Now I know why my brain works the way it does!
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Agreed. If you're going to slow your brain down, you might as well do a proper job of it.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Here's an idea! I will implement a memory repository something like Hogwarts Pensieve[^] (from Harry Potter movies). So when one needs to forget about an incident, he simply remembers that incident uttering a magical charm and voila! it gets added in the pensieve along with an indexer which maybe a small fragment of that incident which the person selects. While the incident gets added in the repository, it gets hard-deleted from the person's memory, but without a part of it which is used as an indexer. After this, a defragmentation service runs on the person's memory. So, when that person needs to relive that incident, he simply remembers the indexer and utters another magical charm and voila! he relives it! How's this? I think I am gonna be R-I-C-H!! :-\
Whether I think I can, or think I can't, I am always bloody right!
REEE--DIKULUS!
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Brains of older people are slow because they know so much. People do not decline mentally with age, it just takes them longer to recall facts because they have more information stored in their brains, scientists believe. Much like a computer struggles as the hard drive becomes more full, so humans also take longer to access information, it has been suggested. Researchers say this slowing down is not the same as cognitive decline. The human brain works slower in old age, said Dr.. Michael Ramscar, but only because we have stored more information over time. The brains of older people do not get weak. On the contrary, they simply know more, but just may not be able to access the information.. Also, older people often go to another room to get something and when they get there, they stand there wondering what they came for. It is NOT a memory problem, it is nature's way of making older people do more exercise.
New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0 Beta Have you ever just looked at someone and knew the wheel was turning but the hamster was dead? Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9. I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours!
Haven't any of these overpaid, overstuffed researchers ever read any Heinlein. In Methuselah's Children, Lazarus Long posed the same question to his much younger (and smarter) friend, Andrew Jackson "Slipstick" Libby, Andy explained it as simple as you like. We experience events linearly as time goes on, but our brains correlate each event with the accumulated total of all other events in a geometric fashion. Accumulation of experiences progresses linearly, but the storage required and effort needed to retrieve the memory and all its associated memories grows exponentially. Unfortunately, the book ended before Andy published a solution to the problem, which he claimed was definitely solvable.
Will Rogers never met me.
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Haven't any of these overpaid, overstuffed researchers ever read any Heinlein. In Methuselah's Children, Lazarus Long posed the same question to his much younger (and smarter) friend, Andrew Jackson "Slipstick" Libby, Andy explained it as simple as you like. We experience events linearly as time goes on, but our brains correlate each event with the accumulated total of all other events in a geometric fashion. Accumulation of experiences progresses linearly, but the storage required and effort needed to retrieve the memory and all its associated memories grows exponentially. Unfortunately, the book ended before Andy published a solution to the problem, which he claimed was definitely solvable.
Will Rogers never met me.
Another old codger who remembers the classics. Thanks, Roger :-D.
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Brains of older people are slow because they know so much. People do not decline mentally with age, it just takes them longer to recall facts because they have more information stored in their brains, scientists believe. Much like a computer struggles as the hard drive becomes more full, so humans also take longer to access information, it has been suggested. Researchers say this slowing down is not the same as cognitive decline. The human brain works slower in old age, said Dr.. Michael Ramscar, but only because we have stored more information over time. The brains of older people do not get weak. On the contrary, they simply know more, but just may not be able to access the information.. Also, older people often go to another room to get something and when they get there, they stand there wondering what they came for. It is NOT a memory problem, it is nature's way of making older people do more exercise.
New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0 Beta Have you ever just looked at someone and knew the wheel was turning but the hamster was dead? Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9. I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours!
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Brains of older people are slow because they know so much. People do not decline mentally with age, it just takes them longer to recall facts because they have more information stored in their brains, scientists believe. Much like a computer struggles as the hard drive becomes more full, so humans also take longer to access information, it has been suggested. Researchers say this slowing down is not the same as cognitive decline. The human brain works slower in old age, said Dr.. Michael Ramscar, but only because we have stored more information over time. The brains of older people do not get weak. On the contrary, they simply know more, but just may not be able to access the information.. Also, older people often go to another room to get something and when they get there, they stand there wondering what they came for. It is NOT a memory problem, it is nature's way of making older people do more exercise.
New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0 Beta Have you ever just looked at someone and knew the wheel was turning but the hamster was dead? Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9. I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours!
Balderdash! I take it this Ramscar chap is a social 'scientist' of some kind and not a neurologist because this is a perfect description of precisely how human memory doesn't work! Provided the structure and chemistry is not damaged in some way (Alzheimer's being the chief culprit these days) brains simply do not work slower at all. The notion that we have to sift through all the extra clutter to get to the good bit is just nonsense. There appears to be a reduction in cognitive performance with age but this is part self-fulfilling prophecy (how many times a week do you put cognitive errors down to getting old, having a senior moment, and so on?) and part simple misreading of the evidence. Completion of IQ tests do suggest that older people take longer reaching answers but attributing this to 'slowing of the brain' is almost certainly nonsense. The delay has much more to do with psychology than neurology. Age brings caution, responsibility, and (largely fuelled by that self-fulfilling prophecy) a greater involvement in testing oneself against norms. Older people simply care more and therefore take greater care in cognitive tests. Thus the slowdown is the result of self-checking and greater investment in protection against errors, not some weird, chaotic search through a memory attic stuffed with junk.
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Brains of older people are slow because they know so much. People do not decline mentally with age, it just takes them longer to recall facts because they have more information stored in their brains, scientists believe. Much like a computer struggles as the hard drive becomes more full, so humans also take longer to access information, it has been suggested. Researchers say this slowing down is not the same as cognitive decline. The human brain works slower in old age, said Dr.. Michael Ramscar, but only because we have stored more information over time. The brains of older people do not get weak. On the contrary, they simply know more, but just may not be able to access the information.. Also, older people often go to another room to get something and when they get there, they stand there wondering what they came for. It is NOT a memory problem, it is nature's way of making older people do more exercise.
New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0 Beta Have you ever just looked at someone and knew the wheel was turning but the hamster was dead? Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9. I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours!
Ageing causes changes to the brain size, vasculature, and cognition. The brain shrinks with increasing age and there are changes at all levels from molecules to morphology. Incidence of stroke, white matter lesions, and dementia also rise with age, as does level of memory impairment and there are changes in levels of neurotransmitters and hormones. :sigh: Conclusions: :-\ That the brain changes with increasing chronological age is clear, however, less clear is the rate of change, the biological age of the brain, and the processes involved. The brain changes that may affect cognition and behaviour occur at the levels of molecular ageing, intercellular and intracellular ageing, tissue ageing, and organ change. :confused: In Our language its means Memory Out of bound error :cool:
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Brains of older people are slow because they know so much. People do not decline mentally with age, it just takes them longer to recall facts because they have more information stored in their brains, scientists believe. Much like a computer struggles as the hard drive becomes more full, so humans also take longer to access information, it has been suggested. Researchers say this slowing down is not the same as cognitive decline. The human brain works slower in old age, said Dr.. Michael Ramscar, but only because we have stored more information over time. The brains of older people do not get weak. On the contrary, they simply know more, but just may not be able to access the information.. Also, older people often go to another room to get something and when they get there, they stand there wondering what they came for. It is NOT a memory problem, it is nature's way of making older people do more exercise.
New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0 Beta Have you ever just looked at someone and knew the wheel was turning but the hamster was dead? Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9. I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours!
Mike Hankey wrote:
it just takes them longer to recall facts because they have more information stored in their brains
There have been times when I have felt so overwhelmed with memories that I wish I could remove them and completely forget. I think the emotional memories are the most difficult to deal with, and I have a better understanding now of the expression that death would be welcome. I think it's something that few of the futurists/technologists understand, that at some point, you just want to turn off rather than keep living on and on, acquiring more and more memories. Emotional memories is also something that I don't think neurobiologists (or even psychologists) understand or appreciate, how crippling they can be, and we all do acquire them. While I know people that seem to live in a constant state of bliss, seemingly only remembering the positive emotional places, I for one am not one of those people and must consciously redirect my recollection of past events toward positive events to balance out the negative ones. Hmmm...that wandered a bit OT, what were we discussing? ;) Marc
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Mike Hankey wrote:
it just takes them longer to recall facts because they have more information stored in their brains
There have been times when I have felt so overwhelmed with memories that I wish I could remove them and completely forget. I think the emotional memories are the most difficult to deal with, and I have a better understanding now of the expression that death would be welcome. I think it's something that few of the futurists/technologists understand, that at some point, you just want to turn off rather than keep living on and on, acquiring more and more memories. Emotional memories is also something that I don't think neurobiologists (or even psychologists) understand or appreciate, how crippling they can be, and we all do acquire them. While I know people that seem to live in a constant state of bliss, seemingly only remembering the positive emotional places, I for one am not one of those people and must consciously redirect my recollection of past events toward positive events to balance out the negative ones. Hmmm...that wandered a bit OT, what were we discussing? ;) Marc
Marc Clifton wrote:
There have been times when I have felt so overwhelmed with memories that I wish I could remove them and completely forget. I think the emotional memories are the most difficult to deal with, and I have a better understanding now of the expression that death would be welcome.
Actually, that's exactly it. You remember the most what you have emotional ties to. That's why chicks remember EVERYTHING about a relationship, they're so emotionally invested into it. I used to be the same way man, way more emotional than a chick even, and the trick to getting over it is to just realize it's stupid to be emotional about most things in life. Grab your balls and laugh it off. Once it's no longer a big deal nature will take its course and you'll let it go naturally.
Jeremy Falcon
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Brains of older people are slow because they know so much. People do not decline mentally with age, it just takes them longer to recall facts because they have more information stored in their brains, scientists believe. Much like a computer struggles as the hard drive becomes more full, so humans also take longer to access information, it has been suggested. Researchers say this slowing down is not the same as cognitive decline. The human brain works slower in old age, said Dr.. Michael Ramscar, but only because we have stored more information over time. The brains of older people do not get weak. On the contrary, they simply know more, but just may not be able to access the information.. Also, older people often go to another room to get something and when they get there, they stand there wondering what they came for. It is NOT a memory problem, it is nature's way of making older people do more exercise.
New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0 Beta Have you ever just looked at someone and knew the wheel was turning but the hamster was dead? Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9. I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours!
Great, I can use that instead of "geezer moment"! I think that the wandering room-to-room thing is an "Out of Memory" problem while my background processes try to compact and free up by deleting useless information. Unfortunately, these processes are buggy as I swear my head is full of useless crap. I should switch to an Apple OS so everything gets dumped with every upgrade (useful or not!)
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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Haven't any of these overpaid, overstuffed researchers ever read any Heinlein. In Methuselah's Children, Lazarus Long posed the same question to his much younger (and smarter) friend, Andrew Jackson "Slipstick" Libby, Andy explained it as simple as you like. We experience events linearly as time goes on, but our brains correlate each event with the accumulated total of all other events in a geometric fashion. Accumulation of experiences progresses linearly, but the storage required and effort needed to retrieve the memory and all its associated memories grows exponentially. Unfortunately, the book ended before Andy published a solution to the problem, which he claimed was definitely solvable.
Will Rogers never met me.
Roger Wright wrote:
Accumulation of experiences progresses linearly, but the storage required and effort needed to retrieve the memory and all its associated memories grows exponentially.
Which is why our brains do compression -- they find memories with a common pattern and condense them.. sort of like doing a Lempel-Ziv pass. Oh, and it runs while you sleep.
d@nish wrote:
We need indexing service
Its so good, you don't even realize it's there.. just ask a friend who's had a major seizure or amnesia. Sometimes one of the indexes gets partially lost and chunks of memory become inaccessible until they're reconnected via access through another index.
We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.
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Great, I can use that instead of "geezer moment"! I think that the wandering room-to-room thing is an "Out of Memory" problem while my background processes try to compact and free up by deleting useless information. Unfortunately, these processes are buggy as I swear my head is full of useless crap. I should switch to an Apple OS so everything gets dumped with every upgrade (useful or not!)
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
PhilLenoir wrote:
I think that the wandering room-to-room thing is an "Out of Memory" problem while my background processes try to compact and free up by deleting useless information. Unfortunately, these processes are buggy as I swear my head is full of useless crap. I should switch to an Apple OS so everything gets dumped with every upgrade (useful or not!)
Garbage Collection? :)
New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0 Beta Have you ever just looked at someone and knew the wheel was turning but the hamster was dead? Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9. I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours!
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PhilLenoir wrote:
I think that the wandering room-to-room thing is an "Out of Memory" problem while my background processes try to compact and free up by deleting useless information. Unfortunately, these processes are buggy as I swear my head is full of useless crap. I should switch to an Apple OS so everything gets dumped with every upgrade (useful or not!)
Garbage Collection? :)
New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0 Beta Have you ever just looked at someone and knew the wheel was turning but the hamster was dead? Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9. I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours!
Sorry, I couldn't remember what it was called! :P
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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Mike Hankey wrote:
it just takes them longer to recall facts because they have more information stored in their brains
There have been times when I have felt so overwhelmed with memories that I wish I could remove them and completely forget. I think the emotional memories are the most difficult to deal with, and I have a better understanding now of the expression that death would be welcome. I think it's something that few of the futurists/technologists understand, that at some point, you just want to turn off rather than keep living on and on, acquiring more and more memories. Emotional memories is also something that I don't think neurobiologists (or even psychologists) understand or appreciate, how crippling they can be, and we all do acquire them. While I know people that seem to live in a constant state of bliss, seemingly only remembering the positive emotional places, I for one am not one of those people and must consciously redirect my recollection of past events toward positive events to balance out the negative ones. Hmmm...that wandered a bit OT, what were we discussing? ;) Marc
I'm with you death is more welcome the older I get. I've had a long hard life, I've lived it to the fullest but there is a lot of bad stuff that has happened to me and depression is an unwelcome part of my life. There are times when I've said that I've had enough but something has driven me to go on.
New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0 Beta Have you ever just looked at someone and knew the wheel was turning but the hamster was dead? Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9. I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours!
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Brains of older people are slow because they know so much. People do not decline mentally with age, it just takes them longer to recall facts because they have more information stored in their brains, scientists believe. Much like a computer struggles as the hard drive becomes more full, so humans also take longer to access information, it has been suggested. Researchers say this slowing down is not the same as cognitive decline. The human brain works slower in old age, said Dr.. Michael Ramscar, but only because we have stored more information over time. The brains of older people do not get weak. On the contrary, they simply know more, but just may not be able to access the information.. Also, older people often go to another room to get something and when they get there, they stand there wondering what they came for. It is NOT a memory problem, it is nature's way of making older people do more exercise.
New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0 Beta Have you ever just looked at someone and knew the wheel was turning but the hamster was dead? Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9. I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours!
As I've gotten older, my short term memory has suffered. However, my ability to not give a shit has increased.
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As I've gotten older, my short term memory has suffered. However, my ability to not give a shit has increased.
Joe Woodbury wrote:
As I've gotten older, my short term memory has suffered. However, my ability to not give a sh*t has increased.
Some call it apathy I call it sorting out what's important and what's not.
New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0 Beta Have you ever just looked at someone and knew the wheel was turning but the hamster was dead? Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9. I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours!
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Brains of older people are slow because they know so much. People do not decline mentally with age, it just takes them longer to recall facts because they have more information stored in their brains, scientists believe. Much like a computer struggles as the hard drive becomes more full, so humans also take longer to access information, it has been suggested. Researchers say this slowing down is not the same as cognitive decline. The human brain works slower in old age, said Dr.. Michael Ramscar, but only because we have stored more information over time. The brains of older people do not get weak. On the contrary, they simply know more, but just may not be able to access the information.. Also, older people often go to another room to get something and when they get there, they stand there wondering what they came for. It is NOT a memory problem, it is nature's way of making older people do more exercise.
New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0 Beta Have you ever just looked at someone and knew the wheel was turning but the hamster was dead? Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9. I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours!
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Haven't any of these overpaid, overstuffed researchers ever read any Heinlein. In Methuselah's Children, Lazarus Long posed the same question to his much younger (and smarter) friend, Andrew Jackson "Slipstick" Libby, Andy explained it as simple as you like. We experience events linearly as time goes on, but our brains correlate each event with the accumulated total of all other events in a geometric fashion. Accumulation of experiences progresses linearly, but the storage required and effort needed to retrieve the memory and all its associated memories grows exponentially. Unfortunately, the book ended before Andy published a solution to the problem, which he claimed was definitely solvable.
Will Rogers never met me.
Didn't Lazarus mention something in a subsequent story, maybe "Time Enough for Love," that he was using a method of tiering his memories. I wonder how someone consciously does that and how you master the technique.
I'm not a programmer but I play one at the office
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Shades of Johnny Mnemonic. So, do I need to dump the old storage to free up cache for the more frequently accessed data or do I need to buy some auxiliary memory for offloading?
I'm not a programmer but I play one at the office
I've heard an SSD is fast and larger sizes are introduced regularly! :)
New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0 Beta Have you ever just looked at someone and knew the wheel was turning but the hamster was dead? Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9. I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours!
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Brains of older people are slow because they know so much. People do not decline mentally with age, it just takes them longer to recall facts because they have more information stored in their brains, scientists believe. Much like a computer struggles as the hard drive becomes more full, so humans also take longer to access information, it has been suggested. Researchers say this slowing down is not the same as cognitive decline. The human brain works slower in old age, said Dr.. Michael Ramscar, but only because we have stored more information over time. The brains of older people do not get weak. On the contrary, they simply know more, but just may not be able to access the information.. Also, older people often go to another room to get something and when they get there, they stand there wondering what they came for. It is NOT a memory problem, it is nature's way of making older people do more exercise.
New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0 Beta Have you ever just looked at someone and knew the wheel was turning but the hamster was dead? Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9. I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours!