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  • K Kenneth Haugland

    Let me see.... Sh*te weather... Check Oil&Gas... At the moment, Check Education and low madness factor... Check (you must be warned, we are a bit weird :sigh: ) You should move to Norway :D

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    Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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    He's from Scotland you have nothing on the weird they have up there

    You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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      I am just pondering..... If it goes 'Yes' and it all goes horribly wrong, i'm gonna need an exit plan. (it could still go wrong with a 'no' as well depending on agreements). Requirements; A nice weather in the summer, snow in the winter + skiing on tap (say within an hour or so). Oil & Gas industry within region, preferably as not to have to do silly rotations like 4/4 Good education system, child friendly with no Extreme/bizarre cultural religious madness. e.g. woman can't drive etc. Thought about States/Canada/Oz/New Zealand/Qatar/UAE/Singapore/Cyprus.......Yes they all have their own oddities, but at least they are tolerable. Any thoughts?

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      Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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      Shetland, by all accounts if the votes a yes they are going to apply for separation from Scotland and they have a goodly chunk of the oil, fits all the other boxes except the good summer but you from Aberdeen should be used to that

      You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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      • B Bergholt Stuttley Johnson

        He's from Scotland you have nothing on the weird they have up there

        You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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        Kenneth Haugland
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        :laugh:

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        • K Kenneth Haugland

          :laugh:

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          Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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          giving me the silent treatment are you!

          You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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          • B Bergholt Stuttley Johnson

            Shetland, by all accounts if the votes a yes they are going to apply for separation from Scotland and they have a goodly chunk of the oil, fits all the other boxes except the good summer but you from Aberdeen should be used to that

            You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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            DaveAuld
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            Not a hope in hell I'm moving to Shetland! Permanent Force 10 wind blows across that place...... Don't you knock Aberdeen Summers, NE Scotland is surprising good due to geographical location in relation to the Grampian Mountains. Just look at the solar output chart for my roof: 4kwh system: http://monitoring.solaredge.com/solaredge-web/public?name=AberdeenDMA[^] Better than I thought it would be! :)

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            • D DaveAuld

              Not a hope in hell I'm moving to Shetland! Permanent Force 10 wind blows across that place...... Don't you knock Aberdeen Summers, NE Scotland is surprising good due to geographical location in relation to the Grampian Mountains. Just look at the solar output chart for my roof: 4kwh system: http://monitoring.solaredge.com/solaredge-web/public?name=AberdeenDMA[^] Better than I thought it would be! :)

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              Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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              eye but it feels mighty chilly with that wind blowing up your Trossocks

              You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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              • L Lost User

                RossMW wrote:

                What!!!! Sick of picking on your Tassie mates. Which eye have you got open now?

                Faarrrkkkk off, he's a misplaced Pom he is.

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                I may have been born a Pom, but, erm, well, it's like this, Guv'n'r

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                • D Dalek Dave

                  That would mean moving abroad if the polls are anything to go by.

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                  In a failed state, if the economics are anything to go by.

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                  The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

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                  • D DaveAuld

                    I am just pondering..... If it goes 'Yes' and it all goes horribly wrong, i'm gonna need an exit plan. (it could still go wrong with a 'no' as well depending on agreements). Requirements; A nice weather in the summer, snow in the winter + skiing on tap (say within an hour or so). Oil & Gas industry within region, preferably as not to have to do silly rotations like 4/4 Good education system, child friendly with no Extreme/bizarre cultural religious madness. e.g. woman can't drive etc. Thought about States/Canada/Oz/New Zealand/Qatar/UAE/Singapore/Cyprus.......Yes they all have their own oddities, but at least they are tolerable. Any thoughts?

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                    GenJerDan
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                    Romania But I'd advise against actually living in Ploiești.

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                    • D DaveAuld

                      I am just pondering..... If it goes 'Yes' and it all goes horribly wrong, i'm gonna need an exit plan. (it could still go wrong with a 'no' as well depending on agreements). Requirements; A nice weather in the summer, snow in the winter + skiing on tap (say within an hour or so). Oil & Gas industry within region, preferably as not to have to do silly rotations like 4/4 Good education system, child friendly with no Extreme/bizarre cultural religious madness. e.g. woman can't drive etc. Thought about States/Canada/Oz/New Zealand/Qatar/UAE/Singapore/Cyprus.......Yes they all have their own oddities, but at least they are tolerable. Any thoughts?

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                      PIEBALDconsult
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                      Obviously Southern California, fer shur, dude. :cool:

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                      • D DaveAuld

                        It wasn't my rig that was demobbed. It turns out that there was a discovery, it was announced a week later in the papers. But it was pretty much a non-event and the companies involved share prices barely fluttered. All the talk about the Clair field is down to people with short memories. I remember when the Clair was first built, that it was always stated to be a multi-phase field development plan. That field is simply moving into the 2nd development phase, and suspect the next one will be in about 10 years. West of Shetlands has lots of potential, but it is very hard to operate, heavy crudes, deep water (past the ridge) and harsh environment, the issue is cost. It doesn't matter how much oil is left, cost is the governing factor. North Sea is still declining at a rate quicker than it is being discovered/exploited. If you take my employer, in the North Sea we are recognized as being 'the' best in class. We have the lowest lifting cost/barrel and highest uptime efficiencies and generating large cash flow, yet the parent company are potentially looking at disposing off us to concentrate on US growth. We are just waiting to hear, but it is very quiet, and it doesn't just effect us, but ALL their international assets including Egypt/Oz/Canada. Jana Partners bought a $1B stake in July and are demanding a split/spin-off of the 'international assets' Add to this that, the industry is resource constrained, you cannot get competent experienced teams for either offshore or engineering, everyone is moving overseas. this means to get people you need to pay and this puts costs up massively. Companies will then withdraw investment and go and spend their money in more profitable regions. I keep hearing the 'yes' group saying 'we can do this, look at Ireland/Norway/Iceland/Sweden etc.etc.' and yes they have done it, but cost of living is frightening and these countries went through decades of pain. You then have to look at international markets / fighting Europe / The rise of the East. To stand and compete against this you need to have clout, UK has clout, Scotland on its own doesn't. There is too much from the heart and not from the head going on. It is possible to still be a proud patriotic Scotsman and still be a part of a union. At the end of the day though, that is just my personal opinion.

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                        chriselst
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                        My twitter has just started to get a few Yes voters asking for a retweet to a story saying that the discovery of massive new oil reserves is being suppressed by the media. People find it easy to believe that they are lied to by anyone in a position of authority these days, the media, the government. Why the Scots expect their own government to be any different is beyond me, it seems that they just want to be lied to and manipulated by Scottish people, except that it isn't just Scottish people who live in Scotland so all they'll end up with is a different set of rich, lying, manipulators in charge.

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                        • D DaveAuld

                          I am just pondering..... If it goes 'Yes' and it all goes horribly wrong, i'm gonna need an exit plan. (it could still go wrong with a 'no' as well depending on agreements). Requirements; A nice weather in the summer, snow in the winter + skiing on tap (say within an hour or so). Oil & Gas industry within region, preferably as not to have to do silly rotations like 4/4 Good education system, child friendly with no Extreme/bizarre cultural religious madness. e.g. woman can't drive etc. Thought about States/Canada/Oz/New Zealand/Qatar/UAE/Singapore/Cyprus.......Yes they all have their own oddities, but at least they are tolerable. Any thoughts?

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                          rnbergren
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                          other than the Skiing, I would say North Dakota, Winters though are horrible, 80mph winds and -30 normal daily high. Might check out Colorado/Wyoming, Working on some oil industry, Summers are spectacular and lots of skiing to be had.

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                          • D DaveAuld

                            I am just pondering..... If it goes 'Yes' and it all goes horribly wrong, i'm gonna need an exit plan. (it could still go wrong with a 'no' as well depending on agreements). Requirements; A nice weather in the summer, snow in the winter + skiing on tap (say within an hour or so). Oil & Gas industry within region, preferably as not to have to do silly rotations like 4/4 Good education system, child friendly with no Extreme/bizarre cultural religious madness. e.g. woman can't drive etc. Thought about States/Canada/Oz/New Zealand/Qatar/UAE/Singapore/Cyprus.......Yes they all have their own oddities, but at least they are tolerable. Any thoughts?

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                            RedDk
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                            My rotter'd be a bit melenky skorry and my tash all up on my gulliver if the steggywegs was being reduced to bog polly (in the oeconomic sense, that is) as it is in Daveauldland. But, "vote"! Vote? Who does that anymore. Dim's running Laputa anyway. I'm not wrong.

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                            • D DaveAuld

                              I am just pondering..... If it goes 'Yes' and it all goes horribly wrong, i'm gonna need an exit plan. (it could still go wrong with a 'no' as well depending on agreements). Requirements; A nice weather in the summer, snow in the winter + skiing on tap (say within an hour or so). Oil & Gas industry within region, preferably as not to have to do silly rotations like 4/4 Good education system, child friendly with no Extreme/bizarre cultural religious madness. e.g. woman can't drive etc. Thought about States/Canada/Oz/New Zealand/Qatar/UAE/Singapore/Cyprus.......Yes they all have their own oddities, but at least they are tolerable. Any thoughts?

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                              DaveAuld wrote:

                              Requirements; A nice weather in the summer, snow in the winter + skiing on tap (say within an hour or so). Oil & Gas industry within region, preferably as not to have to do silly rotations like 4/4 Good education system, child friendly with no Extreme/bizarre cultural religious madness. e.g. woman can't drive etc.

                              Well, you've just described Siberia, so you're not giving us many options.

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                              • D DaveAuld

                                I am just pondering..... If it goes 'Yes' and it all goes horribly wrong, i'm gonna need an exit plan. (it could still go wrong with a 'no' as well depending on agreements). Requirements; A nice weather in the summer, snow in the winter + skiing on tap (say within an hour or so). Oil & Gas industry within region, preferably as not to have to do silly rotations like 4/4 Good education system, child friendly with no Extreme/bizarre cultural religious madness. e.g. woman can't drive etc. Thought about States/Canada/Oz/New Zealand/Qatar/UAE/Singapore/Cyprus.......Yes they all have their own oddities, but at least they are tolerable. Any thoughts?

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                                Simon ORiordan from UK
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                                I've got an application in with Canada at the moment. They have some unemployment issues, but tech is okay. It's not as easy as you might think; there are points to be earned in age, language skills, length of education, close relatives living in Canada and you need a minimum amount of cash in the bank, but it's 'front door' unlike the US and there is no strict age limit unlike Australia and NZ. Personally I like Canada, I go on holidays whenever I can to letch, drink and attend music performances. Simultaneously. Good luck with the Zombies. :^)

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                                  DaveAuld wrote:

                                  Requirements;
                                  A nice weather in the summer, snow in the winter + skiing on tap (say within an hour or so).
                                  Oil & Gas industry within region, preferably as not to have to do silly rotations like 4/4
                                  Good education system, child friendly with no Extreme/bizarre cultural religious madness. e.g. woman can't drive etc.

                                  Oil and Gas i dunno but everything else: South Germany :) (Okay this year our summer wasn't that nice, but we also had like 36°C) We have plenty of snow, good education System, no religious madness and 80% of our women drive very good :cool:

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                                  Pardon me? No religious madness in (south) bavaria? Even the ruling party names itself a "christian party". Greets from Franconia. ;)

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                                    I am just pondering..... If it goes 'Yes' and it all goes horribly wrong, i'm gonna need an exit plan. (it could still go wrong with a 'no' as well depending on agreements). Requirements; A nice weather in the summer, snow in the winter + skiing on tap (say within an hour or so). Oil & Gas industry within region, preferably as not to have to do silly rotations like 4/4 Good education system, child friendly with no Extreme/bizarre cultural religious madness. e.g. woman can't drive etc. Thought about States/Canada/Oz/New Zealand/Qatar/UAE/Singapore/Cyprus.......Yes they all have their own oddities, but at least they are tolerable. Any thoughts?

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                                    Right now a couple of years I am taking advantage of French Riviera hospitality and I cannot complain. From your checklist it does not comply in one point only - Oil $ Gas, but then again what are the motives to keep that one? The regions is nice, I've been lucky to find English speaking job and that little amount of French you need for daily task I was able to learn. The problem with this region? Not that many job opportunities; full of tourists every summer and most of all French bureaucracy :P However, trade-off is in a form of climate and nature that outbalance these things a lot... With little bit of balancing and sacrificing other options could be also considered (except those already mentioned in the discussion): - Italian peninsula (though not sure how important English language is for you :-) ) - Barcelona - Malta - Hong-Kong - and as we all saw last winter, Sochi could be mentioned here too ;-)

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                                      Right now a couple of years I am taking advantage of French Riviera hospitality and I cannot complain. From your checklist it does not comply in one point only - Oil $ Gas, but then again what are the motives to keep that one? The regions is nice, I've been lucky to find English speaking job and that little amount of French you need for daily task I was able to learn. The problem with this region? Not that many job opportunities; full of tourists every summer and most of all French bureaucracy :P However, trade-off is in a form of climate and nature that outbalance these things a lot... With little bit of balancing and sacrificing other options could be also considered (except those already mentioned in the discussion): - Italian peninsula (though not sure how important English language is for you :-) ) - Barcelona - Malta - Hong-Kong - and as we all saw last winter, Sochi could be mentioned here too ;-)

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                                      Bajaja wrote:

                                      but then again what are the motives to keep that one?

                                      Quite simply Money.... Sooner we get 18th over and done with the better....

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                                        Pardon me? No religious madness in (south) bavaria? Even the ruling party names itself a "christian party". Greets from Franconia. ;)

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                                        There is more than Bavaria ... Baden Württemberg / blackforest? Currently we have around 24°C

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                                          I am just pondering..... If it goes 'Yes' and it all goes horribly wrong, i'm gonna need an exit plan. (it could still go wrong with a 'no' as well depending on agreements). Requirements; A nice weather in the summer, snow in the winter + skiing on tap (say within an hour or so). Oil & Gas industry within region, preferably as not to have to do silly rotations like 4/4 Good education system, child friendly with no Extreme/bizarre cultural religious madness. e.g. woman can't drive etc. Thought about States/Canada/Oz/New Zealand/Qatar/UAE/Singapore/Cyprus.......Yes they all have their own oddities, but at least they are tolerable. Any thoughts?

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                                          Life in the Canadian Maritimes is decent enough. We have a few skiing options within reasonable driving distance (though they're not big hills) - and better options if you don't mind driving a bit further and/or depending where in the Maritimes you are looking. Summer's are warm, but typically not hot. Oil & Gas in the region, good schools (at least in our area), mild cultural madness (all part of living in the maritimes), child friendly, etc. Cost of living is decent - salaries are typically not as high as major centers, but $300-400k will also buy you a really decent house so it all balances out. And in the case of a zombie apocalypse, Nova Scotia was one of the safe-zones mentioned at the end of World War Z :)

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