Hmmm, Do They really need that level of detail??
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As far as I am aware, Our parent company request photo drivers licence or Passport for new applicants so that thay can be certain that you are legally allowed to work in the UK.
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Hi All, I keep getting certain agents asking for some documents like passport, birth certificate, dental records before they will submit my application, as it standard practise...however most seem happy with a CV and my assurance that they will be supplied when needed. Is it me, or does the agent that needs them sound a bit 'odd' I think these particular documents could be used for ID theft?... Or am I being paranoid :confused:
Recruiters tend to be aggressive at getting early commitments (I usually give them outrageous salaries) I suspect the reason for asking for proof you are able to work is the number of candidates they have who are either not legally able to work or, in the US, have a sponsorship that perspective employers may not want to bother with. However, passport, birth certificate and medical records is absurd. For those, the answer is "go to hell."
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Hi All, I keep getting certain agents asking for some documents like passport, birth certificate, dental records before they will submit my application, as it standard practise...however most seem happy with a CV and my assurance that they will be supplied when needed. Is it me, or does the agent that needs them sound a bit 'odd' I think these particular documents could be used for ID theft?... Or am I being paranoid :confused:
A few years back when AT&T was hiring in the USA, their recruiters insisted that applicants provide a taxpayer ID as part of the application process (eg. before they've even seen your resume). Rumor was they had a list of previously laid-off ex-employees that they did not want hired back.
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Big Daddy Farang wrote:
Wouldn't there be a lot of people in the UK who don't have dental records?
Just because they don't have teeth doesn't mean they don't have dental records. :-D Perhaps in the UK you carry them with you. :^)
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They don't have any dental records for the same reason they don't have any teeth. They've never seen the inside of a dentists office. :doh:
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No, there is no reason why they should have that information. I had exactly that issue with an agent a few years back who promised me an interview within two days, and then started insisting they needed all sorts of irrelevant information. The interview (I don't believe there ever was one) disappeared into thin air very quickly. My last email to her told her in no uncertain terms that I did not like being lied to - never heard from them again.
Richard MacCutchan wrote:
I had exactly that issue with an agent ...
never heard from them again.Why do I think you're lying now?
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
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Hi All, I keep getting certain agents asking for some documents like passport, birth certificate, dental records before they will submit my application, as it standard practise...however most seem happy with a CV and my assurance that they will be supplied when needed. Is it me, or does the agent that needs them sound a bit 'odd' I think these particular documents could be used for ID theft?... Or am I being paranoid :confused:
No one but the hiring company has any reason or right to ask for that information. If the agent won't back down upon getting your assurance that such documents are available to the hiring authority, refuse to deal with that agent, and make sure his/her boss knows the reason why. You are not being paranoid!
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Hi All, I keep getting certain agents asking for some documents like passport, birth certificate, dental records before they will submit my application, as it standard practise...however most seem happy with a CV and my assurance that they will be supplied when needed. Is it me, or does the agent that needs them sound a bit 'odd' I think these particular documents could be used for ID theft?... Or am I being paranoid :confused:
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Ah, that makes more sense. (Besides I was trying to make a funny about dental records, seems some did not see it that way though...)
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Ah, that makes more sense. (Besides I was trying to make a funny about dental records, seems some did not see it that way though...)
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Hi All, I keep getting certain agents asking for some documents like passport, birth certificate, dental records before they will submit my application, as it standard practise...however most seem happy with a CV and my assurance that they will be supplied when needed. Is it me, or does the agent that needs them sound a bit 'odd' I think these particular documents could be used for ID theft?... Or am I being paranoid :confused:
I generally ask what levels of database and network security they employ, before providing such details. I recently had a very unpleasant exchange with an insurance company, which refused to pay out because I refused to supply them with private and confidential information which was completely irrelevant to the claim.
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chriselst wrote:
My wife
Thank you for referring to her that way instead of using "herself." I don't know why but it annoys me when people refer to their wife here as "herself." :mad: "Herself went to the store..." See, it is terrible. OK, I'm good. Carry on. :^)
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glennPattonPUB wrote:
I keep getting certain agents asking for some documents like passport, birth certificate, dental records before they will submit my application, as it standard practise
Creepy... Why would they want your dental records? Are they planning on faking your death? Because that sounds like a completely different industry.
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Richard MacCutchan wrote:
I had exactly that issue with an agent ...
never heard from them again.Why do I think you're lying now?
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
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My other half works for a recruitment company - as far as I know, to be compliant with their own processes, the identification/right to work documentation has to be with them before contract signing (not certain by whom, end client or contractor). I'll get further confirmation tonight. Whoever is asking may, of course, have different internal processes - and you could also be paranoid ;) Regards, Stewart
Checked - all they need is 2 pieces of photo identity & 1 proof of address, or 1 photo identity & 2 proofs of address, before the contract starts. They are also supposed to meet the person face-to-face as well, but they have ways round that. This is for compliance with NHS supplier status requirements. Regards, Stewart
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That's actually a great idea. I wonder why it never occurred to me. :thumbsup:
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Does he know that? :laugh:
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
He may need his dental records to be sure ;P
GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)
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What about "She who must be obeyed"
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I generally ask what levels of database and network security they employ, before providing such details. I recently had a very unpleasant exchange with an insurance company, which refused to pay out because I refused to supply them with private and confidential information which was completely irrelevant to the claim.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
Might do that...
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My wife has been working for her company for 8 years now, she has just had to provide proof she is allowed to work in the UK. She doesn't have a current passport (recently expired) so they said birth certificate and National Insurance card. I said they both prove that someone with her maiden name is allowed to work in the UK, but not her. They eventually worked this out too and accepted her expired passport as it was valid when she was employed by them.
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I seem to get away with showing my Freedom Pass (bus pass to non-Londoners). It has my name and a photo and an official looking number. Keeps them happy.
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glennPattonPUB wrote:
I keep getting certain agents asking for some documents like passport, birth certificate, dental records before they will submit my application, as it standard practise
Creepy... Why would they want your dental records? Are they planning on faking your death? Because that sounds like a completely different industry.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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