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Ed Gadziemski

why not build ???? Please elaborate; I don't understand. Those willing to trade liberty for security deserve neither - Benjamin Franklin

Doug Goulden

Ed Gadziemski wrote: why not build Sorry head up butt disease, meant to say: Shame on you, serving must not have meant much. Implying that you don't really seem to take the idea of the US defending itself seriously. Was originally going to say something about you being constructive.... Amazingly English actually is my first (and only) language:-O Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

Ed Gadziemski

Well, I do take defense seriously. I'm of the Pat Buchanan school of thought, though. Bring our troops home, kick the H1B visaholders out, build a missle defense system, and be like a porcupine: Don't mess with anybody but have a hellacious defense system ready if someone messes with us. Those willing to trade liberty for security deserve neither - Benjamin Franklin

Doug Goulden

Ed Gadziemski wrote: kick the H1B visaholders out, build a missle defense system, and be like a porcupi I'm all for that, problem with bringing all of ours home is that I would rather fight the SOB's over there. I would rather kick the hell out of them at their place than wait for 'em to get close. I like the idea of the rats trying to hide in their hole when the Special Ops guys show up. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

Jason Henderson

I applaude you for serving 6 years, but did your service end the moment you were discharged? Why don't you support your country a little more. From the way you talk, I would think you were an anti-capitalist nazi.

Jason Henderson
"You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - Gandhi

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Jason Henderson

The guy defected and told us about a training camp where people are trained to hijack planes using an old plane. He tells us the location and we point a satellite at it. Viola! There's a plane there. Sounds like his story is corraborated.

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Chris Losinger

no, it isn't. corraboration would be a 2nd person independently giving the same story. i could claim that there's a guy down the street from me training terrorists to make bombs out of Triumph Spitfires. a satellite photo of the car lot wouldn't prove anything but that i knew where to find a vintage car dealer. -c

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Doug Goulden

No names, but I think that the guys mentioned here are probably laying pretty low http://www.intelmessages.org/Messages/National_Security/wwwboard/messages/832.html[^] Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

Jorgen Sigvardsson

Now you're just mean Jason. That attack was personal and not called for. :suss: -- Shine, enlighten me - shine Shine, awaken me - shine Shine for all your suffering - shine

Ed Gadziemski

FYI: I own a small business. It's my second. I'm a member of the Chamber of Commerce. I've run a non-profit community website where my business is located for the past 7 years. Just because I don't share your war fever for an ill-advised retribution against Iraq ("he tried to kill my daddy, boo-hoo") doesn't make me any less American. Those willing to trade liberty for security deserve neither - Benjamin Franklin

Chris Losinger

interesting, but sadly: "American officials confirmed that they had met with the former lieutenant general in Turkey but said they had not learned all that much from him. They said it was unlikely that the training on the fuselage was linked to the Sept. 11 hijackings in the US." that's what i want: a clear Saddam -> 9/11 link. until then, Saudi Arabia will stay higher on my list of countries we should invande. -c

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Jason Henderson

I'm sorry for calling you an idiot, but calling the US evil for dropping the a-bombs on Japan is crazy. That just ticked me off. You might be the greatest guy in the world but I think your ideas are crazy and dangerous. I don't have war fever, but I do support the war on terror and this president. Its not about retribution because there's no reason for retribution.

Jason Henderson
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Jason Henderson

I'm sorry for that. He did make me mad, but what I wrote was not necessary.

Jason Henderson
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Ed Gadziemski

I think your ideas are crazy and dangerous As an American veteran who was serving my country to protect your right to say that while you were still in diapers, I am just going to say thank you for sharing your opinion and I'll ask some of my religious friends to pray for your soul. Those willing to trade liberty for security deserve neither - Benjamin Franklin