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  • L Lost User

    Saddam Hussein has 48 hours to leave the country with his family. What if...
    ... he would decide to so and leave the command to the UNO to install a temporary gouvernement and democratic elections?
    This would be the worst thing that could happen to president Bush and the US. Why? - He would not have to right to intrude into the Iraq, the US-army would have to go back home. - Iraq would keep his weapons and continue hiding them, supposed they really have some, which is not proved at all. - Those US-companies which prepare themselves to get down to Iraq after the war to build up the country and make a lot of money would loose those really interesting jobs. - Bush would have to get back to his office to think it over again and find another way to get to the oil reserves in Iraq. ... it seems like the US need this war to get its economy rolling again. Am I dreaming or is the world going up side down?

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    Nick Seng
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    My Business Grad friend once told me business is good for war. Go figure. Notorious SMC


    The difference between the almost-right word & the right word is a really large matter - it's the difference between the lightning bug and the Lightning Mark Twain
    Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please Mark Twain

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    • L Lost User

      Saddam Hussein has 48 hours to leave the country with his family. What if...
      ... he would decide to so and leave the command to the UNO to install a temporary gouvernement and democratic elections?
      This would be the worst thing that could happen to president Bush and the US. Why? - He would not have to right to intrude into the Iraq, the US-army would have to go back home. - Iraq would keep his weapons and continue hiding them, supposed they really have some, which is not proved at all. - Those US-companies which prepare themselves to get down to Iraq after the war to build up the country and make a lot of money would loose those really interesting jobs. - Bush would have to get back to his office to think it over again and find another way to get to the oil reserves in Iraq. ... it seems like the US need this war to get its economy rolling again. Am I dreaming or is the world going up side down?

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      Hans Ruck
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      Danoo wrote: Am I dreaming or is the world going up side down? Both. rechi

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      • L Lost User

        Saddam Hussein has 48 hours to leave the country with his family. What if...
        ... he would decide to so and leave the command to the UNO to install a temporary gouvernement and democratic elections?
        This would be the worst thing that could happen to president Bush and the US. Why? - He would not have to right to intrude into the Iraq, the US-army would have to go back home. - Iraq would keep his weapons and continue hiding them, supposed they really have some, which is not proved at all. - Those US-companies which prepare themselves to get down to Iraq after the war to build up the country and make a lot of money would loose those really interesting jobs. - Bush would have to get back to his office to think it over again and find another way to get to the oil reserves in Iraq. ... it seems like the US need this war to get its economy rolling again. Am I dreaming or is the world going up side down?

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        Paul Selormey
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        Danoo wrote: ... it seems like the US need this war to get its economy rolling again. Innocents are about to loose their lives... Danoo wrote: Am I dreaming or is the world going up side down? Hello, Russians here put pressure on Putin to act to save the poor people of Iraq. Seems America/British/Spain decide to go illegal, there is no need to respect so-called internalional laws. Danoo wrote: Am I dreaming or is the world going up side down? ...or was Osama bin Laden right? Best regards, Paul. Pray for the people of Iraq, they have right to live too.

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          My Business Grad friend once told me business is good for war. Go figure. Notorious SMC


          The difference between the almost-right word & the right word is a really large matter - it's the difference between the lightning bug and the Lightning Mark Twain
          Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please Mark Twain

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          johncogan
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          I think you mean "War is good for business..." Saw the Stock Market firgures this morning, they are climbing....

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          • P Paul Selormey

            Danoo wrote: ... it seems like the US need this war to get its economy rolling again. Innocents are about to loose their lives... Danoo wrote: Am I dreaming or is the world going up side down? Hello, Russians here put pressure on Putin to act to save the poor people of Iraq. Seems America/British/Spain decide to go illegal, there is no need to respect so-called internalional laws. Danoo wrote: Am I dreaming or is the world going up side down? ...or was Osama bin Laden right? Best regards, Paul. Pray for the people of Iraq, they have right to live too.

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            Davy Mitchell
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            Couldn't they have easily got the oil last time? I don't buy the 'it's all about oil' line. Davy Blog for Software Testing, Bugs, Quality, Security and Stability - www.latedecember.com
            News From Angus, Scotland - The Angus Blog

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            • L Lost User

              Saddam Hussein has 48 hours to leave the country with his family. What if...
              ... he would decide to so and leave the command to the UNO to install a temporary gouvernement and democratic elections?
              This would be the worst thing that could happen to president Bush and the US. Why? - He would not have to right to intrude into the Iraq, the US-army would have to go back home. - Iraq would keep his weapons and continue hiding them, supposed they really have some, which is not proved at all. - Those US-companies which prepare themselves to get down to Iraq after the war to build up the country and make a lot of money would loose those really interesting jobs. - Bush would have to get back to his office to think it over again and find another way to get to the oil reserves in Iraq. ... it seems like the US need this war to get its economy rolling again. Am I dreaming or is the world going up side down?

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              Michael P Butler
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              Danoo wrote: ... he would decide to so and leave the command to the UNO to install a temporary gouvernement and democratic elections? It would never happen. Saddam just isn't that kind of guy. He'd rather go down in flames rather than surrender to the UN. He's more likely to dig out the weapons he's been hiding and use them against his neighbours when he is attacked. Michael 'War is at best barbarism...Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, more vengeance, more desolation. War is hell.' - General William Sherman, 1879

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              • L Lost User

                Saddam Hussein has 48 hours to leave the country with his family. What if...
                ... he would decide to so and leave the command to the UNO to install a temporary gouvernement and democratic elections?
                This would be the worst thing that could happen to president Bush and the US. Why? - He would not have to right to intrude into the Iraq, the US-army would have to go back home. - Iraq would keep his weapons and continue hiding them, supposed they really have some, which is not proved at all. - Those US-companies which prepare themselves to get down to Iraq after the war to build up the country and make a lot of money would loose those really interesting jobs. - Bush would have to get back to his office to think it over again and find another way to get to the oil reserves in Iraq. ... it seems like the US need this war to get its economy rolling again. Am I dreaming or is the world going up side down?

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                Lost User
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                War might be good for certain parts of industry, but in the long term its bad. a $20,000,000 aircraft shot down is scrap at best. Thats a lot of money taken out of the economy. The tigress is here :-D

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                • D Davy Mitchell

                  Couldn't they have easily got the oil last time? I don't buy the 'it's all about oil' line. Davy Blog for Software Testing, Bugs, Quality, Security and Stability - www.latedecember.com
                  News From Angus, Scotland - The Angus Blog

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                  Paul Selormey
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                  Davy Mitchell wrote: Couldn't they have easily got the oil last time? Funny, you brought up oil case even though there is no oil mentioned in my post - may be you have more story to tell us. To answer you, no - Kuwait was paying the bill then and UN was involved. That might even explain why they do not want any country involvement this time, just a UN rubber stamp. Davy Mitchell wrote: I don't buy the 'it's all about oil' line. Since you brought it, I do not know who is selling it. The truth is innocent Iraqis are about to be murdered in cold blood, you do not have to buy oil line to know. Best regards, Paul. Pray for the innocent souls about to be murdered in Iraq.

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                    Danoo wrote: ... it seems like the US need this war to get its economy rolling again. Innocents are about to loose their lives... Danoo wrote: Am I dreaming or is the world going up side down? Hello, Russians here put pressure on Putin to act to save the poor people of Iraq. Seems America/British/Spain decide to go illegal, there is no need to respect so-called internalional laws. Danoo wrote: Am I dreaming or is the world going up side down? ...or was Osama bin Laden right? Best regards, Paul. Pray for the people of Iraq, they have right to live too.

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                    Doug Goulden
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                    Paul Selormey wrote: ...or was Osama bin Laden right :wtf::mad:You are all screwed up. You think a guy who smashes airplanes into buildings might be right? Maybe you should go get a sling shot and head over to Baghdad. Paul Selormey wrote: Pray for the people of Iraq, they have right to live too Yeah they do, and after this is all over there won't be a madman gassing them, executing them, etc, etc, etc. The estimates are that Saddaam has killed over 1,000,000 Muslims since he came to power. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                    • N Nick Seng

                      My Business Grad friend once told me business is good for war. Go figure. Notorious SMC


                      The difference between the almost-right word & the right word is a really large matter - it's the difference between the lightning bug and the Lightning Mark Twain
                      Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please Mark Twain

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                      peterchen
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                      War is good for business only because it moves your salary into the hands of companies - kind of "forcing you to buy home made goods". Beyond than that, it's economic suicide.


                      Italian is a beautiful language. amare means to love, and amara bitter.
                      sighist | Agile Programming | doxygen

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                      • L Lost User

                        War might be good for certain parts of industry, but in the long term its bad. a $20,000,000 aircraft shot down is scrap at best. Thats a lot of money taken out of the economy. The tigress is here :-D

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                        Paul Selormey
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                        Trollslayer wrote: a $20,000,000 aircraft shot down is scrap at best. Thats a lot of money taken out of the economy. It was manufactured in the first place to kill innocent souls, it might have completed its mission. Best regards, Paul. May the Almighty God protect the innocent souls in Iraq.

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                        • L Lost User

                          War might be good for certain parts of industry, but in the long term its bad. a $20,000,000 aircraft shot down is scrap at best. Thats a lot of money taken out of the economy. The tigress is here :-D

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                          brianwelsch
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                          Actually, it requires another $20,000,000 to be spent. A military plane itself is useless to the economy (ie. doesn't produce anything), building one, however is great. Sending troops overseas does hurt though. 250,000 people are not spending money at home, not to mention the increase in pay due to active duty. BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

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                            Couldn't they have easily got the oil last time? I don't buy the 'it's all about oil' line. Davy Blog for Software Testing, Bugs, Quality, Security and Stability - www.latedecember.com
                            News From Angus, Scotland - The Angus Blog

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                            Ranjan Banerji
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                            Neither do I. They already get 56% of Iraqi oil. Now why would they want more? ;-)

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                            • L Lost User

                              War might be good for certain parts of industry, but in the long term its bad. a $20,000,000 aircraft shot down is scrap at best. Thats a lot of money taken out of the economy. The tigress is here :-D

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                              Lost User
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                              The revival of the economy is about spending. A war increases government spending causing a lot of short-term jobs, i guess. A plane going down needs a new one to be built and the defense contractors have more work. My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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                                Actually, it requires another $20,000,000 to be spent. A military plane itself is useless to the economy (ie. doesn't produce anything), building one, however is great. Sending troops overseas does hurt though. 250,000 people are not spending money at home, not to mention the increase in pay due to active duty. BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

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                                Ranjan Banerji
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                                Someone knows his econ. well :-)

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                                • L Lost User

                                  The revival of the economy is about spending. A war increases government spending causing a lot of short-term jobs, i guess. A plane going down needs a new one to be built and the defense contractors have more work. My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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                                  Tim Smith
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                                  You assume that the losses will be replaced. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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                                    Paul Selormey wrote: ...or was Osama bin Laden right :wtf::mad:You are all screwed up. You think a guy who smashes airplanes into buildings might be right? Maybe you should go get a sling shot and head over to Baghdad. Paul Selormey wrote: Pray for the people of Iraq, they have right to live too Yeah they do, and after this is all over there won't be a madman gassing them, executing them, etc, etc, etc. The estimates are that Saddaam has killed over 1,000,000 Muslims since he came to power. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                                    Paul Selormey
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                                    Doug Goulden wrote: You are all screwed up. You think a guy who smashes airplanes into buildings might be right? Oh! how intelligent? worse thing is being planned for Iraq. Doug Goulden wrote: The estimates are that Saddaam has killed over 1,000,000 Muslims since he came to power. ...and how many have Americans killed so far? Doug Goulden wrote: Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that? Of course, this is the time to celebrate. You big boss is about to execute one of your patented killing intellectual property. Best regards, Paul. May the Lord protect the innocent souls of Iraq about to be murdered.

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                                      Saddam Hussein has 48 hours to leave the country with his family. What if...
                                      ... he would decide to so and leave the command to the UNO to install a temporary gouvernement and democratic elections?
                                      This would be the worst thing that could happen to president Bush and the US. Why? - He would not have to right to intrude into the Iraq, the US-army would have to go back home. - Iraq would keep his weapons and continue hiding them, supposed they really have some, which is not proved at all. - Those US-companies which prepare themselves to get down to Iraq after the war to build up the country and make a lot of money would loose those really interesting jobs. - Bush would have to get back to his office to think it over again and find another way to get to the oil reserves in Iraq. ... it seems like the US need this war to get its economy rolling again. Am I dreaming or is the world going up side down?

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                                      brianwelsch
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                                      Bush wants Saddam out. period. If he doesn't have to send troops into Iraq to do it, all the better. The US has been arguing with nations since early 90's about doing this. Clinton wanted to go in too, but didn't because he was afraid of losing respect in the global community. Well, actually he did bomb for 4 days in '98, well that's different right... If Saddam leaves, US goes in to help restructure, along with many other countries. Without outside help the country will fall into anarchy. People who have no experience in managing a country will find it a difficult task to do without outside help, so I imagine the new government will welcome some advice. Whether or not Iraq keeps weapons once Saddam influence is gone, is almost irrelevant. The companies with bids to help in rebuilding will still have opportunities. BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

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                                      • B brianwelsch

                                        Actually, it requires another $20,000,000 to be spent. A military plane itself is useless to the economy (ie. doesn't produce anything), building one, however is great. Sending troops overseas does hurt though. 250,000 people are not spending money at home, not to mention the increase in pay due to active duty. BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

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                                        peterchen
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                                        Yep, war it's kind of your government forcing you to buy "homeland made" products.


                                        Italian is a beautiful language. amare means to love, and amara bitter.
                                        sighist | Agile Programming | doxygen

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                                        • B brianwelsch

                                          Actually, it requires another $20,000,000 to be spent. A military plane itself is useless to the economy (ie. doesn't produce anything), building one, however is great. Sending troops overseas does hurt though. 250,000 people are not spending money at home, not to mention the increase in pay due to active duty. BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

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                                          Stan Shannon
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                                          brianwelsch wrote: building one, however is great Not entirely true. The aircraft itself, once produced does not add anything to the economy. Compared, say, to a fleet of trucks which transport goods. The trucks continue to produce for the economy once built, so the overall impact on the economy is much greater for a fleet of trucks than for a war plane. War may be good for a very limited sector of the economy, but overall the production of military weaponry and paying the troops places a drag on any economy. Economically, the US would be much better off if we downsized our military. "My job is to protect America" George W. Bush.

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