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  • T Tim Carmichael

    Got up today, read my e-mail, browsed some news site. The computer didn't crash, there were no apparent issues. All of this while using Windows 8. So, until such time as I can find the time to write my own operating system and browser, I will continue to use what I have - Windows 8. And griping about what I don't like is wasted breath... so, I shant.

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    Jeremy Falcon
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    Tim Carmichael wrote:

    And griping about what I don't like is wasted breath... so, I shant.

    :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

    Jeremy Falcon

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    • T Tim Carmichael

      When you consider the amount of vitriol that is normally spewed into the lounge, generally aimed at Microsoft by developers that purportedly use Microsoft products, I make a conscious decision to post a postitive comment in the hopes that it would somewhat alter the balance. Or, at least give people pause to think... One simple act may not change the world, but it can change someones world.

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      Jeremy Falcon
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      I like your style man. And it's true, there's just no sense in complaining your life away. That's no fun.

      Jeremy Falcon

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      • M Marc Clifton

        Tim Carmichael wrote:

        Got up today, read my e-mail, browsed some news site.

        Yes, but did you try to do anything productive while using W8? ;) Marc

        Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Higher Order Programming

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        Lost User
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        I managed to do all that without even touching a device. Granted they weren't my emails I was reading as I walked through our office looking at various people's screens, but I did catch a broad range of news from IS in the middle east to cures for thrush :laugh:

        How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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        • T Tim Carmichael

          Got up today, read my e-mail, browsed some news site. The computer didn't crash, there were no apparent issues. All of this while using Windows 8. So, until such time as I can find the time to write my own operating system and browser, I will continue to use what I have - Windows 8. And griping about what I don't like is wasted breath... so, I shant.

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          Simon ORiordan from UK
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          Last week I bought a lovely new Pavilion 15; I didn't complain either. I had it blatted to Ubuntu 14.04 within the half hour. This morning I Facebooked, read the online papers(the free ones, obviously), wrote a humorous Python script in Idle(the free Python interpreter), using Python 3.4(pre installed), to amuse my pals in the US when they wake up while I'm at work here in the UK. Last night I used a (free) IRC client to catch up with some people from RedHat who were willing to help me with a (free) virtualisation solution at work, and the night before I rebuilt my Windows-compatible .NET projects using (free) MonoDevelop and got them working on my Ubuntu desktop in 15 minutes flat. All while listening to music from (free) Rhythmbox. To paraphrase Crocodile Dundee, "Windows; you can live on it, but it tastes like sh!t".

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          • T Tim Carmichael

            Got up today, read my e-mail, browsed some news site. The computer didn't crash, there were no apparent issues. All of this while using Windows 8. So, until such time as I can find the time to write my own operating system and browser, I will continue to use what I have - Windows 8. And griping about what I don't like is wasted breath... so, I shant.

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            Plamen Dragiyski
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            While you are there, I give insight from the other side. My Linux mint (only) based laptop is the only working computer (for now) that I currently have. And I'm not working now, I am taking a huge holiday (as an unemployed) so it is time to play some games. What Linux has for good graphics games - OpenGL: it is open, it is great, it is highly unused. Most of the titles are not ported to Linux, so be happy with your Windows and its DirectX technology. The Linux computer is only usable to work and nothing else but work.

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            • S Simon ORiordan from UK

              Last week I bought a lovely new Pavilion 15; I didn't complain either. I had it blatted to Ubuntu 14.04 within the half hour. This morning I Facebooked, read the online papers(the free ones, obviously), wrote a humorous Python script in Idle(the free Python interpreter), using Python 3.4(pre installed), to amuse my pals in the US when they wake up while I'm at work here in the UK. Last night I used a (free) IRC client to catch up with some people from RedHat who were willing to help me with a (free) virtualisation solution at work, and the night before I rebuilt my Windows-compatible .NET projects using (free) MonoDevelop and got them working on my Ubuntu desktop in 15 minutes flat. All while listening to music from (free) Rhythmbox. To paraphrase Crocodile Dundee, "Windows; you can live on it, but it tastes like sh!t".

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              ColborneGreg
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              Signed up to be a Microsoft developer for free Received every piece of software ever made by Microsoft for free. When I log onto Windows 8.1 the start menu is there without doing anything. Right away my facebook notifications show on the start screen. Right away weather, sports, and news all show on the start screen. Then I go into the Bing News app now called MSN news (which is a data mining app - this provides news from 100s of sources I choose) Afterwards I use Visual Studio Ultimate - provided free And you wouldn't have had to waste the 15 minutes when Windows 8 was already installed - just saying :D

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              • T Tim Carmichael

                When you consider the amount of vitriol that is normally spewed into the lounge, generally aimed at Microsoft by developers that purportedly use Microsoft products, I make a conscious decision to post a postitive comment in the hopes that it would somewhat alter the balance. Or, at least give people pause to think... One simple act may not change the world, but it can change someones world.

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                Middle Manager
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                I nominate you for the upcoming Nobel Prize for Peace ;P But really though, I agree with you on this. How is it in a world of grays so many people see black or white (usually black)?

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                • T Tim Carmichael

                  Got up today, read my e-mail, browsed some news site. The computer didn't crash, there were no apparent issues. All of this while using Windows 8. So, until such time as I can find the time to write my own operating system and browser, I will continue to use what I have - Windows 8. And griping about what I don't like is wasted breath... so, I shant.

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                  Tomz_KV
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                  What you have will change: Windows 1000000 is coming and force you to upgrade. :laugh:

                  TOMZ_KV

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                    Signed up to be a Microsoft developer for free Received every piece of software ever made by Microsoft for free. When I log onto Windows 8.1 the start menu is there without doing anything. Right away my facebook notifications show on the start screen. Right away weather, sports, and news all show on the start screen. Then I go into the Bing News app now called MSN news (which is a data mining app - this provides news from 100s of sources I choose) Afterwards I use Visual Studio Ultimate - provided free And you wouldn't have had to waste the 15 minutes when Windows 8 was already installed - just saying :D

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                    Simon ORiordan from UK
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                    You must be near the top of the Microsoft pyramid scheme. :laugh: Incidentally, the 15 minutes included installing MonoDevelop, correcting the code, and building and testing the applications, improving the applications(C# and C++), and installing the latest OpenCV libraries. And I didn't have to sign up for anything or anybody. I'm a salaried Nomad. I guess it all comes down to choices. How long does it take to install Visual Studio Ultimate? :-D

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                    • T Tomz_KV

                      What you have will change: Windows 1000000 is coming and force you to upgrade. :laugh:

                      TOMZ_KV

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                      Simon ORiordan from UK
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                      Incidentally, I was told by somebody connected that the reason they're going to 10 is because millions of people have applications and code containing functionality based on "Win 9X" macros, which would of course crash all the legacy (and not so legacy) applications as soon as they detected Windows 9. :laugh:

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                      • M Middle Manager

                        I nominate you for the upcoming Nobel Prize for Peace ;P But really though, I agree with you on this. How is it in a world of grays so many people see black or white (usually black)?

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                        rnbergren
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                        " How is it in a world of grays so many people see black or white (usually black)? " Nice quote and so true.

                        To err is human to really mess up you need a computer

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                        • M Marc Clifton

                          Tim Carmichael wrote:

                          Got up today, read my e-mail, browsed some news site.

                          Yes, but did you try to do anything productive while using W8? ;) Marc

                          Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Higher Order Programming

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                          obermd
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                          I use Windows 8.1 for everything I do. This includes both VS and Android Studio development. Once the Windows 8.1 start screen is configured it's more productive than Windows 7.

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                          • S Simon ORiordan from UK

                            You must be near the top of the Microsoft pyramid scheme. :laugh: Incidentally, the 15 minutes included installing MonoDevelop, correcting the code, and building and testing the applications, improving the applications(C# and C++), and installing the latest OpenCV libraries. And I didn't have to sign up for anything or anybody. I'm a salaried Nomad. I guess it all comes down to choices. How long does it take to install Visual Studio Ultimate? :-D

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                            giuchici
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                            17 minutes and 18 seconds. By the way stop trolling.

                            giuchici

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                            • S Simon ORiordan from UK

                              You must be near the top of the Microsoft pyramid scheme. :laugh: Incidentally, the 15 minutes included installing MonoDevelop, correcting the code, and building and testing the applications, improving the applications(C# and C++), and installing the latest OpenCV libraries. And I didn't have to sign up for anything or anybody. I'm a salaried Nomad. I guess it all comes down to choices. How long does it take to install Visual Studio Ultimate? :-D

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                              ColborneGreg
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                              $0 income last 2 years - spent doing whatever I want, though I've been using the time to write experimental software. 2 and a half minutes from ISO on hard drive.

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                              • S Simon ORiordan from UK

                                You must be near the top of the Microsoft pyramid scheme. :laugh: Incidentally, the 15 minutes included installing MonoDevelop, correcting the code, and building and testing the applications, improving the applications(C# and C++), and installing the latest OpenCV libraries. And I didn't have to sign up for anything or anybody. I'm a salaried Nomad. I guess it all comes down to choices. How long does it take to install Visual Studio Ultimate? :-D

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                                ColborneGreg
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                                VS ultimate from an ISO via HDD 2-5 minute install. So you want me to believe that in the first 15 minutes of having a computer you are correcting code... It's one thing to talk about a computer being fast and another thing to make yourself seem super human, you just came off as a lair.

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                                  17 minutes and 18 seconds. By the way stop trolling.

                                  giuchici

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                                  Simon ORiordan from UK
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                                  I wasn't trolling, unlike some other people who's name I forget. I was simply trying to enlighten.

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                                    VS ultimate from an ISO via HDD 2-5 minute install. So you want me to believe that in the first 15 minutes of having a computer you are correcting code... It's one thing to talk about a computer being fast and another thing to make yourself seem super human, you just came off as a lair.

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                                    Simon ORiordan from UK
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                                    Did you get the HDD drive free as well? Liar incidentally, not lair. And no, I do not lie, as you would find if you you stopped being a Microsofty and looked at the big, good world out there.

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                                      VS ultimate from an ISO via HDD 2-5 minute install. So you want me to believe that in the first 15 minutes of having a computer you are correcting code... It's one thing to talk about a computer being fast and another thing to make yourself seem super human, you just came off as a lair.

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                                      Simon ORiordan from UK
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                                      Incidentally, I took an hour or two to build the system(80GB of Music from backup, that sort of thing). The 15 minutes was from when I decided to get my applications running on the new computer to having them running. No SSD, no lie. Oh, and while we're being completely honest, there is one fault with 14.04 on this PC; Broadcom doesn't supply the exact Linux driver for my BCM43142 dual wifi/bluetooth card, so the distro reverts to an alternative driver which really isn't very good. Still, 14.10 is out in two weeks; I've checked, it has updated BCM drivers, which *may* improve things. If not, they will get around to it eventually. I buy brand, spanking new hardware very rarely, so I'm in it for the long term anyway.

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                                      • S Simon ORiordan from UK

                                        Did you get the HDD drive free as well? Liar incidentally, not lair. And no, I do not lie, as you would find if you you stopped being a Microsofty and looked at the big, good world out there.

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                                        ColborneGreg
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                                        When you come off as a lair you already lost credibility. In your second message you continue to alter your story backing up that you are a lair.

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                                        • C ColborneGreg

                                          When you come off as a lair you already lost credibility. In your second message you continue to alter your story backing up that you are a lair.

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                                          Simon ORiordan from UK
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                                          Bye bye troll.

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