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  • N Nick Seng

    My Business Grad friend once told me business is good for war. Go figure. Notorious SMC


    The difference between the almost-right word & the right word is a really large matter - it's the difference between the lightning bug and the Lightning Mark Twain
    Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please Mark Twain

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    peterchen
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    War is good for business only because it moves your salary into the hands of companies - kind of "forcing you to buy home made goods". Beyond than that, it's economic suicide.


    Italian is a beautiful language. amare means to love, and amara bitter.
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    • L Lost User

      War might be good for certain parts of industry, but in the long term its bad. a $20,000,000 aircraft shot down is scrap at best. Thats a lot of money taken out of the economy. The tigress is here :-D

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      Paul Selormey
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      Trollslayer wrote: a $20,000,000 aircraft shot down is scrap at best. Thats a lot of money taken out of the economy. It was manufactured in the first place to kill innocent souls, it might have completed its mission. Best regards, Paul. May the Almighty God protect the innocent souls in Iraq.

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        War might be good for certain parts of industry, but in the long term its bad. a $20,000,000 aircraft shot down is scrap at best. Thats a lot of money taken out of the economy. The tigress is here :-D

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        brianwelsch
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        Actually, it requires another $20,000,000 to be spent. A military plane itself is useless to the economy (ie. doesn't produce anything), building one, however is great. Sending troops overseas does hurt though. 250,000 people are not spending money at home, not to mention the increase in pay due to active duty. BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

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        • D Davy Mitchell

          Couldn't they have easily got the oil last time? I don't buy the 'it's all about oil' line. Davy Blog for Software Testing, Bugs, Quality, Security and Stability - www.latedecember.com
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          Ranjan Banerji
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          Neither do I. They already get 56% of Iraqi oil. Now why would they want more? ;-)

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          • L Lost User

            War might be good for certain parts of industry, but in the long term its bad. a $20,000,000 aircraft shot down is scrap at best. Thats a lot of money taken out of the economy. The tigress is here :-D

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            Lost User
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            The revival of the economy is about spending. A war increases government spending causing a lot of short-term jobs, i guess. A plane going down needs a new one to be built and the defense contractors have more work. My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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              Actually, it requires another $20,000,000 to be spent. A military plane itself is useless to the economy (ie. doesn't produce anything), building one, however is great. Sending troops overseas does hurt though. 250,000 people are not spending money at home, not to mention the increase in pay due to active duty. BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

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              Ranjan Banerji
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              Someone knows his econ. well :-)

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                The revival of the economy is about spending. A war increases government spending causing a lot of short-term jobs, i guess. A plane going down needs a new one to be built and the defense contractors have more work. My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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                Tim Smith
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                You assume that the losses will be replaced. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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                • D Doug Goulden

                  Paul Selormey wrote: ...or was Osama bin Laden right :wtf::mad:You are all screwed up. You think a guy who smashes airplanes into buildings might be right? Maybe you should go get a sling shot and head over to Baghdad. Paul Selormey wrote: Pray for the people of Iraq, they have right to live too Yeah they do, and after this is all over there won't be a madman gassing them, executing them, etc, etc, etc. The estimates are that Saddaam has killed over 1,000,000 Muslims since he came to power. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                  Paul Selormey
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                  Doug Goulden wrote: You are all screwed up. You think a guy who smashes airplanes into buildings might be right? Oh! how intelligent? worse thing is being planned for Iraq. Doug Goulden wrote: The estimates are that Saddaam has killed over 1,000,000 Muslims since he came to power. ...and how many have Americans killed so far? Doug Goulden wrote: Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that? Of course, this is the time to celebrate. You big boss is about to execute one of your patented killing intellectual property. Best regards, Paul. May the Lord protect the innocent souls of Iraq about to be murdered.

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                    Saddam Hussein has 48 hours to leave the country with his family. What if...
                    ... he would decide to so and leave the command to the UNO to install a temporary gouvernement and democratic elections?
                    This would be the worst thing that could happen to president Bush and the US. Why? - He would not have to right to intrude into the Iraq, the US-army would have to go back home. - Iraq would keep his weapons and continue hiding them, supposed they really have some, which is not proved at all. - Those US-companies which prepare themselves to get down to Iraq after the war to build up the country and make a lot of money would loose those really interesting jobs. - Bush would have to get back to his office to think it over again and find another way to get to the oil reserves in Iraq. ... it seems like the US need this war to get its economy rolling again. Am I dreaming or is the world going up side down?

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                    brianwelsch
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                    Bush wants Saddam out. period. If he doesn't have to send troops into Iraq to do it, all the better. The US has been arguing with nations since early 90's about doing this. Clinton wanted to go in too, but didn't because he was afraid of losing respect in the global community. Well, actually he did bomb for 4 days in '98, well that's different right... If Saddam leaves, US goes in to help restructure, along with many other countries. Without outside help the country will fall into anarchy. People who have no experience in managing a country will find it a difficult task to do without outside help, so I imagine the new government will welcome some advice. Whether or not Iraq keeps weapons once Saddam influence is gone, is almost irrelevant. The companies with bids to help in rebuilding will still have opportunities. BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

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                    • B brianwelsch

                      Actually, it requires another $20,000,000 to be spent. A military plane itself is useless to the economy (ie. doesn't produce anything), building one, however is great. Sending troops overseas does hurt though. 250,000 people are not spending money at home, not to mention the increase in pay due to active duty. BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

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                      peterchen
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                      Yep, war it's kind of your government forcing you to buy "homeland made" products.


                      Italian is a beautiful language. amare means to love, and amara bitter.
                      sighist | Agile Programming | doxygen

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                      • B brianwelsch

                        Actually, it requires another $20,000,000 to be spent. A military plane itself is useless to the economy (ie. doesn't produce anything), building one, however is great. Sending troops overseas does hurt though. 250,000 people are not spending money at home, not to mention the increase in pay due to active duty. BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

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                        Stan Shannon
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                        brianwelsch wrote: building one, however is great Not entirely true. The aircraft itself, once produced does not add anything to the economy. Compared, say, to a fleet of trucks which transport goods. The trucks continue to produce for the economy once built, so the overall impact on the economy is much greater for a fleet of trucks than for a war plane. War may be good for a very limited sector of the economy, but overall the production of military weaponry and paying the troops places a drag on any economy. Economically, the US would be much better off if we downsized our military. "My job is to protect America" George W. Bush.

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                          Doug Goulden wrote: You are all screwed up. You think a guy who smashes airplanes into buildings might be right? Oh! how intelligent? worse thing is being planned for Iraq. Doug Goulden wrote: The estimates are that Saddaam has killed over 1,000,000 Muslims since he came to power. ...and how many have Americans killed so far? Doug Goulden wrote: Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that? Of course, this is the time to celebrate. You big boss is about to execute one of your patented killing intellectual property. Best regards, Paul. May the Lord protect the innocent souls of Iraq about to be murdered.

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                          Tim Smith
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                          Oh! how intelligent? http://www.goenglish.com/ThePotCallingTheKettleBlack.asp[^] Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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                            brianwelsch wrote: building one, however is great Not entirely true. The aircraft itself, once produced does not add anything to the economy. Compared, say, to a fleet of trucks which transport goods. The trucks continue to produce for the economy once built, so the overall impact on the economy is much greater for a fleet of trucks than for a war plane. War may be good for a very limited sector of the economy, but overall the production of military weaponry and paying the troops places a drag on any economy. Economically, the US would be much better off if we downsized our military. "My job is to protect America" George W. Bush.

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                            brianwelsch
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                            Stan Shannon wrote: The aircraft itself, once produced does not add anything to the economy Umm, that's what I was saying... :confused: A military plane itself is useless to the economy (ie. doesn't produce anything), I just saying that building a plane causes a need for parts and labor which is beneficial, I wasn't getting into optimum use of resources. ;) BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

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                              You assume that the losses will be replaced. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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                              Lost User
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                              Considering the current mood of the US administration it would be replaced by atleast 5 :-D My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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                              • N Nick Seng

                                My Business Grad friend once told me business is good for war. Go figure. Notorious SMC


                                The difference between the almost-right word & the right word is a really large matter - it's the difference between the lightning bug and the Lightning Mark Twain
                                Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please Mark Twain

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                                Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                34. War is good for business. 35. Peace is good for business. 202. The justification of profit is profit. :) -- Shine, enlighten me - shine Shine, awaken me - shine Shine for all your suffering - shine

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                                  Oh! how intelligent? http://www.goenglish.com/ThePotCallingTheKettleBlack.asp[^] Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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                                  Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                  Informative :) -- Shine, enlighten me - shine Shine, awaken me - shine Shine for all your suffering - shine

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                                  • S Stan Shannon

                                    brianwelsch wrote: building one, however is great Not entirely true. The aircraft itself, once produced does not add anything to the economy. Compared, say, to a fleet of trucks which transport goods. The trucks continue to produce for the economy once built, so the overall impact on the economy is much greater for a fleet of trucks than for a war plane. War may be good for a very limited sector of the economy, but overall the production of military weaponry and paying the troops places a drag on any economy. Economically, the US would be much better off if we downsized our military. "My job is to protect America" George W. Bush.

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                                    Andreas Saurwein
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                                    Stan Shannon wrote: War may be good for a very limited sector of the economy An sector which would not exist without war. So it is serving only itself. X|


                                    Off to in ~87 days

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                                      Saddam Hussein has 48 hours to leave the country with his family. What if...
                                      ... he would decide to so and leave the command to the UNO to install a temporary gouvernement and democratic elections?
                                      This would be the worst thing that could happen to president Bush and the US. Why? - He would not have to right to intrude into the Iraq, the US-army would have to go back home. - Iraq would keep his weapons and continue hiding them, supposed they really have some, which is not proved at all. - Those US-companies which prepare themselves to get down to Iraq after the war to build up the country and make a lot of money would loose those really interesting jobs. - Bush would have to get back to his office to think it over again and find another way to get to the oil reserves in Iraq. ... it seems like the US need this war to get its economy rolling again. Am I dreaming or is the world going up side down?

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                                      Samsung
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                                      Do not worry, man. Economy will increase, more jobs, more money, we will control oil,... Enjoy! ;)

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                                      • S Stan Shannon

                                        brianwelsch wrote: building one, however is great Not entirely true. The aircraft itself, once produced does not add anything to the economy. Compared, say, to a fleet of trucks which transport goods. The trucks continue to produce for the economy once built, so the overall impact on the economy is much greater for a fleet of trucks than for a war plane. War may be good for a very limited sector of the economy, but overall the production of military weaponry and paying the troops places a drag on any economy. Economically, the US would be much better off if we downsized our military. "My job is to protect America" George W. Bush.

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                                        Jason Henderson
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                                        Stan Shannon wrote: The aircraft itself, once produced does not add anything to the economy. So aircraft maintenance, fuel consumption and pilot salary don't add to the economy? All of these things create wealth. The gov't has to buy parts and fuel from someone which gives them income and paying a pilot certainly gives him more buying power. Economics is not that simple.

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                                        • L Lost User

                                          The revival of the economy is about spending. A war increases government spending causing a lot of short-term jobs, i guess. A plane going down needs a new one to be built and the defense contractors have more work. My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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                                          Jason Henderson
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                                          Yes govt spending will stimulate the economy, but it also will sap money from the private sector. So private sector spending is a much more efficient stimulus.

                                          Jason Henderson
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