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  • L Lost User

    RyanDev wrote:

    Now, for the part you do not understand. Fact is truth. It doesn't change. :doh:

    so, if a fact is truth, and a scientific theory is a fact (as far as we know) then you are saying that a scientific theory is truth! Well Done! I knew we'd get there eventually.

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    This one's not too bright Jimmy. :doh: So, using your example of smells transmitting disease, you are saying that 100 years ago it would have been a fact and today it is not a fact. Good thing you aren't trying to be serious because if you were.... well, ya.

    There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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      Pretty much, yes, in a scientific sense. This is what you don't seem to grasp. wikipedia defines it thus:

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      A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed through observation and experimentation.

      So, it is a fact 'as far as we know'. The only reason we use the term 'theory' is that we are being realistic enough to see that there may be information available in the future that means a test/observation or experiment shows some flaw in the theory; at that point the theory is either thrown in teh bin or, more likely modified to take into account that new information - and so, to all intents and purposes, becomes fact. what part of this do you fail to understand - because I am sure it has been explained to you many times before

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      _Maxxx_ wrote:

      Pretty much, yes, in a scientific sense.

      Good job Max. You have personified my point. :thumbsup:

      There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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        not worth it - Ryan believes fossils were planted by some alien and all humans lived on another planet before deciding to pop down to Earth (I apologise unreservedly if I have misunderstood his previous posts). he argues that because you can't prove something to be untrue, it's reasonable to believe it Next he'll be saying that VB 6 is a great programming language and Silverlight is the way of the future!

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        ZurdoDev
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        You are truly dumb to say such stupid things. :doh: Or, just an average troll. You decide. And you're a gay communist who believes tinfoil hats protect you from Martians so what value is your opinion anyway? You believe that all life began in Australia and that one day Australians will rule the whole world. Quite delusional are you.

        There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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          Check this[^]. The history is being re-written, thanks to Mr.Dinanath Batra, his qualification being an ace zealot.

          The master of the art of living makes little distinction between his work and his play, his labor and his leisure, his mind and his body, his education and his recreation, his love and his religion. He hardly knows which is which; he simply pursues his vision of excellence in whatever he does, leaving others to decide whether he is working or playing. To him he is always doing both.

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          There was a note that Sex Education instruction was replaced with Yoga. Mmmmmmm . . . that just brings on fantasies . . .

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          "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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          • Z ZurdoDev

            You are truly dumb to say such stupid things. :doh: Or, just an average troll. You decide. And you're a gay communist who believes tinfoil hats protect you from Martians so what value is your opinion anyway? You believe that all life began in Australia and that one day Australians will rule the whole world. Quite delusional are you.

            There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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            RyanDev wrote:

            You are truly dumb to say such stupid things.

            I'm merely paraphrasing what I understood to be your beliefs - please correct me if I am wrong.

            RyanDev wrote:

            you're a gay communist

            Well, I am quite happy, and generally believe in the principal of Communism

            RyanDev wrote:

            believes tinfoil hats protect you from Martians

            i don't believe there are martians - and those aliens that are out there do not appear to be any sort of threat, so not protection required.

            RyanDev wrote:

            what value is your opinion anyway

            As valuable as any other, less valuable than some, more valuable than others.

            RyanDev wrote:

            You believe that all life began in Australia

            Don't be ridiculous! Australia wasn't even Australia when life began - and it began in the sea anyway, while most of what is now Australia was still above teh water.

            RyanDev wrote:

            one day Australians will rule the whole world.

            Just possibly.

            RyanDev wrote:

            Quite delusional are you.

            Blimey! It's Yoda!

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              This one's not too bright Jimmy. :doh: So, using your example of smells transmitting disease, you are saying that 100 years ago it would have been a fact and today it is not a fact. Good thing you aren't trying to be serious because if you were.... well, ya.

              There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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              I seriously hope you are deliberately being stoopid for comedic effect!

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                RyanDev wrote:

                You are truly dumb to say such stupid things.

                I'm merely paraphrasing what I understood to be your beliefs - please correct me if I am wrong.

                RyanDev wrote:

                you're a gay communist

                Well, I am quite happy, and generally believe in the principal of Communism

                RyanDev wrote:

                believes tinfoil hats protect you from Martians

                i don't believe there are martians - and those aliens that are out there do not appear to be any sort of threat, so not protection required.

                RyanDev wrote:

                what value is your opinion anyway

                As valuable as any other, less valuable than some, more valuable than others.

                RyanDev wrote:

                You believe that all life began in Australia

                Don't be ridiculous! Australia wasn't even Australia when life began - and it began in the sea anyway, while most of what is now Australia was still above teh water.

                RyanDev wrote:

                one day Australians will rule the whole world.

                Just possibly.

                RyanDev wrote:

                Quite delusional are you.

                Blimey! It's Yoda!

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                ZurdoDev
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                _Maxxx_ wrote:

                please correct me if I am wrong.

                Correct, you're wrong.

                There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                  I seriously hope you are deliberately being stoopid for comedic effect!

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                  ZurdoDev
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                  You're the one who said facts change. :doh: I agree, that is stoopid.

                  There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                    _Maxxx_ wrote:

                    Pretty much, yes, in a scientific sense.

                    Good job Max. You have personified my point. :thumbsup:

                    There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                    fool

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                      fool

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                      ZurdoDev
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                      Ouch. That hurt. :love:

                      There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                      • W W Balboos GHB

                        There was a note that Sex Education instruction was replaced with Yoga. Mmmmmmm . . . that just brings on fantasies . . .

                        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                        "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                        W∴ Balboos wrote:

                        There was a note that Sex Education instruction was replaced with Yoga.

                        For some reason, I read that as "Yoda". :doh:


                        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                        • Z ZurdoDev

                          Ouch. That hurt. :love:

                          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                          i thought you were thicker skinned than that FTFM

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                            You're the one who said facts change. :doh: I agree, that is stoopid.

                            There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                            OK - just in case your IQ genuinely is as small as it appears to be: At any moment in time and space there are things that are known. With the knowledge available at that point in time and space, there are things that will be called facts, truths, whatever. At a different point in time and space those things will be "known" to be wrong in some way. Even were one to live until the end of time, the things that one "knew" would still not necessarily be universal 'facts' - which is the sort of fact you are waffling on about in your naive manner - but they would be thought of, and referred to, as fact. So yes, facts change. now, if you want to use a definition of the word 'fact' to mean a universal, unchanging absolute, then by definition, it cannot change - but that's simply arguing definitions of words.. My Google-fu tells me that a fact is

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                            a thing that is known or proved to be true.

                            well, both known and proved imply an observer, so any fact is interpreted by that observer, and so changing observers, or changing interpretations by the same observer would lead to a change in a fact. QED, old bean, QED

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                              i thought you were thicker skinned than that FTFM

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                              ZurdoDev
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                              _Maxxx_ wrote:

                              i thought you were thicker skinned than that

                              I do like chocolate. :-\

                              There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                OK - just in case your IQ genuinely is as small as it appears to be: At any moment in time and space there are things that are known. With the knowledge available at that point in time and space, there are things that will be called facts, truths, whatever. At a different point in time and space those things will be "known" to be wrong in some way. Even were one to live until the end of time, the things that one "knew" would still not necessarily be universal 'facts' - which is the sort of fact you are waffling on about in your naive manner - but they would be thought of, and referred to, as fact. So yes, facts change. now, if you want to use a definition of the word 'fact' to mean a universal, unchanging absolute, then by definition, it cannot change - but that's simply arguing definitions of words.. My Google-fu tells me that a fact is

                                Quote:

                                a thing that is known or proved to be true.

                                well, both known and proved imply an observer, so any fact is interpreted by that observer, and so changing observers, or changing interpretations by the same observer would lead to a change in a fact. QED, old bean, QED

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                                _Maxxx_ wrote:

                                So yes, facts change.

                                Only in a make-believe world.

                                There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                  _Maxxx_ wrote:

                                  So yes, facts change.

                                  Only in a make-believe world.

                                  There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                  RyanDev wrote:

                                  Only in a make-believe world.

                                  Well that should certainly suit you down tot he ground, shouldn't it?

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                                    RyanDev wrote:

                                    Only in a make-believe world.

                                    Well that should certainly suit you down tot he ground, shouldn't it?

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                                    ZurdoDev
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                                    _Maxxx_ wrote:

                                    Well that should certainly suit you down tot he ground, shouldn't it?

                                    I did like He Man when I was a kid.

                                    There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                    • S stib_markc

                                      Check this[^]. The history is being re-written, thanks to Mr.Dinanath Batra, his qualification being an ace zealot.

                                      The master of the art of living makes little distinction between his work and his play, his labor and his leisure, his mind and his body, his education and his recreation, his love and his religion. He hardly knows which is which; he simply pursues his vision of excellence in whatever he does, leaving others to decide whether he is working or playing. To him he is always doing both.

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                                      First be respectful, I take issues with the title Before you dismiss his claims as rubbish, I say just read the citations he has given. And have you read the book? The blog you refer exaggerates a few things so that they seem more hypothetical. And about Mahabharat, we can give you date, time, month, year, position of planets tc in precision. You can use software and verify yourself. And just visit Kurukhetra, if you want even more first hand experience. Vedas are no hypothetical. Just read the version by dayanand saraswati Another great example is "Vedic Mathematics" (ISBN:978-8120801646), There is just one part, rest could not be published due to his death. Vedas did contain advanced geometry and calculus, thousand of years before Euler, Newton and others. If I continue I won't stop. But before you speak, be sure you know the whole of the matter.

                                      Beauty cannot be defined by abscissas and ordinates; neither are circles and ellipses created by their geometrical formulas. Carl von Clausewitz Source

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                                      • W W Balboos GHB

                                        There was a note that Sex Education instruction was replaced with Yoga. Mmmmmmm . . . that just brings on fantasies . . .

                                        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                        "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                                        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                        W∴ Balboos wrote:

                                        There was a note that Sex Education instruction was replaced with Yoga.

                                        No it wasn't. And won't be. It was some howling old fags X| , who think all will learn on their own like they did, back in there times when there were no schools X| X| Religious fanatics saying contraception is murder and else. Hook up, get pregnant, coz that's God's gift! Yoga was included as physical activity (the right category) but not to replace sex education.

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                                          W∴ Balboos wrote:

                                          There was a note that Sex Education instruction was replaced with Yoga.

                                          No it wasn't. And won't be. It was some howling old fags X| , who think all will learn on their own like they did, back in there times when there were no schools X| X| Religious fanatics saying contraception is murder and else. Hook up, get pregnant, coz that's God's gift! Yoga was included as physical activity (the right category) but not to replace sex education.

                                          Beauty cannot be defined by abscissas and ordinates; neither are circles and ellipses created by their geometrical formulas. Carl von Clausewitz Source

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                                          W Balboos GHB
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                                          You need to get more in line with the context of things in The SoapBox (and The Lounge). The second part of the comment, about bringing on fantasies, should have tipped you off.

                                          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                          "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                                          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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