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  • L Lost User

    In the US if you don't leave at least 15% they chase you down the road asking for their money.

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    Lost User
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    Agreed. Our party were held at cleaver point edge at a restaurant in the US by the whole kitchen staff, until the person paying the bill explained why the tip he gave wasn't the correct amount.

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    • S Slacker007

      As in tipping the service staff, be it at a hotel or at a restaurant. I am not a tight-wad with my money, so if you are busting your ass to make my stay at a hotel better, or my experience at a restaurant better, then you will get a nice tip. If the service was poor, then I will speak to the person or their manager about it, but I will still leave them a tip, just not as much as I normally would leave. I never understood why people don't tip, just out of principal. Side note: I recently learned that most establishments in Japan for instance, don't accept tips; its a cultural thing. Your thoughts on this?

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      Not only cultural, also specific to a trade. When is the last time you closed IE and had the feeling that you needed to tip the programmer?

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      • L Lost User

        You can add the tip even when paying by plastic. Hey, we're quite go ahead up here in the northern hemisphere you know. ;P

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        Plastic? How quaint. You don't get NFC payments there yet? :laugh:

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        • L Lost User

          As someone mentioned above, it's just a culture thing. But I agree tipping bartenders seems a bit OTT.

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          Oh I dunno - when I did bar tending, I used to appreciate them! :laugh:

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          • L Lost User

            I was told some years ago (by my French colleague), that tipping is no longer expected in France as service is included in the bill.

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            Richard MacCutchan wrote:

            tipping is no longer expected in France as service is included in the bill

            ...If not in the actions of the waiting staff... :sigh:

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            • L Lost User

              I was told some years ago (by my French colleague), that tipping is no longer expected in France as service is included in the bill.

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              Mark_Wallace
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              Really? The clever b*st*rds never informed me!

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                Really? The clever b*st*rds never informed me!

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                You're a European, they thought you knew.

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                • L Lost User

                  Not only cultural, also specific to a trade. When is the last time you closed IE and had the feeling that you needed to tip the programmer?

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                  Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                  Not only cultural, also specific to a trade. When is the last time you closed IE and had the feeling that you needed to tip the programmer?

                  Agreed, and very good point. I failed to mention this point, in my original post.

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                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                    Oh I dunno - when I did bar tending, I used to appreciate them! :laugh:

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                    That makes me think of Felinfoel and Brains!

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                    • S Slacker007

                      As in tipping the service staff, be it at a hotel or at a restaurant. I am not a tight-wad with my money, so if you are busting your ass to make my stay at a hotel better, or my experience at a restaurant better, then you will get a nice tip. If the service was poor, then I will speak to the person or their manager about it, but I will still leave them a tip, just not as much as I normally would leave. I never understood why people don't tip, just out of principal. Side note: I recently learned that most establishments in Japan for instance, don't accept tips; its a cultural thing. Your thoughts on this?

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                      While I have no specific issues with tipping for good service, it's annoying that it's expected (at least here in the US). But what REALLY gets me is that restaurants can pay less than minimum wage (which is itself a joke) because the server is expected to receive the additional earnings (which have to be reported to the IRS) in tips. The Federal minimum wage for non-tipped workers is $7.25, but for tipped workers is $2.13! (source[^]) It's yet another thing that pisses me off about government, business owners, and our so-called "market economy" system. And yet, we all (including me) don't do anything about it. Marc

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                      • S Slacker007

                        As in tipping the service staff, be it at a hotel or at a restaurant. I am not a tight-wad with my money, so if you are busting your ass to make my stay at a hotel better, or my experience at a restaurant better, then you will get a nice tip. If the service was poor, then I will speak to the person or their manager about it, but I will still leave them a tip, just not as much as I normally would leave. I never understood why people don't tip, just out of principal. Side note: I recently learned that most establishments in Japan for instance, don't accept tips; its a cultural thing. Your thoughts on this?

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                        Slightly off-topic: This handy infographic shows a brief summary of the tipping etiquette of various countries.

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                        • R Rob Philpott

                          I found that very confusing. Table service is one thing, but if you go up to a bar and get a beer it seems you are still supposed to tip. I suppose some people are better at getting a bottle out the fridge than others. Hey have 15%!

                          Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                          PIEBALDconsult
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                          Bar staff get a dollar per round.

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                          • S Slacker007

                            As in tipping the service staff, be it at a hotel or at a restaurant. I am not a tight-wad with my money, so if you are busting your ass to make my stay at a hotel better, or my experience at a restaurant better, then you will get a nice tip. If the service was poor, then I will speak to the person or their manager about it, but I will still leave them a tip, just not as much as I normally would leave. I never understood why people don't tip, just out of principal. Side note: I recently learned that most establishments in Japan for instance, don't accept tips; its a cultural thing. Your thoughts on this?

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                            Nicolas Dorier
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                            The meaning of the tip is "I am so happy that you deserve more". It is an act of appreciation and respect, not for the person, but for his exceptional work. When tip is mandatory (like in Canada), then its purpose is corrupted. And so, Canada is no different than Japan. Since in both case you have no way to really show your respect for the work, and the waiter no way to get the feedback. (In Canada, except if you give more than the mandatory, which is already 10% of the bill) I like to have the choice to give, to keep intact the original purpose of my act.

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