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  • L Lost User

    It's a total waste of time and (British) money. If the Scottish Nationalists were serious they would have some credible answers to how they are actually going to manage a country that will have almost no revenue after independence. Unfortunately the argument is based on the premise that they are ruled by the (hated) English, and have no say in their own affairs, so it appeals to the "little Scotlander" mentality.

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    Didn't the English say the same thing about every country they occupied?

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      It's a total waste of time and (British) money. If the Scottish Nationalists were serious they would have some credible answers to how they are actually going to manage a country that will have almost no revenue after independence. Unfortunately the argument is based on the premise that they are ruled by the (hated) English, and have no say in their own affairs, so it appeals to the "little Scotlander" mentality.

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      Marc Koutzarov
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      You should see the situation more from an open source point of view. If nobody has the guts you end up with giants producing shitty products. BTW they have Scots Whiskey what else do you need ?

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      • L Lost User

        Didn't the English say the same thing about every country they occupied?

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        WiganLatics
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        Technically, it was the British (not the English) that occupied a quarter of the world. The Scottish have played a very significant role in the British military.

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        • L Lost User

          Didn't the English say the same thing about every country they occupied?

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          Nagy Vilmos
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          Psst, it was a union not an invasion. Also, if anyone was the usurper, it was the Scots taking over the English crown and not the t'other way. To be fair the vote should be in England & Wales to leave Scotland. ;P

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          • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

            Just saw in the news that there will be a voting on the 18th this month about the future of Scotland. All you Scotlanders here - what would you say? Yes or no?

            I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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            WiganLatics
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            It would be a fallacy according to what Alex Salmond wants. 1) He would share a currency with rUK, rather than having an independent currency. 2) He would re-enter the EU and cede power to a federalist Brussels. Doesn't sound very independent to me.

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            • M Marc Koutzarov

              You should see the situation more from an open source point of view. If nobody has the guts you end up with giants producing shitty products. BTW they have Scots Whiskey what else do you need ?

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              WiganLatics
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              I did here a good campaign slogan from a drunk Scotsman: 'You can keep our women, but we're having the whisky!'

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              • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                Just saw in the news that there will be a voting on the 18th this month about the future of Scotland. All you Scotlanders here - what would you say? Yes or no?

                I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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                Maximilien
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                This should be in the soapbox.... political topic.

                I'd rather be phishing!

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                • N Nagy Vilmos

                  Psst, it was a union not an invasion. Also, if anyone was the usurper, it was the Scots taking over the English crown and not the t'other way. To be fair the vote should be in England & Wales to leave Scotland. ;P

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                  Keith Barrow
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                  Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                  Psst, it was a union not an invasion.

                  I think the correct term you are looking for is purchase - at least of their parliament. Or bribe, bribe is closer. You'll note that, practically as soon as the Crowns were unified, the King'o'Scotland moved south of the border to dryer and less deep-fried climes.

                  Alberto Brandolini:

                  The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

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                  • L Lost User

                    Didn't the English say the same thing about every country they occupied?

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                    Keith Barrow
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                    You think the English occupied Scotland?

                    Alberto Brandolini:

                    The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

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                    • M Maximilien

                      This should be in the soapbox.... political topic.

                      I'd rather be phishing!

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                      WiganLatics
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                      Well maybe, but he might make it more of a Lounge question if he asks about whether the independent Scottish banks should upgrade from Fortran and Cobol. ;P

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                      • M Marc Koutzarov

                        You should see the situation more from an open source point of view. If nobody has the guts you end up with giants producing shitty products. BTW they have Scots Whiskey what else do you need ?

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                        Pete OHanlon
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                        Marc Koutzarov wrote:

                        BTW they have Scots Whiskey

                        No they don't. Unlike the Irish stuff, Scottish whisky does not have an e.

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                        • P Pete OHanlon

                          Marc Koutzarov wrote:

                          BTW they have Scots Whiskey

                          No they don't. Unlike the Irish stuff, Scottish whisky does not have an e.

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                          Marc Koutzarov
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                          How right can you be. :)

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                          • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                            Just saw in the news that there will be a voting on the 18th this month about the future of Scotland. All you Scotlanders here - what would you say? Yes or no?

                            I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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                            R Giskard Reventlov
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                            Big waste of time and taxpayers money though it would solve the West Lothian question once and for all.

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                            • W WiganLatics

                              It would be a fallacy according to what Alex Salmond wants. 1) He would share a currency with rUK, rather than having an independent currency. 2) He would re-enter the EU and cede power to a federalist Brussels. Doesn't sound very independent to me.

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                              Marc Koutzarov
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                              Now you get me thinking this is another yet to be successful european takeover.

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                                Well maybe, but he might make it more of a Lounge question if he asks about whether the independent Scottish banks should upgrade from Fortran and Cobol. ;P

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                                WiganLatics wrote:

                                Well maybe, but he might make it more of a Lounge question if he asks about whether the independent Scottish banks should upgrade from Fortran and Cobol

                                Lol lol lol

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                                • M Marc Koutzarov

                                  Now you get me thinking this is another yet to be successful european takeover.

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                                  WiganLatics
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                                  Shush they don't want you to know that yet ;P

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                                  • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                                    Just saw in the news that there will be a voting on the 18th this month about the future of Scotland. All you Scotlanders here - what would you say? Yes or no?

                                    I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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                                    Andrew Torrance
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                                    I hope that Scotland does not vote to leave the Union .But if they do vote yes then there is no way they can keep the pound . It is the same argument for the UK keeping out of the Euro , can't have Johnny Foreigner affecting the currency now can we .On a similar note Spain will object to them getting automatic entry into the EU in order to deter the Basques . Salmond can bleat all he wants about negotiations , but if Scotland do want independence then they ain't getting the pound and they ain't getting the Euro.

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                                      Big waste of time and taxpayers money though it would solve the West Lothian question once and for all.

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                                      The West Lothian question being: "Where the Elephant is West Lothian?" :laugh:

                                      You looking for sympathy? You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric (Page 1788, if it helps)

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                                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                        The West Lothian question being: "Where the Elephant is West Lothian?" :laugh:

                                        You looking for sympathy? You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric (Page 1788, if it helps)

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                                        Pete OHanlon
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                                        Go to East Lothian and turn left presumably ;)

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                                        • P Pete OHanlon

                                          Go to East Lothian and turn left presumably ;)

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                                          Richard Deeming
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                                          Only if you're approaching from the South. :rolleyes:


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