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  • T thatraja

    That'd kill forums

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    Lost User
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    Why would it have that effect?

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      Why would it have that effect?

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      Pete OHanlon
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      Where do you think SA would head to boost his rep points?

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        So with the sad demise of Workspaces and TV the question must be, "What next for CP?". What would you like to see added or investigated? A public API has been mentioned quite a few times over the last few years, so apart from that. For me: API - but I won't mention that A slicker article editor with basic image editing features. Q&A remodel ???

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        Pete OHanlon
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        Okay, here's a thought for the articles. When an article is entered for a competition, it goes to a separate moderation queue rather than the main one. That way it's going to be a lot easier to prioritise your time reviewing articles.

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          Where do you think SA would head to boost his rep points?

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          Lost User
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          That other QA site perhaps, he'll fit right in.

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            Why would it have that effect?

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            thatraja
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            Newbies use Q/A section to post homework, send codez, urgentz type questions.

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              Could definitely do with better question moderation - a lot of the questions asked are barely (and often not) legible. StackOveflow seems to be more pro-active in this area; I'd like to see the same thing here :) E.g. How do I update with a msg while update..[^]

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              Pete OHanlon
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              One thing that would definitely help here is to expand the pool of people who can edit/move/remove messages. The pool is a lot greater in QA than it is in the forums.

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              • P Pete OHanlon

                Okay, here's a thought for the articles. When an article is entered for a competition, it goes to a separate moderation queue rather than the main one. That way it's going to be a lot easier to prioritise your time reviewing articles.

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                DaveAuld
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                That would certainly help as the competition article often have different acceptable criteria.

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                • T thatraja

                  That'd kill forums

                  thatraja

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                  Keith Barrow
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                  Actually, Q&A killed the forums. They used to be very active, now people want the quick gimme codez option so they aren't really used very much.

                  Alberto Brandolini:

                  The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

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                    So with the sad demise of Workspaces and TV the question must be, "What next for CP?". What would you like to see added or investigated? A public API has been mentioned quite a few times over the last few years, so apart from that. For me: API - but I won't mention that A slicker article editor with basic image editing features. Q&A remodel ???

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                    Keith Barrow
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                    DaveAuld wrote:

                    API

                    I believe it is being worked on. For at least 5 years to my knowledge. If only they had a group of developers willing to volunteer their time to help the communi... oh, wait....

                    Alberto Brandolini:

                    The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

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                    • K Keith Barrow

                      DaveAuld wrote:

                      API

                      I believe it is being worked on. For at least 5 years to my knowledge. If only they had a group of developers willing to volunteer their time to help the communi... oh, wait....

                      Alberto Brandolini:

                      The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

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                      DaveAuld
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                      They could also host it in an open collaborative source repository, something like GitHub, maybe called it 'workspaces'....oh, wait :doh:

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                      • K Keith Barrow

                        Actually, Q&A killed the forums. They used to be very active, now people want the quick gimme codez option so they aren't really used very much.

                        Alberto Brandolini:

                        The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

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                        thatraja
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                        But still I'm glad that forums not flooded with those type of questions

                        thatraja

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                          So with the sad demise of Workspaces and TV the question must be, "What next for CP?". What would you like to see added or investigated? A public API has been mentioned quite a few times over the last few years, so apart from that. For me: API - but I won't mention that A slicker article editor with basic image editing features. Q&A remodel ???

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                          Mycroft Holmes
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                          Why can't Q&A do a pop over/under to google with the title of the question entered as the search criteria.

                          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                            But still I'm glad that forums not flooded with those type of questions

                            thatraja

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                            Keith Barrow
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                            The problem is the forums aren't flooded in any type of questions. Do my homework style questions were fielded, and shot down. Newbie questions were asked, often these were shot down too - but less so than Q&A - and one person shooting down would be noticed a decent help often given. The forums were much more self-policing: Let's say someone tried the "See my near identical answer" thing so prevalent in Q&A just didn't happen. This behaviour would have been called out, and very visibly (as opposed the need to open the specific question) in the forums. A lot of the worst aspects of the Q&A simply weren't tolerated in the forums.] I'm not say the forums being active was a bed of roses - guilty of grouphthink and their were dingbats questions and answewrs, but the situation was (and is) much better there.

                            Alberto Brandolini:

                            The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

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                              Why can't Q&A do a pop over/under to google with the title of the question entered as the search criteria.

                              Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                              DaveAuld
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                              Because the results set would be full of SO links :doh:

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                                Because the results set would be full of SO links :doh:

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                                Mycroft Holmes
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                                It's grey I tell you NOT blonde!

                                Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                • T thatraja

                                  _Maxxx_ wrote:

                                  An offline article editor would be good

                                  Agree with Dave, already there's an offline editor we have. But I still prefer VS or some other editor to write things in offline.

                                  _Maxxx_ wrote:

                                  Hey! Chris! You reading this? Remember about three years ago you said you'd get back to me

                                  Surely he'll remember :laugh:

                                  _Maxxx_ wrote:

                                  Something in Q&A - I don't know what, but I just pretty much keep away these days - between the crappy questions and the snarky answers it's an unpleasant place to be!

                                  Strongly Agree. Me too :sigh:

                                  thatraja

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                                  thatraja wrote:

                                  Strongly Agree. Me too :sigh:

                                  made the mistake of going back today - and SAK once again ruined it for me.

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                                  • D DaveAuld

                                    So with the sad demise of Workspaces and TV the question must be, "What next for CP?". What would you like to see added or investigated? A public API has been mentioned quite a few times over the last few years, so apart from that. For me: API - but I won't mention that A slicker article editor with basic image editing features. Q&A remodel ???

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                                    Marc Clifton
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                                    DaveAuld wrote:

                                    So with the sad demise of Workspaces and TV the question must be,

                                    Sad? I thought both were rather useless, and workspaces was certainly annoying. What I'd like to see is some improvements to the RSS feed. The "authors" field is blank, there's no way to distinguish between updates and new articles, nor articles vs. blog posts. I'll be mentioning that in the suggestions forum at some point. :) Marc

                                    Natural Language Processing of RSS Feeds

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                                    • M Marc Clifton

                                      DaveAuld wrote:

                                      So with the sad demise of Workspaces and TV the question must be,

                                      Sad? I thought both were rather useless, and workspaces was certainly annoying. What I'd like to see is some improvements to the RSS feed. The "authors" field is blank, there's no way to distinguish between updates and new articles, nor articles vs. blog posts. I'll be mentioning that in the suggestions forum at some point. :) Marc

                                      Natural Language Processing of RSS Feeds

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                                      DaveAuld
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                                      I suppose it is only sad if you used it and liked it, or if you were one of the devs that spent many hours developing it.

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                                        I suppose it is only sad if you used it and liked it, or if you were one of the devs that spent many hours developing it.

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                                        Marc Clifton
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                                        DaveAuld wrote:

                                        I suppose it is only sad if you used it and liked it, or if you were one of the devs that spent many hours developing it.

                                        Exactly, and I have great empathy for both users and those devs. It sucks when that happens. I do wonder why it didn't take off (though certainly I'm a contributor to the problem, as all of my recent articles have the source code hosted on GitHub.) Marc

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                                          DaveAuld wrote:

                                          I suppose it is only sad if you used it and liked it, or if you were one of the devs that spent many hours developing it.

                                          Exactly, and I have great empathy for both users and those devs. It sucks when that happens. I do wonder why it didn't take off (though certainly I'm a contributor to the problem, as all of my recent articles have the source code hosted on GitHub.) Marc

                                          Natural Language Processing of RSS Feeds

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                                          DaveAuld
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                                          I'm still relatively new to github and was looking to potentially use workspaces for my private repositories and was actually looking at how you handle multiple repositories, but got distracted by other stuff so never followed through on actually starting to use workspaces. Glad I didn't now!

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