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  • L Lost User

    Why would it have that effect?

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    thatraja
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    Newbies use Q/A section to post homework, send codez, urgentz type questions.

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    • L Lost User

      Could definitely do with better question moderation - a lot of the questions asked are barely (and often not) legible. StackOveflow seems to be more pro-active in this area; I'd like to see the same thing here :) E.g. How do I update with a msg while update..[^]

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      Pete OHanlon
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      One thing that would definitely help here is to expand the pool of people who can edit/move/remove messages. The pool is a lot greater in QA than it is in the forums.

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      • P Pete OHanlon

        Okay, here's a thought for the articles. When an article is entered for a competition, it goes to a separate moderation queue rather than the main one. That way it's going to be a lot easier to prioritise your time reviewing articles.

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        DaveAuld
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        That would certainly help as the competition article often have different acceptable criteria.

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        • T thatraja

          That'd kill forums

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          Keith Barrow
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          Actually, Q&A killed the forums. They used to be very active, now people want the quick gimme codez option so they aren't really used very much.

          Alberto Brandolini:

          The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

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          • D DaveAuld

            So with the sad demise of Workspaces and TV the question must be, "What next for CP?". What would you like to see added or investigated? A public API has been mentioned quite a few times over the last few years, so apart from that. For me: API - but I won't mention that A slicker article editor with basic image editing features. Q&A remodel ???

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            Keith Barrow
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            DaveAuld wrote:

            API

            I believe it is being worked on. For at least 5 years to my knowledge. If only they had a group of developers willing to volunteer their time to help the communi... oh, wait....

            Alberto Brandolini:

            The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

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            • K Keith Barrow

              DaveAuld wrote:

              API

              I believe it is being worked on. For at least 5 years to my knowledge. If only they had a group of developers willing to volunteer their time to help the communi... oh, wait....

              Alberto Brandolini:

              The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

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              DaveAuld
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              They could also host it in an open collaborative source repository, something like GitHub, maybe called it 'workspaces'....oh, wait :doh:

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              • K Keith Barrow

                Actually, Q&A killed the forums. They used to be very active, now people want the quick gimme codez option so they aren't really used very much.

                Alberto Brandolini:

                The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

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                thatraja
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                But still I'm glad that forums not flooded with those type of questions

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                • D DaveAuld

                  So with the sad demise of Workspaces and TV the question must be, "What next for CP?". What would you like to see added or investigated? A public API has been mentioned quite a few times over the last few years, so apart from that. For me: API - but I won't mention that A slicker article editor with basic image editing features. Q&A remodel ???

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                  Mycroft Holmes
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                  Why can't Q&A do a pop over/under to google with the title of the question entered as the search criteria.

                  Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                  • T thatraja

                    But still I'm glad that forums not flooded with those type of questions

                    thatraja

                    Code converters | Education Needed | Improve EverythingNew

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                    Keith Barrow
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                    The problem is the forums aren't flooded in any type of questions. Do my homework style questions were fielded, and shot down. Newbie questions were asked, often these were shot down too - but less so than Q&A - and one person shooting down would be noticed a decent help often given. The forums were much more self-policing: Let's say someone tried the "See my near identical answer" thing so prevalent in Q&A just didn't happen. This behaviour would have been called out, and very visibly (as opposed the need to open the specific question) in the forums. A lot of the worst aspects of the Q&A simply weren't tolerated in the forums.] I'm not say the forums being active was a bed of roses - guilty of grouphthink and their were dingbats questions and answewrs, but the situation was (and is) much better there.

                    Alberto Brandolini:

                    The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

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                    • M Mycroft Holmes

                      Why can't Q&A do a pop over/under to google with the title of the question entered as the search criteria.

                      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                      DaveAuld
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                      Because the results set would be full of SO links :doh:

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                      • D DaveAuld

                        Because the results set would be full of SO links :doh:

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                        Mycroft Holmes
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                        It's grey I tell you NOT blonde!

                        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                        • T thatraja

                          _Maxxx_ wrote:

                          An offline article editor would be good

                          Agree with Dave, already there's an offline editor we have. But I still prefer VS or some other editor to write things in offline.

                          _Maxxx_ wrote:

                          Hey! Chris! You reading this? Remember about three years ago you said you'd get back to me

                          Surely he'll remember :laugh:

                          _Maxxx_ wrote:

                          Something in Q&A - I don't know what, but I just pretty much keep away these days - between the crappy questions and the snarky answers it's an unpleasant place to be!

                          Strongly Agree. Me too :sigh:

                          thatraja

                          Code converters | Education Needed | Improve EverythingNew

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                          Lost User
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                          thatraja wrote:

                          Strongly Agree. Me too :sigh:

                          made the mistake of going back today - and SAK once again ruined it for me.

                          PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                          • D DaveAuld

                            So with the sad demise of Workspaces and TV the question must be, "What next for CP?". What would you like to see added or investigated? A public API has been mentioned quite a few times over the last few years, so apart from that. For me: API - but I won't mention that A slicker article editor with basic image editing features. Q&A remodel ???

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                            Marc Clifton
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                            DaveAuld wrote:

                            So with the sad demise of Workspaces and TV the question must be,

                            Sad? I thought both were rather useless, and workspaces was certainly annoying. What I'd like to see is some improvements to the RSS feed. The "authors" field is blank, there's no way to distinguish between updates and new articles, nor articles vs. blog posts. I'll be mentioning that in the suggestions forum at some point. :) Marc

                            Natural Language Processing of RSS Feeds

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                            • M Marc Clifton

                              DaveAuld wrote:

                              So with the sad demise of Workspaces and TV the question must be,

                              Sad? I thought both were rather useless, and workspaces was certainly annoying. What I'd like to see is some improvements to the RSS feed. The "authors" field is blank, there's no way to distinguish between updates and new articles, nor articles vs. blog posts. I'll be mentioning that in the suggestions forum at some point. :) Marc

                              Natural Language Processing of RSS Feeds

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                              DaveAuld
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                              I suppose it is only sad if you used it and liked it, or if you were one of the devs that spent many hours developing it.

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                              • D DaveAuld

                                I suppose it is only sad if you used it and liked it, or if you were one of the devs that spent many hours developing it.

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                                Marc Clifton
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                                DaveAuld wrote:

                                I suppose it is only sad if you used it and liked it, or if you were one of the devs that spent many hours developing it.

                                Exactly, and I have great empathy for both users and those devs. It sucks when that happens. I do wonder why it didn't take off (though certainly I'm a contributor to the problem, as all of my recent articles have the source code hosted on GitHub.) Marc

                                Natural Language Processing of RSS Feeds

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                                • M Marc Clifton

                                  DaveAuld wrote:

                                  I suppose it is only sad if you used it and liked it, or if you were one of the devs that spent many hours developing it.

                                  Exactly, and I have great empathy for both users and those devs. It sucks when that happens. I do wonder why it didn't take off (though certainly I'm a contributor to the problem, as all of my recent articles have the source code hosted on GitHub.) Marc

                                  Natural Language Processing of RSS Feeds

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                                  DaveAuld
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                                  I'm still relatively new to github and was looking to potentially use workspaces for my private repositories and was actually looking at how you handle multiple repositories, but got distracted by other stuff so never followed through on actually starting to use workspaces. Glad I didn't now!

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                                  • D DaveAuld

                                    So with the sad demise of Workspaces and TV the question must be, "What next for CP?". What would you like to see added or investigated? A public API has been mentioned quite a few times over the last few years, so apart from that. For me: API - but I won't mention that A slicker article editor with basic image editing features. Q&A remodel ???

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                                    Maximilien
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                                    Buy StackOverflow.

                                    I'd rather be phishing!

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                                    • D DaveAuld

                                      So with the sad demise of Workspaces and TV the question must be, "What next for CP?". What would you like to see added or investigated? A public API has been mentioned quite a few times over the last few years, so apart from that. For me: API - but I won't mention that A slicker article editor with basic image editing features. Q&A remodel ???

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                                      Tim Carmichael
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                                      Rather than ask "What's next?", ask yourself this: Why do I use CodeProject? How would I like to use CodeProject? What do I not use on CodeProject? My answers: I use CodeProject to find solutions to issues I have; I frequently find what I am looking for in arcticles. The forums I frequent are VB and Database; where I can, I will assist. I would like to see a reputation system that is based on articles and coding forums only - I shouldn't be increasing my reputation by posting inane whatever in the Lounge or any other non-coding forum. I have tried to use QA, but gave up because of the incessant 'Help plz', and other such vitriol. Tim

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                                      • D DaveAuld

                                        So with the sad demise of Workspaces and TV the question must be, "What next for CP?". What would you like to see added or investigated? A public API has been mentioned quite a few times over the last few years, so apart from that. For me: API - but I won't mention that A slicker article editor with basic image editing features. Q&A remodel ???

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                                        Mike Hankey
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                                        I agree with those and will add; A better tablet interface. Maybe I'm not doing something I should be doing but when I first come to CP on my tablet everything is desktop size and I have to scroll all the way to the bottom to change to ?full site? I think is the button label.

                                        Have you ever just looked at someone and knew the wheel was turning but the hamster was dead? Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9.

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                                        • P Pete OHanlon

                                          One thing that would definitely help here is to expand the pool of people who can edit/move/remove messages. The pool is a lot greater in QA than it is in the forums.

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                                          Rage
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                                          I have proposed my humble contribution several times, but am still not wise enough for it :sigh:

                                          ~RaGE();

                                          I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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