The history of Windows repeat?
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Tomz_KV wrote:
ot as positive as Windows 7
Windows 7 and Xp were almost identical. Win8 would also have had a great reception if it had been a clone of Win7. People demand new but do not like changes, that's it.
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People usually don't demand very much at all. Mickeysoft usually tries to tell everybody what they should demand so that they have a reason to release a new version.
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Remember the frustration created by Windows Vista? Windows 7 saved the day. The user experience of Windows 8 may not be as bad as Vista but is not as positive as Windows 7 either. Is Windows 9 going to save the day?
TOMZ_KV
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A little correction Win2000 was (is, still have to use certain things that don't work XP or later) Good it was the bug fixed Windows NT, ME was awful....
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great business model!!! :rolleyes:
I'd rather be phishing!
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What running around madly like a headless chicken with little or no idea of what it's going to do about the competition? No, you're probably right.
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It is a historic moment for Microsoft shifting from software to devices & services. Windows phone has not been doing well so far. Apple experienced the transition years ago and did well.
TOMZ_KV
I can see where they would want to: but they made the usual MS mistake of ignoring existing users. If they had run "devices" and "software" as separate divisions instead of trying to force incompatible environments together into one it could all have been very different. And probably a lot more successful.
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Interesting enough that Microsoft likes to change graphic interface drastically more than the functionality.
TOMZ_KV
Exactly; improvements to the underlying kernel and such should not require such a change in the Interface. I'd prefer the Windows 3 Interface on top of the current Operating System -- combining the two (OS and UI) is not a good idea (in my opinion).
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Exactly; improvements to the underlying kernel and such should not require such a change in the Interface. I'd prefer the Windows 3 Interface on top of the current Operating System -- combining the two (OS and UI) is not a good idea (in my opinion).
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People usually don't demand very much at all. Mickeysoft usually tries to tell everybody what they should demand so that they have a reason to release a new version.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
I hold an A-7 computer expert classification, Commodore. I'm well acquainted with Dr. Daystrom's theories and discoveries. The basic design of all our ship's computers are JavaScript. -
Remember the frustration created by Windows Vista? Windows 7 saved the day. The user experience of Windows 8 may not be as bad as Vista but is not as positive as Windows 7 either. Is Windows 9 going to save the day?
TOMZ_KV
Most arguments I read about 8 and people's wishes that 9 will somehow magically solve everything typically revolve around Metro and/or the Start screen. I'm using 8.1 on a first-gen Surface Pro--you can't get any more "native Win8" than that; this is the device MS designed from scratch for it. Yet I manage to use this device as my "daily driver", hooked up to my regular mouse/keyboard/three 1920x1200 monitors via a USB3 dock. So essentially I use it as if it was a regular PC. I don't spend my days with my arm extended to smear the screen with my greasy fingers. I don't use any Metro app, don't use the charms, and I've kept using the Windows 8 desktop like I've been doing for years now, which is, with all my everyday apps pinned to the taskbar or on the desktop itself. As such, I never see the much-maligned Start screen on 8 any more often than I did the Start menu on 7 and older versions. So what 9 is going to "fix", I don't know. People seem to be fixated on the return of the Start menu (I've had little use for it for years) and the fact that you'll be able to run Metro apps in windows (again, I'm not using any)...so...I'm not sure what I'm looking forward to in 9.
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Most arguments I read about 8 and people's wishes that 9 will somehow magically solve everything typically revolve around Metro and/or the Start screen. I'm using 8.1 on a first-gen Surface Pro--you can't get any more "native Win8" than that; this is the device MS designed from scratch for it. Yet I manage to use this device as my "daily driver", hooked up to my regular mouse/keyboard/three 1920x1200 monitors via a USB3 dock. So essentially I use it as if it was a regular PC. I don't spend my days with my arm extended to smear the screen with my greasy fingers. I don't use any Metro app, don't use the charms, and I've kept using the Windows 8 desktop like I've been doing for years now, which is, with all my everyday apps pinned to the taskbar or on the desktop itself. As such, I never see the much-maligned Start screen on 8 any more often than I did the Start menu on 7 and older versions. So what 9 is going to "fix", I don't know. People seem to be fixated on the return of the Start menu (I've had little use for it for years) and the fact that you'll be able to run Metro apps in windows (again, I'm not using any)...so...I'm not sure what I'm looking forward to in 9.
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Tomz_KV wrote:
"if you build it, they will come bend over".
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Remember the frustration created by Windows Vista? Windows 7 saved the day. The user experience of Windows 8 may not be as bad as Vista but is not as positive as Windows 7 either. Is Windows 9 going to save the day?
TOMZ_KV
Tomz_KV wrote:
Is Windows 9 going to save the day?
After looking at the screenshots I say absolutely not. Win9 still looks horrendous.
John
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I can see where they would want to: but they made the usual MS mistake of ignoring existing users. If they had run "devices" and "software" as separate divisions instead of trying to force incompatible environments together into one it could all have been very different. And probably a lot more successful.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Tomz_KV wrote:
Is Windows 9 going to save the day?
After looking at the screenshots I say absolutely not. Win9 still looks horrendous.
John
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It is a historic moment for Microsoft shifting from software to devices & services. Windows phone has not been doing well so far. Apple experienced the transition years ago and did well.
TOMZ_KV
Tomz_KV wrote:
Apple experienced the transition years ago and did well.
There were a couple important differences with Apple: 1. Apple was ALWAYS a hardware company. 2. Apple had hit rock bottom in sales, market share, profits...
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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Tomz_KV wrote:
Apple experienced the transition years ago and did well.
There were a couple important differences with Apple: 1. Apple was ALWAYS a hardware company. 2. Apple had hit rock bottom in sales, market share, profits...
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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Remember the frustration created by Windows Vista? Windows 7 saved the day. The user experience of Windows 8 may not be as bad as Vista but is not as positive as Windows 7 either. Is Windows 9 going to save the day?
TOMZ_KV
I like windows 8 - maybe because its reminiscent of 3.1, and these days anything that makes me feel young cant be bad!
Ger
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I like windows 8 - maybe because its reminiscent of 3.1, and these days anything that makes me feel young cant be bad!
Ger
