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  • T Tim Carmichael

    And with that being said, understand then the frustration of people that have a belief system that DOES encourage thought, discussion and dialogue being continually lumped into 'religion'. If the adherants say, "It's not about religion" they are ridiculed further...

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    GuyThiebaut
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    As far as I am concerned as long as people hold themselves to the golden rule, as much as possible, I don't particularly care what set of beliefs they hold.

    “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

    ― Christopher Hitchens

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    • L Lost User

      Canny Brisk wrote:

      and one side is fast asleep they way I see it.

      Yea no, not so much. See UKIP, Wilders, Le Pen, etc Sure they're not winning yet, but it's not like they have no support.

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      Joezer BH
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      True, I'm aware of those and will lower the sleep from category 8 to 7 ;) There A LOT of waking up still to be done.

      -- The trouble with people,
      is that they want to hear only what they want to hear.

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      • S Super Lloyd

        You know I was wondering there is so much religion involved in war? I guess it's easy to make people angry with religion perhaps? And also it's a more powerful motivator than mere profit?

        My programming get away... The Blog... DirectX for WinRT/C# since 2013! Taking over the world since 1371!

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        realJSOP
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        Don't for a second think that relious wars aren't spurred on by the promise of profit.

        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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        • S Super Lloyd

          You know I was wondering there is so much religion involved in war? I guess it's easy to make people angry with religion perhaps? And also it's a more powerful motivator than mere profit?

          My programming get away... The Blog... DirectX for WinRT/C# since 2013! Taking over the world since 1371!

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          Rage
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          Super Lloyd wrote:

          I guess it's easy to make people angry with religion perhaps?

          That's completely wrong ! Stop writing nonsense about religion ! Religion DOES NOT make angry.

          ~RaGE();

          I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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            For future reference, you should consider following rule four[^] next time. These subjects tend to go out of hand sometimes.

            Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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            Rage
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            I thought the link pointed to the ten commandments.

            ~RaGE();

            I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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              Don't for a second think that relious wars aren't spurred on by the promise of profit.

              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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              When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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              JimmyRopes
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              Infidel. :-D

              **_Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.

              I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong._**
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              • O Oso Oluwafemi Ebenezer

                I am not against any religion! That been said, why are terrorist trying to create "Islamic Caliphate" all around the world, killing innocent souls in the process? Boko Haram of Nigeria just declared creating one yesterday. ISIS in the middle east too!

                Osofem Inc

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                JimmyRopes
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                Probably a subject better suited to be discussed in the Soapbox. :doh:

                **_Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.

                I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong._**
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                  Don't for a second think that relious wars aren't spurred on by the promise of profit.

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                  Slacker007
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                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                  spurred on by the promise of profit

                  Profit, or prophet?

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                    Probably a subject better suited to be discussed in the Soapbox. :doh:

                    **_Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.

                    I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong._**
                    The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
                    I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                    Slacker007
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                    I was waiting for someone to say this.

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                    • O Oso Oluwafemi Ebenezer

                      I am not against any religion! That been said, why are terrorist trying to create "Islamic Caliphate" all around the world, killing innocent souls in the process? Boko Haram of Nigeria just declared creating one yesterday. ISIS in the middle east too!

                      Osofem Inc

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                      Duncan Edwards Jones
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                      Imagine you and your immediate family owned a country that produced 11 million barrels of oil a day. Imagine you noticed that every time there was a terrorist news story the unit cost went up a few dollars. There is no need to invoke sky fairies. This is about greed.

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                      • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                        Wouldn't be the first time someone tried to take over the world.

                        The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                        MarkTJohnson
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                        He's right, These guys tried it every night.

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                        • S Super Lloyd

                          You know I was wondering there is so much religion involved in war? I guess it's easy to make people angry with religion perhaps? And also it's a more powerful motivator than mere profit?

                          My programming get away... The Blog... DirectX for WinRT/C# since 2013! Taking over the world since 1371!

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                          Lost User
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                          Bceause if god says it's ok, then it's ok I guess. Come to think of it, the morning agile scrum prayers could benefit from this concept too :)

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                            I thought the link pointed to the ten commandments.

                            ~RaGE();

                            I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                            Jorgen Andersson
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                            No, there are just seven of them, we apparently need to have a talk with Bob about that.

                            Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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                            • O Oso Oluwafemi Ebenezer

                              I am not against any religion! That been said, why are terrorist trying to create "Islamic Caliphate" all around the world, killing innocent souls in the process? Boko Haram of Nigeria just declared creating one yesterday. ISIS in the middle east too!

                              Osofem Inc

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                              jeron1
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                              Just guessing, but I think they are trying to better their odds of getting laid. Though if they just killed themselves apparently their odds go way up.

                              "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst

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                              • G GuyThiebaut

                                My question is more "what is religion?". My definition: religion appears to be a set of beliefs held by a large number of people usually based on some sort of faith in something that is not measurable, using the 'scientific method', and that generally contains ideas that are held as taboo to question within and about the particular religion. Given my definition, it seems fairly easy to then manipulate a large number of people to do something they would not do outside of this group/collective belief system.

                                “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                                ― Christopher Hitchens

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                                Amarnath S
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                                Being an Indian, I have been influenced by the sayings of a saint of India, called Swami Vivekananda, who visited the US back in 1893. He said "Religion is the manifestation of the divinity already in man. Religion is the idea which is raising the brute unto man, and man unto God". See here[^].

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                                • O Oso Oluwafemi Ebenezer

                                  I am not against any religion! That been said, why are terrorist trying to create "Islamic Caliphate" all around the world, killing innocent souls in the process? Boko Haram of Nigeria just declared creating one yesterday. ISIS in the middle east too!

                                  Osofem Inc

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                                  Ian Shlasko
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                                  It's just a meme. Ten years from now, it'll be as relevant as Rickrolls are today. Hey, there's an idea... Anyone tried Rickrolling those guys yet? Wouldn't it be hilarious if they tried to publish one of their videos, and someone intercepted and modified it so fifteen seconds in, it cut to that video we all know and love/loathe?

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                                    Super Lloyd wrote:

                                    I guess it's easy to make people angry with religion perhaps?

                                    That's completely wrong ! Stop writing nonsense about religion ! Religion DOES NOT make angry.

                                    ~RaGE();

                                    I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                                    Dave Kreskowiak
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                                    No, but it does give people an excuse to be angry over stupid things.

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                                      No, but it does give people an excuse to be angry over stupid things.

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                                      Rage
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                                      Joke. Mind the Joke Icon. It was actually a joke, meant to be funny. To be laughed at. A joke. Joke elaboration: Get angry about someone ranting about people getting angry. Similar joke examples: "I hate extremists, they should all be shot dead." or "Racism is just like niggers, shouldn't exist". [Edit] Oh, and did I mention it was a joke ? [/Edit]

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                                      I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                                        Joke. Mind the Joke Icon. It was actually a joke, meant to be funny. To be laughed at. A joke. Joke elaboration: Get angry about someone ranting about people getting angry. Similar joke examples: "I hate extremists, they should all be shot dead." or "Racism is just like niggers, shouldn't exist". [Edit] Oh, and did I mention it was a joke ? [/Edit]

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                                        I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                                        Dave Kreskowiak
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                                        Relax! I missed the joke icon.

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                                        • S Super Lloyd

                                          You know I was wondering there is so much religion involved in war? I guess it's easy to make people angry with religion perhaps? And also it's a more powerful motivator than mere profit?

                                          My programming get away... The Blog... DirectX for WinRT/C# since 2013! Taking over the world since 1371!

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                                          dbrenth
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                                          You know I was wondering there is so much religion involved in war?

                                          If you are going to get someone to die for your cause, you have to give them a reason. Promising them an "eternal reward" is just one means of doing that. Money could be another one, but after you get so many followers, the money pot runs dry quickly.

                                          Brent

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