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  • D DaveAuld

    So with the sad demise of Workspaces and TV the question must be, "What next for CP?". What would you like to see added or investigated? A public API has been mentioned quite a few times over the last few years, so apart from that. For me: API - but I won't mention that A slicker article editor with basic image editing features. Q&A remodel ???

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    Keith Barrow
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    DaveAuld wrote:

    API

    I believe it is being worked on. For at least 5 years to my knowledge. If only they had a group of developers willing to volunteer their time to help the communi... oh, wait....

    Alberto Brandolini:

    The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

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      DaveAuld wrote:

      API

      I believe it is being worked on. For at least 5 years to my knowledge. If only they had a group of developers willing to volunteer their time to help the communi... oh, wait....

      Alberto Brandolini:

      The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

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      They could also host it in an open collaborative source repository, something like GitHub, maybe called it 'workspaces'....oh, wait :doh:

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      • K Keith Barrow

        Actually, Q&A killed the forums. They used to be very active, now people want the quick gimme codez option so they aren't really used very much.

        Alberto Brandolini:

        The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

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        But still I'm glad that forums not flooded with those type of questions

        thatraja

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        • D DaveAuld

          So with the sad demise of Workspaces and TV the question must be, "What next for CP?". What would you like to see added or investigated? A public API has been mentioned quite a few times over the last few years, so apart from that. For me: API - but I won't mention that A slicker article editor with basic image editing features. Q&A remodel ???

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          Mycroft Holmes
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          Why can't Q&A do a pop over/under to google with the title of the question entered as the search criteria.

          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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            But still I'm glad that forums not flooded with those type of questions

            thatraja

            Code converters | Education Needed | Improve EverythingNew

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            Keith Barrow
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            The problem is the forums aren't flooded in any type of questions. Do my homework style questions were fielded, and shot down. Newbie questions were asked, often these were shot down too - but less so than Q&A - and one person shooting down would be noticed a decent help often given. The forums were much more self-policing: Let's say someone tried the "See my near identical answer" thing so prevalent in Q&A just didn't happen. This behaviour would have been called out, and very visibly (as opposed the need to open the specific question) in the forums. A lot of the worst aspects of the Q&A simply weren't tolerated in the forums.] I'm not say the forums being active was a bed of roses - guilty of grouphthink and their were dingbats questions and answewrs, but the situation was (and is) much better there.

            Alberto Brandolini:

            The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

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            • M Mycroft Holmes

              Why can't Q&A do a pop over/under to google with the title of the question entered as the search criteria.

              Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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              DaveAuld
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              Because the results set would be full of SO links :doh:

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              • D DaveAuld

                Because the results set would be full of SO links :doh:

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                It's grey I tell you NOT blonde!

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                • T thatraja

                  _Maxxx_ wrote:

                  An offline article editor would be good

                  Agree with Dave, already there's an offline editor we have. But I still prefer VS or some other editor to write things in offline.

                  _Maxxx_ wrote:

                  Hey! Chris! You reading this? Remember about three years ago you said you'd get back to me

                  Surely he'll remember :laugh:

                  _Maxxx_ wrote:

                  Something in Q&A - I don't know what, but I just pretty much keep away these days - between the crappy questions and the snarky answers it's an unpleasant place to be!

                  Strongly Agree. Me too :sigh:

                  thatraja

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                  thatraja wrote:

                  Strongly Agree. Me too :sigh:

                  made the mistake of going back today - and SAK once again ruined it for me.

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                  • D DaveAuld

                    So with the sad demise of Workspaces and TV the question must be, "What next for CP?". What would you like to see added or investigated? A public API has been mentioned quite a few times over the last few years, so apart from that. For me: API - but I won't mention that A slicker article editor with basic image editing features. Q&A remodel ???

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                    Marc Clifton
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                    DaveAuld wrote:

                    So with the sad demise of Workspaces and TV the question must be,

                    Sad? I thought both were rather useless, and workspaces was certainly annoying. What I'd like to see is some improvements to the RSS feed. The "authors" field is blank, there's no way to distinguish between updates and new articles, nor articles vs. blog posts. I'll be mentioning that in the suggestions forum at some point. :) Marc

                    Natural Language Processing of RSS Feeds

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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      DaveAuld wrote:

                      So with the sad demise of Workspaces and TV the question must be,

                      Sad? I thought both were rather useless, and workspaces was certainly annoying. What I'd like to see is some improvements to the RSS feed. The "authors" field is blank, there's no way to distinguish between updates and new articles, nor articles vs. blog posts. I'll be mentioning that in the suggestions forum at some point. :) Marc

                      Natural Language Processing of RSS Feeds

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                      I suppose it is only sad if you used it and liked it, or if you were one of the devs that spent many hours developing it.

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                      • D DaveAuld

                        I suppose it is only sad if you used it and liked it, or if you were one of the devs that spent many hours developing it.

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                        Marc Clifton
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                        DaveAuld wrote:

                        I suppose it is only sad if you used it and liked it, or if you were one of the devs that spent many hours developing it.

                        Exactly, and I have great empathy for both users and those devs. It sucks when that happens. I do wonder why it didn't take off (though certainly I'm a contributor to the problem, as all of my recent articles have the source code hosted on GitHub.) Marc

                        Natural Language Processing of RSS Feeds

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                          DaveAuld wrote:

                          I suppose it is only sad if you used it and liked it, or if you were one of the devs that spent many hours developing it.

                          Exactly, and I have great empathy for both users and those devs. It sucks when that happens. I do wonder why it didn't take off (though certainly I'm a contributor to the problem, as all of my recent articles have the source code hosted on GitHub.) Marc

                          Natural Language Processing of RSS Feeds

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                          DaveAuld
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                          I'm still relatively new to github and was looking to potentially use workspaces for my private repositories and was actually looking at how you handle multiple repositories, but got distracted by other stuff so never followed through on actually starting to use workspaces. Glad I didn't now!

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                          • D DaveAuld

                            So with the sad demise of Workspaces and TV the question must be, "What next for CP?". What would you like to see added or investigated? A public API has been mentioned quite a few times over the last few years, so apart from that. For me: API - but I won't mention that A slicker article editor with basic image editing features. Q&A remodel ???

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                            Maximilien
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                            Buy StackOverflow.

                            I'd rather be phishing!

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                            • D DaveAuld

                              So with the sad demise of Workspaces and TV the question must be, "What next for CP?". What would you like to see added or investigated? A public API has been mentioned quite a few times over the last few years, so apart from that. For me: API - but I won't mention that A slicker article editor with basic image editing features. Q&A remodel ???

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                              Tim Carmichael
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                              Rather than ask "What's next?", ask yourself this: Why do I use CodeProject? How would I like to use CodeProject? What do I not use on CodeProject? My answers: I use CodeProject to find solutions to issues I have; I frequently find what I am looking for in arcticles. The forums I frequent are VB and Database; where I can, I will assist. I would like to see a reputation system that is based on articles and coding forums only - I shouldn't be increasing my reputation by posting inane whatever in the Lounge or any other non-coding forum. I have tried to use QA, but gave up because of the incessant 'Help plz', and other such vitriol. Tim

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                              • D DaveAuld

                                So with the sad demise of Workspaces and TV the question must be, "What next for CP?". What would you like to see added or investigated? A public API has been mentioned quite a few times over the last few years, so apart from that. For me: API - but I won't mention that A slicker article editor with basic image editing features. Q&A remodel ???

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                                Mike Hankey
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                                I agree with those and will add; A better tablet interface. Maybe I'm not doing something I should be doing but when I first come to CP on my tablet everything is desktop size and I have to scroll all the way to the bottom to change to ?full site? I think is the button label.

                                Have you ever just looked at someone and knew the wheel was turning but the hamster was dead? Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9.

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                                • P Pete OHanlon

                                  One thing that would definitely help here is to expand the pool of people who can edit/move/remove messages. The pool is a lot greater in QA than it is in the forums.

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                                  I have proposed my humble contribution several times, but am still not wise enough for it :sigh:

                                  ~RaGE();

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                                  • D DaveAuld

                                    So with the sad demise of Workspaces and TV the question must be, "What next for CP?". What would you like to see added or investigated? A public API has been mentioned quite a few times over the last few years, so apart from that. For me: API - but I won't mention that A slicker article editor with basic image editing features. Q&A remodel ???

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                                    Mark_Wallace
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                                    Well, given the time in Canadia, right now, I'd say the next thing is lunch.

                                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                    • D DaveAuld

                                      So with the sad demise of Workspaces and TV the question must be, "What next for CP?". What would you like to see added or investigated? A public API has been mentioned quite a few times over the last few years, so apart from that. For me: API - but I won't mention that A slicker article editor with basic image editing features. Q&A remodel ???

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                                      Abhinav S
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                                      Oops I never realised they had gone. TV I though was a good idea.

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                                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                        In a lot of ways, that would be an improvement: focus the site back on being about Quality rather than Quantity. I still feel (as did Luc Pattyn) that QA was a mistake - an attempt to "out-SO" SO which detracted from the programming forums and the article quality and has become largely a "do my homework" hangout. I'm pretty sure there are a couple of members holding down full time jobs purely by posting QA questions! :laugh:

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                                        Luc Pattyn
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                                        My being mentioned alert just fired. You again, Griff?? :)

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                                        • D DaveAuld

                                          Both Look and Feel and policy. There is just so much rubbish in there. I would like to just go in there with the big delete button.

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                                          DaveAuld wrote:

                                          There is just so much rubbish in there

                                          Because.. 1) Even homework questions are getting answered. 2) It happens sometime that OP posted off topic post and we suggest the right forum using comment. In that case, OP can delete the question and post it over the right forum. But what happens is, some members (believe me, being a part of rep hunting clearly) posts something as a solution and hence even if OP wants, he/she can't delete that question. And if OP is a newbie, the solution will get accepted which is totally misleading as per as QA is concerned. 3) There are some members who copies the title of the post, paste it in Google and post first N links as answer. And thats their only pattern. IMO, it won't add much value to CP just because it can't be the case all the time that OP failed to search it using one of the search engines. There are thousands of views regarding this, but the ultimate solution can be achieved only through some strict actions.

                                          "When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly"- SoMad

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