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The history of Windows repeat?

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  • P PIEBALDconsult

    Exactly; improvements to the underlying kernel and such should not require such a change in the Interface. I'd prefer the Windows 3 Interface on top of the current Operating System -- combining the two (OS and UI) is not a good idea (in my opinion).

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    Tomz_KV
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    PIEBALDconsult wrote:

    Exactly; improvements to the underlying kernel and such should not require such a change in the Interface.

    Everyone sees it but Microsoft. Hard to believe.

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    • L Lost User

      People usually don't demand very much at all. Mickeysoft usually tries to tell everybody what they should demand so that they have a reason to release a new version.

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      Microsoft: "if you build it, they will come".

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      • T Tomz_KV

        Remember the frustration created by Windows Vista? Windows 7 saved the day. The user experience of Windows 8 may not be as bad as Vista but is not as positive as Windows 7 either. Is Windows 9 going to save the day?

        TOMZ_KV

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        Most arguments I read about 8 and people's wishes that 9 will somehow magically solve everything typically revolve around Metro and/or the Start screen. I'm using 8.1 on a first-gen Surface Pro--you can't get any more "native Win8" than that; this is the device MS designed from scratch for it. Yet I manage to use this device as my "daily driver", hooked up to my regular mouse/keyboard/three 1920x1200 monitors via a USB3 dock. So essentially I use it as if it was a regular PC. I don't spend my days with my arm extended to smear the screen with my greasy fingers. I don't use any Metro app, don't use the charms, and I've kept using the Windows 8 desktop like I've been doing for years now, which is, with all my everyday apps pinned to the taskbar or on the desktop itself. As such, I never see the much-maligned Start screen on 8 any more often than I did the Start menu on 7 and older versions. So what 9 is going to "fix", I don't know. People seem to be fixated on the return of the Start menu (I've had little use for it for years) and the fact that you'll be able to run Metro apps in windows (again, I'm not using any)...so...I'm not sure what I'm looking forward to in 9.

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          Most arguments I read about 8 and people's wishes that 9 will somehow magically solve everything typically revolve around Metro and/or the Start screen. I'm using 8.1 on a first-gen Surface Pro--you can't get any more "native Win8" than that; this is the device MS designed from scratch for it. Yet I manage to use this device as my "daily driver", hooked up to my regular mouse/keyboard/three 1920x1200 monitors via a USB3 dock. So essentially I use it as if it was a regular PC. I don't spend my days with my arm extended to smear the screen with my greasy fingers. I don't use any Metro app, don't use the charms, and I've kept using the Windows 8 desktop like I've been doing for years now, which is, with all my everyday apps pinned to the taskbar or on the desktop itself. As such, I never see the much-maligned Start screen on 8 any more often than I did the Start menu on 7 and older versions. So what 9 is going to "fix", I don't know. People seem to be fixated on the return of the Start menu (I've had little use for it for years) and the fact that you'll be able to run Metro apps in windows (again, I'm not using any)...so...I'm not sure what I'm looking forward to in 9.

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          dandy72 wrote:

          so...I'm not sure what I'm looking forward to in 9

          Windows 7.9999999999 maybe? :)

          TOMZ_KV

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          • T Tomz_KV

            Microsoft: "if you build it, they will come".

            TOMZ_KV

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            PIEBALDconsult
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            Tomz_KV wrote:

            "if you build it, they will come bend over".

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            • T Tomz_KV

              Remember the frustration created by Windows Vista? Windows 7 saved the day. The user experience of Windows 8 may not be as bad as Vista but is not as positive as Windows 7 either. Is Windows 9 going to save the day?

              TOMZ_KV

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              John M Drescher
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              Tomz_KV wrote:

              Is Windows 9 going to save the day?

              After looking at the screenshots I say absolutely not. Win9 still looks horrendous.

              John

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                I can see where they would want to: but they made the usual MS mistake of ignoring existing users. If they had run "devices" and "software" as separate divisions instead of trying to force incompatible environments together into one it could all have been very different. And probably a lot more successful.

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                Tomz_KV
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                Microsoft was able to recover in the past. See how it goes this time with Windows 9.

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                • J John M Drescher

                  Tomz_KV wrote:

                  Is Windows 9 going to save the day?

                  After looking at the screenshots I say absolutely not. Win9 still looks horrendous.

                  John

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                  Tomz_KV
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                  The start menu appears to combine both Windows 7 & 8. Just by looking at this, it may have a chance.

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                  • T Tomz_KV

                    It is a historic moment for Microsoft shifting from software to devices & services. Windows phone has not been doing well so far. Apple experienced the transition years ago and did well.

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                    Lost User
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                    Tomz_KV wrote:

                    Apple experienced the transition years ago and did well.

                    There were a couple important differences with Apple: 1. Apple was ALWAYS a hardware company. 2. Apple had hit rock bottom in sales, market share, profits...

                    Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington

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                    • L Lost User

                      Tomz_KV wrote:

                      Apple experienced the transition years ago and did well.

                      There were a couple important differences with Apple: 1. Apple was ALWAYS a hardware company. 2. Apple had hit rock bottom in sales, market share, profits...

                      Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington

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                      Tomz_KV
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                      Good points. Microsoft is doing hardware now: Surface tablet & Windows phone. It is a question if Microsoft is able to catch up.

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                      • T Tomz_KV

                        Remember the frustration created by Windows Vista? Windows 7 saved the day. The user experience of Windows 8 may not be as bad as Vista but is not as positive as Windows 7 either. Is Windows 9 going to save the day?

                        TOMZ_KV

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                        Ger Hayden
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                        I like windows 8 - maybe because its reminiscent of 3.1, and these days anything that makes me feel young cant be bad!

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                        • G Ger Hayden

                          I like windows 8 - maybe because its reminiscent of 3.1, and these days anything that makes me feel young cant be bad!

                          Ger

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                          Tomz_KV
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                          Ger Hayden wrote:

                          makes me feel young cant be bad!

                          Never thought Win8 could be used this way, unexpected functionality.

                          TOMZ_KV

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