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What next for CP?

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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    In a lot of ways, that would be an improvement: focus the site back on being about Quality rather than Quantity. I still feel (as did Luc Pattyn) that QA was a mistake - an attempt to "out-SO" SO which detracted from the programming forums and the article quality and has become largely a "do my homework" hangout. I'm pretty sure there are a couple of members holding down full time jobs purely by posting QA questions! :laugh:

    You looking for sympathy? You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric (Page 1788, if it helps)

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    Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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    Even I have a 7 year old account I didn't used it really for over 6 years so I can't remember how it was before QA, but will happy to give a chance CP without QA...

    OriginalGriff wrote:

    holding down full time jobs purely by posting QA questions

    Yes, I can see that. To be true I was tempted in the last few weeks to open an other account and send some basic (and not so basic) MVC (I'm in a process of design using MVC) questions just for fun, but hold myself... :-D

    I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

    "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

      We'd get complaints of bias from the Win8 FanBoy[^] for not giving a link to Bing! :laugh:

      You looking for sympathy? You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric (Page 1788, if it helps)

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      Bing? Are you referring to this[ª]?

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      • D DaveAuld

        So with the sad demise of Workspaces and TV the question must be, "What next for CP?". What would you like to see added or investigated? A public API has been mentioned quite a few times over the last few years, so apart from that. For me: API - but I won't mention that A slicker article editor with basic image editing features. Q&A remodel ???

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        Comics, Animated series, Films based Bob :bob:

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        • D DaveAuld

          So with the sad demise of Workspaces and TV the question must be, "What next for CP?". What would you like to see added or investigated? A public API has been mentioned quite a few times over the last few years, so apart from that. For me: API - but I won't mention that A slicker article editor with basic image editing features. Q&A remodel ???

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          Could definitely do with better question moderation - a lot of the questions asked are barely (and often not) legible. StackOveflow seems to be more pro-active in this area; I'd like to see the same thing here :) E.g. How do I update with a msg while update..[^]

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          • D DaveAuld

            So with the sad demise of Workspaces and TV the question must be, "What next for CP?". What would you like to see added or investigated? A public API has been mentioned quite a few times over the last few years, so apart from that. For me: API - but I won't mention that A slicker article editor with basic image editing features. Q&A remodel ???

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            More people back in the programming forums. (I don't know how, just make it happen)

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              More people back in the programming forums. (I don't know how, just make it happen)

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              Removing Q&A would achieve that!

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              • D DaveAuld

                Removing Q&A would achieve that!

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                thatraja
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                That'd kill forums

                thatraja

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                  That'd kill forums

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                  Why would it have that effect?

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                    Why would it have that effect?

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                    Where do you think SA would head to boost his rep points?

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                    • D DaveAuld

                      So with the sad demise of Workspaces and TV the question must be, "What next for CP?". What would you like to see added or investigated? A public API has been mentioned quite a few times over the last few years, so apart from that. For me: API - but I won't mention that A slicker article editor with basic image editing features. Q&A remodel ???

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                      Pete OHanlon
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                      Okay, here's a thought for the articles. When an article is entered for a competition, it goes to a separate moderation queue rather than the main one. That way it's going to be a lot easier to prioritise your time reviewing articles.

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                        Where do you think SA would head to boost his rep points?

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                        That other QA site perhaps, he'll fit right in.

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                          Why would it have that effect?

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                          Newbies use Q/A section to post homework, send codez, urgentz type questions.

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                            Could definitely do with better question moderation - a lot of the questions asked are barely (and often not) legible. StackOveflow seems to be more pro-active in this area; I'd like to see the same thing here :) E.g. How do I update with a msg while update..[^]

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                            One thing that would definitely help here is to expand the pool of people who can edit/move/remove messages. The pool is a lot greater in QA than it is in the forums.

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                              Okay, here's a thought for the articles. When an article is entered for a competition, it goes to a separate moderation queue rather than the main one. That way it's going to be a lot easier to prioritise your time reviewing articles.

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                              That would certainly help as the competition article often have different acceptable criteria.

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                                That'd kill forums

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                                Keith Barrow
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                                Actually, Q&A killed the forums. They used to be very active, now people want the quick gimme codez option so they aren't really used very much.

                                Alberto Brandolini:

                                The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

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                                  So with the sad demise of Workspaces and TV the question must be, "What next for CP?". What would you like to see added or investigated? A public API has been mentioned quite a few times over the last few years, so apart from that. For me: API - but I won't mention that A slicker article editor with basic image editing features. Q&A remodel ???

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                                  Keith Barrow
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                                  DaveAuld wrote:

                                  API

                                  I believe it is being worked on. For at least 5 years to my knowledge. If only they had a group of developers willing to volunteer their time to help the communi... oh, wait....

                                  Alberto Brandolini:

                                  The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

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                                    DaveAuld wrote:

                                    API

                                    I believe it is being worked on. For at least 5 years to my knowledge. If only they had a group of developers willing to volunteer their time to help the communi... oh, wait....

                                    Alberto Brandolini:

                                    The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

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                                    They could also host it in an open collaborative source repository, something like GitHub, maybe called it 'workspaces'....oh, wait :doh:

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                                    • K Keith Barrow

                                      Actually, Q&A killed the forums. They used to be very active, now people want the quick gimme codez option so they aren't really used very much.

                                      Alberto Brandolini:

                                      The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

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                                      thatraja
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                                      But still I'm glad that forums not flooded with those type of questions

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                                      • D DaveAuld

                                        So with the sad demise of Workspaces and TV the question must be, "What next for CP?". What would you like to see added or investigated? A public API has been mentioned quite a few times over the last few years, so apart from that. For me: API - but I won't mention that A slicker article editor with basic image editing features. Q&A remodel ???

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                                        Why can't Q&A do a pop over/under to google with the title of the question entered as the search criteria.

                                        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                          But still I'm glad that forums not flooded with those type of questions

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                                          Keith Barrow
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                                          The problem is the forums aren't flooded in any type of questions. Do my homework style questions were fielded, and shot down. Newbie questions were asked, often these were shot down too - but less so than Q&A - and one person shooting down would be noticed a decent help often given. The forums were much more self-policing: Let's say someone tried the "See my near identical answer" thing so prevalent in Q&A just didn't happen. This behaviour would have been called out, and very visibly (as opposed the need to open the specific question) in the forums. A lot of the worst aspects of the Q&A simply weren't tolerated in the forums.] I'm not say the forums being active was a bed of roses - guilty of grouphthink and their were dingbats questions and answewrs, but the situation was (and is) much better there.

                                          Alberto Brandolini:

                                          The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

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