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    I'd like to keep a list of countries I visited so I can see which parts of the world I haven't explored yet. So I found a nice website, traveltip.org[^] (other recommendations are welcome), which let's me check visited countries per world part. But what would qualify as "visited"? For example, I've been in Tunisia for a good four hours. I had a fast tour through the centre of Tunis and then I left. Have I really visited Tunisia? I pretty much did the same in Malta. Malta is very small though, so I guess you could say I've seen a good part of the country... I've been to Vatican City even shorter, but I've really seen everything a tourist can see! So that certainly counts as visited. I've also been in Avignon (France) for a day and I've travelled through the rest of France by bus (it was really just sitting in a bus), still I wouldn't say I've visited France. Should I have spent at least one night in a country to be able to say I have visited it? That would give troubles in case of Vatican City... And if all you do is sleep (maybe you're in transit) you also can't really call it a visit. Or maybe you should have visited at least x cities in a country (which again isn't possible in Vatican City)? I don't think problems get more first world than this and I realize it's up to me to say I've visited a country, but I was wondering what you guys think about it.

    It's an OO world.

    public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
    {
    public void DoWork()
    {
    throw new NotSupportedException();
    }
    }

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    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

      I'd like to keep a list of countries I visited so I can see which parts of the world I haven't explored yet. So I found a nice website, traveltip.org[^] (other recommendations are welcome), which let's me check visited countries per world part. But what would qualify as "visited"? For example, I've been in Tunisia for a good four hours. I had a fast tour through the centre of Tunis and then I left. Have I really visited Tunisia? I pretty much did the same in Malta. Malta is very small though, so I guess you could say I've seen a good part of the country... I've been to Vatican City even shorter, but I've really seen everything a tourist can see! So that certainly counts as visited. I've also been in Avignon (France) for a day and I've travelled through the rest of France by bus (it was really just sitting in a bus), still I wouldn't say I've visited France. Should I have spent at least one night in a country to be able to say I have visited it? That would give troubles in case of Vatican City... And if all you do is sleep (maybe you're in transit) you also can't really call it a visit. Or maybe you should have visited at least x cities in a country (which again isn't possible in Vatican City)? I don't think problems get more first world than this and I realize it's up to me to say I've visited a country, but I was wondering what you guys think about it.

      It's an OO world.

      public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
      {
      public void DoWork()
      {
      throw new NotSupportedException();
      }
      }

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      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

        I'd like to keep a list of countries I visited so I can see which parts of the world I haven't explored yet. So I found a nice website, traveltip.org[^] (other recommendations are welcome), which let's me check visited countries per world part. But what would qualify as "visited"? For example, I've been in Tunisia for a good four hours. I had a fast tour through the centre of Tunis and then I left. Have I really visited Tunisia? I pretty much did the same in Malta. Malta is very small though, so I guess you could say I've seen a good part of the country... I've been to Vatican City even shorter, but I've really seen everything a tourist can see! So that certainly counts as visited. I've also been in Avignon (France) for a day and I've travelled through the rest of France by bus (it was really just sitting in a bus), still I wouldn't say I've visited France. Should I have spent at least one night in a country to be able to say I have visited it? That would give troubles in case of Vatican City... And if all you do is sleep (maybe you're in transit) you also can't really call it a visit. Or maybe you should have visited at least x cities in a country (which again isn't possible in Vatican City)? I don't think problems get more first world than this and I realize it's up to me to say I've visited a country, but I was wondering what you guys think about it.

        It's an OO world.

        public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
        {
        public void DoWork()
        {
        throw new NotSupportedException();
        }
        }

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        Why not have a look at tripadvisor.com[^] You an plot on a map, place you have visited, or place you would plan to visit. And visiting, is somewhere you have physically been, whether a day trip or an overnight or longer stay. However, merely stopping at the airport to catch an interconnecting flight does not constitute a visit.

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        • D DaveAuld

          Why not have a look at tripadvisor.com[^] You an plot on a map, place you have visited, or place you would plan to visit. And visiting, is somewhere you have physically been, whether a day trip or an overnight or longer stay. However, merely stopping at the airport to catch an interconnecting flight does not constitute a visit.

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          DaveAuld wrote:

          And visiting, is somewhere you have physically been, whether a day trip or an overnight or longer stay. However, merely stopping at the airport to catch an interconnecting flight does not constitute a visit.

          That's what I was going to ask him? I've been to Hawaii 3 times refueling at the airport for an hour. I've also been to Alaska when I was 10 months old but have no idea how long we were there. I don't consider that a place I visited because I have no recollection of it.

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          • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

            I'd like to keep a list of countries I visited so I can see which parts of the world I haven't explored yet. So I found a nice website, traveltip.org[^] (other recommendations are welcome), which let's me check visited countries per world part. But what would qualify as "visited"? For example, I've been in Tunisia for a good four hours. I had a fast tour through the centre of Tunis and then I left. Have I really visited Tunisia? I pretty much did the same in Malta. Malta is very small though, so I guess you could say I've seen a good part of the country... I've been to Vatican City even shorter, but I've really seen everything a tourist can see! So that certainly counts as visited. I've also been in Avignon (France) for a day and I've travelled through the rest of France by bus (it was really just sitting in a bus), still I wouldn't say I've visited France. Should I have spent at least one night in a country to be able to say I have visited it? That would give troubles in case of Vatican City... And if all you do is sleep (maybe you're in transit) you also can't really call it a visit. Or maybe you should have visited at least x cities in a country (which again isn't possible in Vatican City)? I don't think problems get more first world than this and I realize it's up to me to say I've visited a country, but I was wondering what you guys think about it.

            It's an OO world.

            public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
            {
            public void DoWork()
            {
            throw new NotSupportedException();
            }
            }

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            Marc Koutzarov
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            Maybe you should model a Abstract Class for visits and then extend the properties as you go along

            Abstract Class visit() inherits visit
            dim long as decimal
            ldim at as decimal
            end class

            Class littleVisit() inherits visit
            dim HaveSlept as boolean
            end class

            Class littleBetterVisit() inherits visit
            dim HaveSleptWithGirl as boolean
            end class

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            • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

              I'd like to keep a list of countries I visited so I can see which parts of the world I haven't explored yet. So I found a nice website, traveltip.org[^] (other recommendations are welcome), which let's me check visited countries per world part. But what would qualify as "visited"? For example, I've been in Tunisia for a good four hours. I had a fast tour through the centre of Tunis and then I left. Have I really visited Tunisia? I pretty much did the same in Malta. Malta is very small though, so I guess you could say I've seen a good part of the country... I've been to Vatican City even shorter, but I've really seen everything a tourist can see! So that certainly counts as visited. I've also been in Avignon (France) for a day and I've travelled through the rest of France by bus (it was really just sitting in a bus), still I wouldn't say I've visited France. Should I have spent at least one night in a country to be able to say I have visited it? That would give troubles in case of Vatican City... And if all you do is sleep (maybe you're in transit) you also can't really call it a visit. Or maybe you should have visited at least x cities in a country (which again isn't possible in Vatican City)? I don't think problems get more first world than this and I realize it's up to me to say I've visited a country, but I was wondering what you guys think about it.

              It's an OO world.

              public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
              {
              public void DoWork()
              {
              throw new NotSupportedException();
              }
              }

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              I used to figure I hadn't visited a place unless I had got absolutely drunk-as-a-skunk there... I have to say the only exception to this was the UAE, where I entirely failed to find anything alcoholic at all, despite being there for several days. I visited a lot of other places though! :laugh:

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              • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                I'd like to keep a list of countries I visited so I can see which parts of the world I haven't explored yet. So I found a nice website, traveltip.org[^] (other recommendations are welcome), which let's me check visited countries per world part. But what would qualify as "visited"? For example, I've been in Tunisia for a good four hours. I had a fast tour through the centre of Tunis and then I left. Have I really visited Tunisia? I pretty much did the same in Malta. Malta is very small though, so I guess you could say I've seen a good part of the country... I've been to Vatican City even shorter, but I've really seen everything a tourist can see! So that certainly counts as visited. I've also been in Avignon (France) for a day and I've travelled through the rest of France by bus (it was really just sitting in a bus), still I wouldn't say I've visited France. Should I have spent at least one night in a country to be able to say I have visited it? That would give troubles in case of Vatican City... And if all you do is sleep (maybe you're in transit) you also can't really call it a visit. Or maybe you should have visited at least x cities in a country (which again isn't possible in Vatican City)? I don't think problems get more first world than this and I realize it's up to me to say I've visited a country, but I was wondering what you guys think about it.

                It's an OO world.

                public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                {
                public void DoWork()
                {
                throw new NotSupportedException();
                }
                }

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                Sander Rossel wrote:

                But what would qualify as "visited"?

                My answer is not KSS, but it would certainly be one measure of "visited." ;) Marc

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  I used to figure I hadn't visited a place unless I had got absolutely drunk-as-a-skunk there... I have to say the only exception to this was the UAE, where I entirely failed to find anything alcoholic at all, despite being there for several days. I visited a lot of other places though! :laugh:

                  You looking for sympathy? You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric (Page 1788, if it helps)

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                  Nagy Vilmos
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                  I spent some time in the UAE and never had a trouble getting a drink. Paying was a different matter; somewhere around £5 a tin back in '89

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                  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                    I'd like to keep a list of countries I visited so I can see which parts of the world I haven't explored yet. So I found a nice website, traveltip.org[^] (other recommendations are welcome), which let's me check visited countries per world part. But what would qualify as "visited"? For example, I've been in Tunisia for a good four hours. I had a fast tour through the centre of Tunis and then I left. Have I really visited Tunisia? I pretty much did the same in Malta. Malta is very small though, so I guess you could say I've seen a good part of the country... I've been to Vatican City even shorter, but I've really seen everything a tourist can see! So that certainly counts as visited. I've also been in Avignon (France) for a day and I've travelled through the rest of France by bus (it was really just sitting in a bus), still I wouldn't say I've visited France. Should I have spent at least one night in a country to be able to say I have visited it? That would give troubles in case of Vatican City... And if all you do is sleep (maybe you're in transit) you also can't really call it a visit. Or maybe you should have visited at least x cities in a country (which again isn't possible in Vatican City)? I don't think problems get more first world than this and I realize it's up to me to say I've visited a country, but I was wondering what you guys think about it.

                    It's an OO world.

                    public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                    {
                    public void DoWork()
                    {
                    throw new NotSupportedException();
                    }
                    }

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                    Nagy Vilmos
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                    #9

                    Going by overnight stays I've been to around 40, with another 10-12 just passing through.

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                    • M Marc Koutzarov

                      Maybe you should model a Abstract Class for visits and then extend the properties as you go along

                      Abstract Class visit() inherits visit
                      dim long as decimal
                      ldim at as decimal
                      end class

                      Class littleVisit() inherits visit
                      dim HaveSlept as boolean
                      end class

                      Class littleBetterVisit() inherits visit
                      dim HaveSleptWithGirl as boolean
                      end class

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                      Sander Rossel
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                      #10

                      Class BestVisitEver
                      Inherits Visit
                      Property HaveSleptWithGirlAndGotHerpesButCantRememberBecauseDrugsAndAlcoholWereInvolvedAlsoWheresMyWallet As Boolean
                      End Class

                      :laugh:

                      It's an OO world.

                      public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                      {
                      public void DoWork()
                      {
                      throw new NotSupportedException();
                      }
                      }

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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        I used to figure I hadn't visited a place unless I had got absolutely drunk-as-a-skunk there... I have to say the only exception to this was the UAE, where I entirely failed to find anything alcoholic at all, despite being there for several days. I visited a lot of other places though! :laugh:

                        You looking for sympathy? You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric (Page 1788, if it helps)

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                        Sander Rossel
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                        #11

                        The places you THINK you go when you're drunk don't count. I'm also pretty sure the toilet of your local pub doesn't count as a country ;p

                        It's an OO world.

                        public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                        {
                        public void DoWork()
                        {
                        throw new NotSupportedException();
                        }
                        }

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                        • D DaveAuld

                          Why not have a look at tripadvisor.com[^] You an plot on a map, place you have visited, or place you would plan to visit. And visiting, is somewhere you have physically been, whether a day trip or an overnight or longer stay. However, merely stopping at the airport to catch an interconnecting flight does not constitute a visit.

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                          Sander Rossel
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                          Thanks, I'll try tripadvisor. Looks good!

                          DaveAuld wrote:

                          merely stopping at the airport to catch an interconnecting flight does not constitute a visit.

                          I agree on that one completely.

                          It's an OO world.

                          public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                          {
                          public void DoWork()
                          {
                          throw new NotSupportedException();
                          }
                          }

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                          • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                            Class BestVisitEver
                            Inherits Visit
                            Property HaveSleptWithGirlAndGotHerpesButCantRememberBecauseDrugsAndAlcoholWereInvolvedAlsoWheresMyWallet As Boolean
                            End Class

                            :laugh:

                            It's an OO world.

                            public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                            {
                            public void DoWork()
                            {
                            throw new NotSupportedException();
                            }
                            }

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                            Rob Grainger
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                            Class BestVisitEver Inherits Visit Property HaveSleptWithGirlAndGotHerpesButCantRememberBecauseDrugsAndAlcoholWereInvolvedAlsoWheresMyWallet As Boolean End Class That means I've visited my home town ;-)

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                              Class BestVisitEver Inherits Visit Property HaveSleptWithGirlAndGotHerpesButCantRememberBecauseDrugsAndAlcoholWereInvolvedAlsoWheresMyWallet As Boolean End Class That means I've visited my home town ;-)

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                              Sander Rossel
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                              Rob Grainger wrote:

                              That means I've visited my home town

                              Most people have... Have you been drinking? ;p

                              It's an OO world.

                              public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                              {
                              public void DoWork()
                              {
                              throw new NotSupportedException();
                              }
                              }

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                              • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                Class BestVisitEver
                                Inherits Visit
                                Property HaveSleptWithGirlAndGotHerpesButCantRememberBecauseDrugsAndAlcoholWereInvolvedAlsoWheresMyWallet As Boolean
                                End Class

                                :laugh:

                                It's an OO world.

                                public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                                {
                                public void DoWork()
                                {
                                throw new NotSupportedException();
                                }
                                }

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                                ha ha ha ha ha Don't forget to overload the constructor Sub new if HaveSleptWithGirlAndGotHerpesButCantRememberBecauseDrugsAndAlcoholWereInvolvedAlsoWheresMyWallet= false then HaveSleptWithGirlAndGotHerpesButCantRememberBecauseDrugsAndAlcoholWereInvolvedAlsoWheresMyWallet=true end sub

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                                • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                  I'd like to keep a list of countries I visited so I can see which parts of the world I haven't explored yet. So I found a nice website, traveltip.org[^] (other recommendations are welcome), which let's me check visited countries per world part. But what would qualify as "visited"? For example, I've been in Tunisia for a good four hours. I had a fast tour through the centre of Tunis and then I left. Have I really visited Tunisia? I pretty much did the same in Malta. Malta is very small though, so I guess you could say I've seen a good part of the country... I've been to Vatican City even shorter, but I've really seen everything a tourist can see! So that certainly counts as visited. I've also been in Avignon (France) for a day and I've travelled through the rest of France by bus (it was really just sitting in a bus), still I wouldn't say I've visited France. Should I have spent at least one night in a country to be able to say I have visited it? That would give troubles in case of Vatican City... And if all you do is sleep (maybe you're in transit) you also can't really call it a visit. Or maybe you should have visited at least x cities in a country (which again isn't possible in Vatican City)? I don't think problems get more first world than this and I realize it's up to me to say I've visited a country, but I was wondering what you guys think about it.

                                  It's an OO world.

                                  public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                                  {
                                  public void DoWork()
                                  {
                                  throw new NotSupportedException();
                                  }
                                  }

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                                  Sander Rossel wrote:

                                  what you guys think about it

                                  I figure that I have visited a country if I am there long enough for the local authorities to brand me an "undesirable" and invite me to leave. Or, thrown out of the first bar, whichever comes first.

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                                  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                    Rob Grainger wrote:

                                    That means I've visited my home town

                                    Most people have... Have you been drinking? ;p

                                    It's an OO world.

                                    public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                                    {
                                    public void DoWork()
                                    {
                                    throw new NotSupportedException();
                                    }
                                    }

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                                    No, I was jokingly referring to the range of activities on offer. (Oddly, your "Most people have" line isn't too far off the mark, I live in Bath, UK, and it really is a fecking tourist trap. Biggest attraction in the UK outside London, but London is just slightly larger. Bad side is the council don't seem to get the idea that folk who live here may object to it being turned into an oversized museum (they've priced out most of the good venues and arts centres through exorbitant business rates, so the nightlife amongst other things are steadily dying out). Its probably great to visit for a day or two, as long as you don't expect anything with a passing resemblance to nightlife. My favourite example is the "Jane Austen Center" - the writer spent a few years living in Bath, but they were the most uncreative and unhappy years in her life. (Edited twice - once to correct a Freudian slip[^], and once to add a detail). (Edited again to add link)

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                                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                      I used to figure I hadn't visited a place unless I had got absolutely drunk-as-a-skunk there... I have to say the only exception to this was the UAE, where I entirely failed to find anything alcoholic at all, despite being there for several days. I visited a lot of other places though! :laugh:

                                      You looking for sympathy? You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric (Page 1788, if it helps)

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                                      You mean you haven't visited somewhere until you can't remember visiting there? (I wonder how many places I visited when I was younger)

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                                        Sander Rossel wrote:

                                        what you guys think about it

                                        I figure that I have visited a country if I am there long enough for the local authorities to brand me an "undesirable" and invite me to leave. Or, thrown out of the first bar, whichever comes first.

                                        You can lead a developer to CodeProject, but you can't make them think. The Theory of Gravity was invented for the sole purpose of distracting you from investigating the scientific fact that the Earth sucks.

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                                        Wes Aday wrote:

                                        the local authorities to brand me an "undesirable"

                                        We've had the pleasure of transferring to another plane in the USA (we went from Europe to South America). Even for that brief moment we stayed at the airport the local authorities made us feel so undesirable that our second trip to South America was a (fairly more expensive) direct flight :D

                                        It's an OO world.

                                        public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                                        {
                                        public void DoWork()
                                        {
                                        throw new NotSupportedException();
                                        }
                                        }

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                                        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                          Wes Aday wrote:

                                          the local authorities to brand me an "undesirable"

                                          We've had the pleasure of transferring to another plane in the USA (we went from Europe to South America). Even for that brief moment we stayed at the airport the local authorities made us feel so undesirable that our second trip to South America was a (fairly more expensive) direct flight :D

                                          It's an OO world.

                                          public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                                          {
                                          public void DoWork()
                                          {
                                          throw new NotSupportedException();
                                          }
                                          }

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                                          Sander Rossel wrote:

                                          local authorities made us feel so undesirable

                                          If it makes you feel any better, they treat US citizens the same way. I find it sort of ironic that mental giants that are not qualified for a McJob are somehow qualified to defend us from terrorists.

                                          You can lead a developer to CodeProject, but you can't make them think. The Theory of Gravity was invented for the sole purpose of distracting you from investigating the scientific fact that the Earth sucks.

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