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  • R Rage

    Two-second interviews ? Like *starts counting* one ... two ... done ? You should be more confident in yourself, I am sure you can last at least five minutes. ;P

    ~RaGE();

    I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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    Stammer. That should stretch it out to 6 or 8 seconds, easy.

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    • G glennPattonWork3

      Hi All, Regulars will know of employment trouble, I now have two second interviews coming. I feel that while I could do both jobs one is beyond the 'Here Be Monsters' sign very close to the middle of know where, the other is much closer to life but does work in an area which I don't really know (but the employers seem to want to train me!). Any suggestions, Help? Glenn

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      Given a choice, I would take the second offer because learning new things ( and also getting paid) will expand my skillset which will help me in future search

      cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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      • G glennPattonWork3

        Hi All, Regulars will know of employment trouble, I now have two second interviews coming. I feel that while I could do both jobs one is beyond the 'Here Be Monsters' sign very close to the middle of know where, the other is much closer to life but does work in an area which I don't really know (but the employers seem to want to train me!). Any suggestions, Help? Glenn

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        Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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        I second OG on this. Do not rule out one of them before interview! You can get both, visit both places and see how you feel about before saying your last word...

        I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V) תפסיק לספר לה' כמה הצרות שלך גדולות, תספר לצרות שלך כמה ה' גדול!

        "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

          Think of the advantages: Middle of nowhere: light traffic means easy commute (except for one week in winter when the snow is deep). You don't have to live next door to your workplace! Area you don't know: provided it's something interesting to you, and they are willing to train (and give you time to get good at it) that's not a problem either - learning is good! :laugh: Approach both with confidence, and an open mind - try to get them both and you can make a decision then. Assume you don't want one of them and what happens if you don't get the other? As you have seen, it's a lot easier to get a job if you already have one... :laugh: Good luck!

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          glennPattonWork3
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          Quote:

          As you have seen, it's a lot easier to get a job if you already have one... :laugh:

          Which was pretty much what I was thinking.

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            Hi All, Regulars will know of employment trouble, I now have two second interviews coming. I feel that while I could do both jobs one is beyond the 'Here Be Monsters' sign very close to the middle of know where, the other is much closer to life but does work in an area which I don't really know (but the employers seem to want to train me!). Any suggestions, Help? Glenn

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            How are they going to know you are the right candidate after a 2 second Interview?

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            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

              Think of the advantages: Middle of nowhere: light traffic means easy commute (except for one week in winter when the snow is deep). You don't have to live next door to your workplace! Area you don't know: provided it's something interesting to you, and they are willing to train (and give you time to get good at it) that's not a problem either - learning is good! :laugh: Approach both with confidence, and an open mind - try to get them both and you can make a decision then. Assume you don't want one of them and what happens if you don't get the other? As you have seen, it's a lot easier to get a job if you already have one... :laugh: Good luck!

              Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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              Nagy Vilmos
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              OriginalGriff wrote:

              As you have seen, it's a lot easier to get a job if you already have one...

              :sigh:

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                How are they going to know you are the right candidate after a 2 second Interview?

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                You don't know me, I can confuse most people by looking at them.

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                  OriginalGriff wrote:

                  As you have seen, it's a lot easier to get a job if you already have one...

                  :sigh:

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                  Oh Nagy, how are you doing work wise?

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                    Oh Nagy, how are you doing work wise?

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                    glennPattonPUB wrote:

                    how are you doing work wise?

                    A sparrow's nadger short of f'all! :laugh: I had a second interview yesterday, hopefully I'll get called back later today. This company has FOUR [count 'em] interviews with HR, Project Management, Development / Technical and finally with the MD to discuss the wonga. So I'm either half way in or rising for the fall. [edit] ... and an online technical test for C# and Java. That'll be fun; fun like catching your hand in a closing door.

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                      You don't know me, I can confuse most people by looking at them.

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                      Nagy Vilmos
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                      You don't know Pomps, he can confuse people without looking at them!

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                      • N Nagy Vilmos

                        glennPattonPUB wrote:

                        how are you doing work wise?

                        A sparrow's nadger short of f'all! :laugh: I had a second interview yesterday, hopefully I'll get called back later today. This company has FOUR [count 'em] interviews with HR, Project Management, Development / Technical and finally with the MD to discuss the wonga. So I'm either half way in or rising for the fall. [edit] ... and an online technical test for C# and Java. That'll be fun; fun like catching your hand in a closing door.

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                        Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                        an online technical test for C# and Java. That'll be fun

                        Do what everyone else seems to: ask for "URGNT!!! NEED CODZZZZ!!!" in QA... :laugh:

                        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                        "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                          Stammer. That should stretch it out to 6 or 8 seconds, easy.

                          Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                          Yes that should work but only if discussion content is kept relevant.

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                          • N Nagy Vilmos

                            glennPattonPUB wrote:

                            how are you doing work wise?

                            A sparrow's nadger short of f'all! :laugh: I had a second interview yesterday, hopefully I'll get called back later today. This company has FOUR [count 'em] interviews with HR, Project Management, Development / Technical and finally with the MD to discuss the wonga. So I'm either half way in or rising for the fall. [edit] ... and an online technical test for C# and Java. That'll be fun; fun like catching your hand in a closing door.

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                            glennPattonWork3
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                            ... and an online technical test for C# and Java. That'll be fun; fun like catching your hand in a closing door.

                            I have fallen foul of those things many times. The best I have done was sorting out a C test that suddenly ask you a question on Dephi. Best O' Luck though:thumbsup:

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                            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                              Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                              an online technical test for C# and Java. That'll be fun

                              Do what everyone else seems to: ask for "URGNT!!! NEED CODZZZZ!!!" in QA... :laugh:

                              Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                              Nagy Vilmos
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                              Too late, done it since my last post. 30 questions, allow 45-60 minutes, finished inside 30. Aty a guesstimate I scored 80% +/- 19.36%

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                                Too late, done it since my last post. 30 questions, allow 45-60 minutes, finished inside 30. Aty a guesstimate I scored 80% +/- 19.36%

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                                Could have been worse: you could have scored 19.36% +/- 80% Good luck - I know what it's like being unemployed, and nobody makes it easy to get back into work...particularly if you are any good and have the record / previous wages to prove it. :sigh:

                                Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

                                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                                "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                  Could have been worse: you could have scored 19.36% +/- 80% Good luck - I know what it's like being unemployed, and nobody makes it easy to get back into work...particularly if you are any good and have the record / previous wages to prove it. :sigh:

                                  Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                                  Jorgen Andersson
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                                  OriginalGriff wrote:

                                  nobody makes it easy to get back into work...particularly if you are any good and have the record / previous wages to prove it.

                                  :doh: One should think it's worse to be bad and have the record / previous wages to prove it

                                  Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello Any organization is like a tree full of monkeys. The monkeys on top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. The monkeys on the bottom look up and see nothing but assholes.

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                                  • G glennPattonWork3

                                    Hi All, Regulars will know of employment trouble, I now have two second interviews coming. I feel that while I could do both jobs one is beyond the 'Here Be Monsters' sign very close to the middle of know where, the other is much closer to life but does work in an area which I don't really know (but the employers seem to want to train me!). Any suggestions, Help? Glenn

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                                    Jorgen Andersson
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                                    Here's another vote for doing both interviews as unbiased as possible, and make up your mind afterward if you'd be so lucky that you get both jobs.

                                    Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello Any organization is like a tree full of monkeys. The monkeys on top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. The monkeys on the bottom look up and see nothing but assholes.

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                                      OriginalGriff wrote:

                                      nobody makes it easy to get back into work...particularly if you are any good and have the record / previous wages to prove it.

                                      :doh: One should think it's worse to be bad and have the record / previous wages to prove it

                                      Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello Any organization is like a tree full of monkeys. The monkeys on top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. The monkeys on the bottom look up and see nothing but assholes.

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                                      You'd think so, wouldn't you? But a really good track record scares a lot of people: they either assume that you won't stay long (and recruiting is expensive, so you want a good return on your investment), or that you will take their job as you can clearly do it better than they can... Being really good and unemployed is close to a death sentence... :sigh: When I was last in that position I ended up taking a job at 1/4 my previous salary. And stayed for ten years. (And yes, I did take the blokes job. And his bosses - right up to MD in the end :laugh: ).

                                      Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

                                      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                                      "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                                        Here's another vote for doing both interviews as unbiased as possible, and make up your mind afterward if you'd be so lucky that you get both jobs.

                                        Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello Any organization is like a tree full of monkeys. The monkeys on top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. The monkeys on the bottom look up and see nothing but assholes.

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                                        glennPattonWork3
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                                        That was my thought at the start. The old thing is turn down one for the other and the other is not offered was a fear. I think do the best for both and hope! :rolleyes:

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                                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                          You'd think so, wouldn't you? But a really good track record scares a lot of people: they either assume that you won't stay long (and recruiting is expensive, so you want a good return on your investment), or that you will take their job as you can clearly do it better than they can... Being really good and unemployed is close to a death sentence... :sigh: When I was last in that position I ended up taking a job at 1/4 my previous salary. And stayed for ten years. (And yes, I did take the blokes job. And his bosses - right up to MD in the end :laugh: ).

                                          Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                                          Nagy Vilmos
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                                          That's the way things are heading; again. Late 90's I was earning big wonga, but it meant working long hours and a lot of travelling - over 4 years and I was never home for more than a few days. It was during this time that I kind of omoved to Hungary and met Mrs Wife. The work/life balance wasn't working so I stepped out and took a 60% pay cut. Worked my way up over the next ten or twelve years and got back to nearly where I had been in 2001. Then I got round house shafted and I took a back seat while Mrs Wife was too darned busy to help with dragging up the babies. Now I want to work the first question is "How much do you want?" followed by "What was your last salary?". It is very hard as people seem to prefer cheap kids with no experience over us expensive well rounded [professionally and physically] professionals with multi-decade resumes.

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