                        Immaturity in the current generation seems redundant. They are the current generation and have no life's experience yet. :doh:

                                        OriginalGriff wrote:

                                        There are exceptions - but most of 'em seem to want to be spoon fed and expect others to do the "dull boring" stuff for them.

                                        The lament of elders throughout the ages. Maybe you have forgotten how you were when you were young. :doh:

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                                          Joe Woodbury
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                                          In my experience, at best it gets you in the door. On the other hand, a few years back it helped me judge a possible future company when the hiring manager complained that he couldn't find my articles. That was about all I needed to know.

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