Xamarin is impressive, but..
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Xamarin is specifically a Visual Studio plug-in that allows the .NET community to write cross-platform applications. Xamarin has only ever been intended to work with .NET.
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Dominic Burford wrote:
Xamarin is specifically a Visual Studio plug-in that allows the .NET community to write cross-platform applications.
Not quite. You don't need Visual Studio to build Android, iOS and Mac apps using Xamarin. /ravi
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If Xamarin sponsors Mono, and Mono supports multiple languages (not just C#) why wouldn't Xamarin? or is this something I missed and slated for the future. I've avoided C# thus far (mostly because everyone says I have to use it), and i'ts not that I can't read or write C#, I just don't enjoy it. Note: not trying to start a flame war here, just got a valid question. Everyone has their own personal preferences. :)
Matt McGuire wrote:
If Xamarin sponsors Mono, and Mono supports multiple languages (not just C#) why wouldn't Xamarin?
I believe Xamarin has focused on C# and F# because of the strong integration with Microsoft's tooling. I expect to see a stronger partnership between the two companies, perhaps even an acquisition[^].
Matt McGuire wrote:
I've avoided C# thus far
Nothing wrong with that. However, if you're in the Microsoft space, there are several advantages to using C# over C or C++ (more than can be fit into this post). For me (being a C# developer), Xamarin provides the ability to be productive writing Android code a lot faster than using Java (in which I'm proficient) and Eclipse/XStudio. It also allows me to build for iOS/Mac without the need to learn (and work around) Objective-C. However, I can see why native Java and Objective-C devs would have little interest in learning C# to use Xamarin to build their apps. Java/Eclipse,XStudio and ObjectiveC/XCode are well suited tools for building apps for their respective platforms. /ravi
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Dominic Burford wrote:
Xamarin is specifically a Visual Studio plug-in that allows the .NET community to write cross-platform applications.
Not quite. You don't need Visual Studio to build Android, iOS and Mac apps using Xamarin. /ravi
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Come to that, you don't need VS to build C# apps for windows either...the .NET framework ships with csc.exe
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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If Xamarin sponsors Mono, and Mono supports multiple languages (not just C#) why wouldn't Xamarin? or is this something I missed and slated for the future. I've avoided C# thus far (mostly because everyone says I have to use it), and i'ts not that I can't read or write C#, I just don't enjoy it. Note: not trying to start a flame war here, just got a valid question. Everyone has their own personal preferences. :)
I sponsored a guy to run a marathon, but I'll be buggered if I'll let him do it in my house.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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If Xamarin sponsors Mono, and Mono supports multiple languages (not just C#) why wouldn't Xamarin? or is this something I missed and slated for the future. I've avoided C# thus far (mostly because everyone says I have to use it), and i'ts not that I can't read or write C#, I just don't enjoy it. Note: not trying to start a flame war here, just got a valid question. Everyone has their own personal preferences. :)
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Matt McGuire wrote:
If Xamarin sponsors Mono, and Mono supports multiple languages (not just C#) why wouldn't Xamarin?
If McDonald's sponsors the Olympic Games, and the Olympic Games support throwing javelins, then why can't you throw javelins in your local McDonald's outlet? :rolleyes:
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Matt McGuire wrote:
I've avoided C# thus far
Matt McGuire wrote:
I just don't enjoy it.
How do you know you don't like brussel sprouts unless you try them. :-D
I love brussel sprouts. And broccoli. :)
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Come to that, you don't need VS to build C# apps for windows either...the .NET framework ships with csc.exe
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
Right. /ravi
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I love brussel sprouts. And broccoli. :)
:thumbsup: for broccoli. :thumbsdown: for the sprouts.
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It's an excellent idea. Let's arrange that for the next CP Get-together?
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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Matt McGuire wrote:
If Xamarin sponsors Mono, and Mono supports multiple languages (not just C#) why wouldn't Xamarin?
I believe Xamarin has focused on C# and F# because of the strong integration with Microsoft's tooling. I expect to see a stronger partnership between the two companies, perhaps even an acquisition[^].
Matt McGuire wrote:
I've avoided C# thus far
Nothing wrong with that. However, if you're in the Microsoft space, there are several advantages to using C# over C or C++ (more than can be fit into this post). For me (being a C# developer), Xamarin provides the ability to be productive writing Android code a lot faster than using Java (in which I'm proficient) and Eclipse/XStudio. It also allows me to build for iOS/Mac without the need to learn (and work around) Objective-C. However, I can see why native Java and Objective-C devs would have little interest in learning C# to use Xamarin to build their apps. Java/Eclipse,XStudio and ObjectiveC/XCode are well suited tools for building apps for their respective platforms. /ravi
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What about ... dare I say it ... VB (gasp). Or Fortran.NET .... COBOL.NET. I've mentioned COBOL 3 times this week. I fear my account may get deleted.:~
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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:thumbsup: for broccoli. :thumbsdown: for the sprouts.
Brussel sprouts with butter and lemon juice. :rose:
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What about ... dare I say it ... VB (gasp). Or Fortran.NET .... COBOL.NET. I've mentioned COBOL 3 times this week. I fear my account may get deleted.:~
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
I have respected COBOL diploma somewhere. Never coded a single line of it outside of that course though.
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What about ... dare I say it ... VB (gasp). Or Fortran.NET .... COBOL.NET. I've mentioned COBOL 3 times this week. I fear my account may get deleted.:~
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
I recently did some VB.NET work. For a few days, close together, a year it's not that bad.
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I recently did some VB.NET work. For a few days, close together, a year it's not that bad.
I know, I use VB not C#. But there are those here that just LOVE their curly braces and semicolons. It's a bit like Catholics and heaven - they like to think they're the only ones here!
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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It's an excellent idea. Let's arrange that for the next CP Get-together?
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
I agree, I wonder if I'll actually get what I ordered, if I'm holding a javalin? Who am I kidding, it'll still be wrong..
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
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I agree, I wonder if I'll actually get what I ordered, if I'm holding a javalin? Who am I kidding, it'll still be wrong..
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
There's your big mistake: Holding it is no use. Spear a few of the buggers to incentivize the remainder.
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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Brussel sprouts with butter and lemon juice. :rose:
Brussel sprouts with sirloin steak and fried potatoes without the brussel sprouts. :thumbsup: Best description ever[^]
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello Any organization is like a tree full of monkeys. The monkeys on top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. The monkeys on the bottom look up and see nothing but assholes.
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If Xamarin sponsors Mono, and Mono supports multiple languages (not just C#) why wouldn't Xamarin? or is this something I missed and slated for the future. I've avoided C# thus far (mostly because everyone says I have to use it), and i'ts not that I can't read or write C#, I just don't enjoy it. Note: not trying to start a flame war here, just got a valid question. Everyone has their own personal preferences. :)
I wasn't that impressed with Xamarin when I evaluated it. It seems promising, but has a lot of holes and the documentation and support leaves a lot to be desired. Then there is the absurd pricing. EDIT: For those curious, for the full product they charge $1899 per developer per platform per year. The most recent project where this would have been used involved four platforms and, once we got going, at least three main developers. $22,788 per year isn't chump change for a small company (not indie, bigger than 20 employees and been around longer than 3 years) and for that, I expect stellar support, far fewer bugs and a much more complete SDK.
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I agree, I wonder if I'll actually get what I ordered, if I'm holding a javalin? Who am I kidding, it'll still be wrong..
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
It's McDonald's; even if you get exactly what you asked for, it would still be wrong. You do know their "100% Beef burgers" contain a mixture of cow eyeballs and worm meat[^]? They're only allowed to call them "100% Beef burgers" because the small amount of beef they contain comes from a company called "100% Beef Company". X| Link[^] for the gullible fools who thought that was real! ;P
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