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where fiction is taught as fact and mythical beliefs override what academic scholars say.
We've always taught scientific theories in school. There's a reason theories are still theories, they aren't facts, at least not as far as we know.
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RyanDev wrote:
they aren't facts, at least not as far as we know.
You actually have that the wrong way around. A scientific theory is a fact as far as we know. In fact, that's a very good, succinct, definition of a scientific theory!
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RyanDev wrote:
they aren't facts, at least not as far as we know.
You actually have that the wrong way around. A scientific theory is a fact as far as we know. In fact, that's a very good, succinct, definition of a scientific theory!
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theory = fact? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Pretty much, yes, in a scientific sense. This is what you don't seem to grasp. wikipedia defines it thus:
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A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed through observation and experimentation.
So, it is a fact 'as far as we know'. The only reason we use the term 'theory' is that we are being realistic enough to see that there may be information available in the future that means a test/observation or experiment shows some flaw in the theory; at that point the theory is either thrown in teh bin or, more likely modified to take into account that new information - and so, to all intents and purposes, becomes fact. what part of this do you fail to understand - because I am sure it has been explained to you many times before
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Pretty much, yes, in a scientific sense. This is what you don't seem to grasp. wikipedia defines it thus:
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A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed through observation and experimentation.
So, it is a fact 'as far as we know'. The only reason we use the term 'theory' is that we are being realistic enough to see that there may be information available in the future that means a test/observation or experiment shows some flaw in the theory; at that point the theory is either thrown in teh bin or, more likely modified to take into account that new information - and so, to all intents and purposes, becomes fact. what part of this do you fail to understand - because I am sure it has been explained to you many times before
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what part of this do you fail to understand - because I am sure it has been explained to you many times before
Not a single bit of it. Have known this since I was a wee lad. Now, for the part you do not understand. Fact is truth. It doesn't change. :doh:
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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_Maxxx_ wrote:
what part of this do you fail to understand - because I am sure it has been explained to you many times before
Not a single bit of it. Have known this since I was a wee lad. Now, for the part you do not understand. Fact is truth. It doesn't change. :doh:
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
RyanDev wrote:
Now, for the part you do not understand. Fact is truth. It doesn't change. :doh:
so, if a fact is truth, and a scientific theory is a fact (as far as we know) then you are saying that a scientific theory is truth! Well Done! I knew we'd get there eventually.
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RyanDev wrote:
Now, for the part you do not understand. Fact is truth. It doesn't change. :doh:
so, if a fact is truth, and a scientific theory is a fact (as far as we know) then you are saying that a scientific theory is truth! Well Done! I knew we'd get there eventually.
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This one's not too bright Jimmy. :doh: So, using your example of smells transmitting disease, you are saying that 100 years ago it would have been a fact and today it is not a fact. Good thing you aren't trying to be serious because if you were.... well, ya.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Pretty much, yes, in a scientific sense. This is what you don't seem to grasp. wikipedia defines it thus:
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A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed through observation and experimentation.
So, it is a fact 'as far as we know'. The only reason we use the term 'theory' is that we are being realistic enough to see that there may be information available in the future that means a test/observation or experiment shows some flaw in the theory; at that point the theory is either thrown in teh bin or, more likely modified to take into account that new information - and so, to all intents and purposes, becomes fact. what part of this do you fail to understand - because I am sure it has been explained to you many times before
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not worth it - Ryan believes fossils were planted by some alien and all humans lived on another planet before deciding to pop down to Earth (I apologise unreservedly if I have misunderstood his previous posts). he argues that because you can't prove something to be untrue, it's reasonable to believe it Next he'll be saying that VB 6 is a great programming language and Silverlight is the way of the future!
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You are truly dumb to say such stupid things. :doh: Or, just an average troll. You decide. And you're a gay communist who believes tinfoil hats protect you from Martians so what value is your opinion anyway? You believe that all life began in Australia and that one day Australians will rule the whole world. Quite delusional are you.
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Check this[^]. The history is being re-written, thanks to Mr.Dinanath Batra, his qualification being an ace zealot.
The master of the art of living makes little distinction between his work and his play, his labor and his leisure, his mind and his body, his education and his recreation, his love and his religion. He hardly knows which is which; he simply pursues his vision of excellence in whatever he does, leaving others to decide whether he is working or playing. To him he is always doing both.
There was a note that Sex Education instruction was replaced with Yoga. Mmmmmmm . . . that just brings on fantasies . . .
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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You are truly dumb to say such stupid things. :doh: Or, just an average troll. You decide. And you're a gay communist who believes tinfoil hats protect you from Martians so what value is your opinion anyway? You believe that all life began in Australia and that one day Australians will rule the whole world. Quite delusional are you.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
RyanDev wrote:
You are truly dumb to say such stupid things.
I'm merely paraphrasing what I understood to be your beliefs - please correct me if I am wrong.
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you're a gay communist
Well, I am quite happy, and generally believe in the principal of Communism
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believes tinfoil hats protect you from Martians
i don't believe there are martians - and those aliens that are out there do not appear to be any sort of threat, so not protection required.
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what value is your opinion anyway
As valuable as any other, less valuable than some, more valuable than others.
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You believe that all life began in Australia
Don't be ridiculous! Australia wasn't even Australia when life began - and it began in the sea anyway, while most of what is now Australia was still above teh water.
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one day Australians will rule the whole world.
Just possibly.
RyanDev wrote:
Quite delusional are you.
Blimey! It's Yoda!
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This one's not too bright Jimmy. :doh: So, using your example of smells transmitting disease, you are saying that 100 years ago it would have been a fact and today it is not a fact. Good thing you aren't trying to be serious because if you were.... well, ya.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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RyanDev wrote:
You are truly dumb to say such stupid things.
I'm merely paraphrasing what I understood to be your beliefs - please correct me if I am wrong.
RyanDev wrote:
you're a gay communist
Well, I am quite happy, and generally believe in the principal of Communism
RyanDev wrote:
believes tinfoil hats protect you from Martians
i don't believe there are martians - and those aliens that are out there do not appear to be any sort of threat, so not protection required.
RyanDev wrote:
what value is your opinion anyway
As valuable as any other, less valuable than some, more valuable than others.
RyanDev wrote:
You believe that all life began in Australia
Don't be ridiculous! Australia wasn't even Australia when life began - and it began in the sea anyway, while most of what is now Australia was still above teh water.
RyanDev wrote:
one day Australians will rule the whole world.
Just possibly.
RyanDev wrote:
Quite delusional are you.
Blimey! It's Yoda!
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I seriously hope you are deliberately being stoopid for comedic effect!
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_Maxxx_ wrote:
Pretty much, yes, in a scientific sense.
Good job Max. You have personified my point. :thumbsup:
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There was a note that Sex Education instruction was replaced with Yoga. Mmmmmmm . . . that just brings on fantasies . . .
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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There was a note that Sex Education instruction was replaced with Yoga.
For some reason, I read that as "Yoda". :doh:
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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Ouch. That hurt. :love:
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You're the one who said facts change. :doh: I agree, that is stoopid.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
OK - just in case your IQ genuinely is as small as it appears to be: At any moment in time and space there are things that are known. With the knowledge available at that point in time and space, there are things that will be called facts, truths, whatever. At a different point in time and space those things will be "known" to be wrong in some way. Even were one to live until the end of time, the things that one "knew" would still not necessarily be universal 'facts' - which is the sort of fact you are waffling on about in your naive manner - but they would be thought of, and referred to, as fact. So yes, facts change. now, if you want to use a definition of the word 'fact' to mean a universal, unchanging absolute, then by definition, it cannot change - but that's simply arguing definitions of words.. My Google-fu tells me that a fact is
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a thing that is known or proved to be true.
well, both known and proved imply an observer, so any fact is interpreted by that observer, and so changing observers, or changing interpretations by the same observer would lead to a change in a fact. QED, old bean, QED
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OK - just in case your IQ genuinely is as small as it appears to be: At any moment in time and space there are things that are known. With the knowledge available at that point in time and space, there are things that will be called facts, truths, whatever. At a different point in time and space those things will be "known" to be wrong in some way. Even were one to live until the end of time, the things that one "knew" would still not necessarily be universal 'facts' - which is the sort of fact you are waffling on about in your naive manner - but they would be thought of, and referred to, as fact. So yes, facts change. now, if you want to use a definition of the word 'fact' to mean a universal, unchanging absolute, then by definition, it cannot change - but that's simply arguing definitions of words.. My Google-fu tells me that a fact is
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a thing that is known or proved to be true.
well, both known and proved imply an observer, so any fact is interpreted by that observer, and so changing observers, or changing interpretations by the same observer would lead to a change in a fact. QED, old bean, QED
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