A tip for your tip
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So does that mean you have to carry a wad of cash around with you? Here most people have no cash on them, just a bit of plastic
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RossMW wrote:
as service personnel are paid adequately and not having to rely on tips for their income.
Here in the states, it is probably either greed or not getting paid adequately. However, when I tip, I don't consciously think about that. I tip purely on the level of service I received. I would like visit New Zealand someday; it is on my life's bucket list.
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Conversely, many French waiting staff get nothing unless customers leave tips.
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I guess it is culture thing. I personally feel one is paid to do the job. If he does it good, employer gives raise/promotion. I mean I do not expect the client to give me tips if I write some good code. Here in India, it is your choice. You want to give, you don't it does not matter.
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In the US if you don't leave at least 15% they chase you down the road asking for their money.
I found that very confusing. Table service is one thing, but if you go up to a bar and get a beer it seems you are still supposed to tip. I suppose some people are better at getting a bottle out the fridge than others. Hey have 15%!
Regards, Rob Philpott.
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As in tipping the service staff, be it at a hotel or at a restaurant. I am not a tight-wad with my money, so if you are busting your ass to make my stay at a hotel better, or my experience at a restaurant better, then you will get a nice tip. If the service was poor, then I will speak to the person or their manager about it, but I will still leave them a tip, just not as much as I normally would leave. I never understood why people don't tip, just out of principal. Side note: I recently learned that most establishments in Japan for instance, don't accept tips; its a cultural thing. Your thoughts on this?
Slacker007 wrote:
As in tipping the service staff, be it at a hotel or at a restaurant.
Wait people here get taxed at 15% of their food sales and make very little in wages so depend almost solely on tips so I tip well, ex used to be a hell of a wait person but if they don't do a good job I also don't leave them a good tip. In fact if they are piss poor I leave them a quarter which is an insult, but only had to do that a couple of times.
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If there is a service charge levied on the bill, I won't tip unless the service charge is removed.
I really dislike service charges. One of my favourite restaurants did that one day. The result - it completely lost its edge and the standard of service fell off a cliff. I think the British is general need to be pretty annoyed to ask to have the service charge removed.
Regards, Rob Philpott.
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What annoys me is London cabbies expecting a tip. You went via the longest, slowest route you could think of, and you expect me to pay you extra? Go Elephant yourself...
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That's because you were paying tourist rates! Popular myth - black cabs do not go long routes to top up their income. Getting you there as quickly as possible is what its all about, and on to the next job. Jesus, you even get a rant about Ken Livingston thrown in for free - what more do you want?
Regards, Rob Philpott.
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I really dislike service charges. One of my favourite restaurants did that one day. The result - it completely lost its edge and the standard of service fell off a cliff. I think the British is general need to be pretty annoyed to ask to have the service charge removed.
Regards, Rob Philpott.
Rob Philpott wrote:
I think the British is general need to be pretty annoyed to ask to have the service charge removed.
Are you kidding. I work myself right the way up to a disapproving tut.
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I found that very confusing. Table service is one thing, but if you go up to a bar and get a beer it seems you are still supposed to tip. I suppose some people are better at getting a bottle out the fridge than others. Hey have 15%!
Regards, Rob Philpott.
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In the US if you don't leave at least 15% they chase you down the road asking for their money.
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You can add the tip even when paying by plastic. Hey, we're quite go ahead up here in the northern hemisphere you know. ;P
Plastic? How quaint. You don't get NFC payments there yet? :laugh:
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As in tipping the service staff, be it at a hotel or at a restaurant. I am not a tight-wad with my money, so if you are busting your ass to make my stay at a hotel better, or my experience at a restaurant better, then you will get a nice tip. If the service was poor, then I will speak to the person or their manager about it, but I will still leave them a tip, just not as much as I normally would leave. I never understood why people don't tip, just out of principal. Side note: I recently learned that most establishments in Japan for instance, don't accept tips; its a cultural thing. Your thoughts on this?
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As someone mentioned above, it's just a culture thing. But I agree tipping bartenders seems a bit OTT.
Oh I dunno - when I did bar tending, I used to appreciate them! :laugh:
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I was told some years ago (by my French colleague), that tipping is no longer expected in France as service is included in the bill.
Richard MacCutchan wrote:
tipping is no longer expected in France as service is included in the bill
...If not in the actions of the waiting staff... :sigh:
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I was told some years ago (by my French colleague), that tipping is no longer expected in France as service is included in the bill.
Really? The clever b*st*rds never informed me!
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Really? The clever b*st*rds never informed me!
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
Not only cultural, also specific to a trade. When is the last time you closed IE and had the feeling that you needed to tip the programmer?
Agreed, and very good point. I failed to mention this point, in my original post.
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Oh I dunno - when I did bar tending, I used to appreciate them! :laugh:
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That makes me think of Felinfoel and Brains!
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As in tipping the service staff, be it at a hotel or at a restaurant. I am not a tight-wad with my money, so if you are busting your ass to make my stay at a hotel better, or my experience at a restaurant better, then you will get a nice tip. If the service was poor, then I will speak to the person or their manager about it, but I will still leave them a tip, just not as much as I normally would leave. I never understood why people don't tip, just out of principal. Side note: I recently learned that most establishments in Japan for instance, don't accept tips; its a cultural thing. Your thoughts on this?
While I have no specific issues with tipping for good service, it's annoying that it's expected (at least here in the US). But what REALLY gets me is that restaurants can pay less than minimum wage (which is itself a joke) because the server is expected to receive the additional earnings (which have to be reported to the IRS) in tips. The Federal minimum wage for non-tipped workers is $7.25, but for tipped workers is $2.13! (source[^]) It's yet another thing that pisses me off about government, business owners, and our so-called "market economy" system. And yet, we all (including me) don't do anything about it. Marc
