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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    Yeah...but you do have to wear silly little glasses and drive a Saab...:~

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    Duncan Edwards Jones
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    A fair point - and if you should move into project management your job description is closer to "proctologist" than "engineer".

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    • A AndyInUK

      HI, I am currently working as a Web developer and pursuing MBA part time. Now after completing MBA, I want to move into IT management side of world. From last 1-2 years, I have been providing solutions to my employer, and implementing them. My job requirement is more than a developer (Who just work on a given task). Now I have an option to change my role. What do you all suggest? Do i stick to Developer or Web consultant or Solutions Architect considering that I want to move into management side in few years time. Thanks.

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      devenv exe
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      AndyInUK wrote:

      I want to move into management side in few years time.

      How about "Boardroom bully"

      "Coming soon"

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        Yeah...but you do have to wear silly little glasses and drive a Saab...:~

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        Jorgen Andersson
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        :omg:

        Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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        • A AndyInUK

          HI, I am currently working as a Web developer and pursuing MBA part time. Now after completing MBA, I want to move into IT management side of world. From last 1-2 years, I have been providing solutions to my employer, and implementing them. My job requirement is more than a developer (Who just work on a given task). Now I have an option to change my role. What do you all suggest? Do i stick to Developer or Web consultant or Solutions Architect considering that I want to move into management side in few years time. Thanks.

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          Munchies_Matt
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          Stick to what you are best at and forget the ego. (You can make a lot of money as a technical expert, far more than a manager can by the way).

          Sign a petition calling for the boycott of Israel until it returns to its legal 1967 borders.

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            Yeah...but you do have to wear silly little glasses and drive a Saab...:~

            Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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            Nagy Vilmos
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            *Vilmos orders a Saab* :sigh:

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            • A AndyInUK

              HI, I am currently working as a Web developer and pursuing MBA part time. Now after completing MBA, I want to move into IT management side of world. From last 1-2 years, I have been providing solutions to my employer, and implementing them. My job requirement is more than a developer (Who just work on a given task). Now I have an option to change my role. What do you all suggest? Do i stick to Developer or Web consultant or Solutions Architect considering that I want to move into management side in few years time. Thanks.

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              Marc Clifton
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              I prefer to call myself an Ontology Engineer[^] :-D And no, you can't use it, it's been taken! Marc

              Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Higher Order Programming

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              • A AndyInUK

                HI, I am currently working as a Web developer and pursuing MBA part time. Now after completing MBA, I want to move into IT management side of world. From last 1-2 years, I have been providing solutions to my employer, and implementing them. My job requirement is more than a developer (Who just work on a given task). Now I have an option to change my role. What do you all suggest? Do i stick to Developer or Web consultant or Solutions Architect considering that I want to move into management side in few years time. Thanks.

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                RugbyLeague
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                Depends who you want to blame Consultants blame architects Architects blame consultants and developers Developers blame consultants and architects

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                • N Nagy Vilmos

                  *Vilmos orders a Saab* :sigh:

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                  OriginalGriff
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                  You might have to wait a while for delivery: they went bust in 2012... :laugh: [edit]Turns out they are making a come back (again) and selling the same cars that didn't sell last time, plus "an electric car" (so that should be ...um...different)[/edit]

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                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                  "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                  • A AndyInUK

                    HI, I am currently working as a Web developer and pursuing MBA part time. Now after completing MBA, I want to move into IT management side of world. From last 1-2 years, I have been providing solutions to my employer, and implementing them. My job requirement is more than a developer (Who just work on a given task). Now I have an option to change my role. What do you all suggest? Do i stick to Developer or Web consultant or Solutions Architect considering that I want to move into management side in few years time. Thanks.

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                    Keith Barrow
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                    AndyInUK wrote:

                    Now after completing MBA, I want to move into IT management side of world.

                    AndyInUK wrote:

                    What do you all suggest?

                    Not going over to the dark side? :laugh:

                    Alberto Brandolini:

                    The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

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                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                      You might have to wait a while for delivery: they went bust in 2012... :laugh: [edit]Turns out they are making a come back (again) and selling the same cars that didn't sell last time, plus "an electric car" (so that should be ...um...different)[/edit]

                      Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                      Nagy Vilmos
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                      And again this year. Never mind I'll have an older model[^] :-D

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                      • A AndyInUK

                        HI, I am currently working as a Web developer and pursuing MBA part time. Now after completing MBA, I want to move into IT management side of world. From last 1-2 years, I have been providing solutions to my employer, and implementing them. My job requirement is more than a developer (Who just work on a given task). Now I have an option to change my role. What do you all suggest? Do i stick to Developer or Web consultant or Solutions Architect considering that I want to move into management side in few years time. Thanks.

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                        Lost User
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                        Why not "Web Development Architecture Consultant"? :cool:

                        How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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                        • R RugbyLeague

                          Depends who you want to blame Consultants blame architects Architects blame consultants and developers Developers blame consultants and architects

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                          Lost User
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                          'Users' is a category entirely absent from your analysis. This makes me think you've never worked in the business.

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                          • A AndyInUK

                            HI, I am currently working as a Web developer and pursuing MBA part time. Now after completing MBA, I want to move into IT management side of world. From last 1-2 years, I have been providing solutions to my employer, and implementing them. My job requirement is more than a developer (Who just work on a given task). Now I have an option to change my role. What do you all suggest? Do i stick to Developer or Web consultant or Solutions Architect considering that I want to move into management side in few years time. Thanks.

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                            Lost User
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                            Pick what ever role best fits the job application's requirements.

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                              'Users' is a category entirely absent from your analysis. This makes me think you've never worked in the business.

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                              RugbyLeague
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                              25+ years in the business. Users?

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                              • A AndyInUK

                                HI, I am currently working as a Web developer and pursuing MBA part time. Now after completing MBA, I want to move into IT management side of world. From last 1-2 years, I have been providing solutions to my employer, and implementing them. My job requirement is more than a developer (Who just work on a given task). Now I have an option to change my role. What do you all suggest? Do i stick to Developer or Web consultant or Solutions Architect considering that I want to move into management side in few years time. Thanks.

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                                Albert Holguin
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                                AndyInUK wrote:

                                Developer or Web consultant or Solutions Architect

                                It depends how you want to market yourself and what it is you really want to be doing. Even though architect sounds like you're at a higher level, I've dealt with plenty of "solutions architects" that were just systems engineers that put things together but hardly ever did any of the real work themselves (so using the title may backfire if someone considers it to be high-level but not understanding of the details). Consultant sort of implies that you're only looking for contract work, not full-time employment (not sure if that's what you're looking for). In any case, I'd stick to being specific to the type of job you're after. If you're applying for a job that specifically states "Developer" and you apply with a resume that says "Solutions Architect", guess who's not getting a call? ...goes the other way around as well... if there's a posting for a "Systems Engineer" or "Solutions Architect", they may not want a "Developer" that has very specific, yet narrow skills.

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                                  And again this year. Never mind I'll have an older model[^] :-D

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                                  Jorgen Andersson
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                                  Cool, which model? I, II or III?

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                                    'Users' is a category entirely absent from your analysis. This makes me think you've never worked in the business.

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                                    Big Daddy Farang
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                                    Good one. What was that "whoosh"-ing sound? :laugh:

                                    BDF The internet makes dumb people dumber and clever people cleverer. -- PaulowniaK

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                                    • A AndyInUK

                                      HI, I am currently working as a Web developer and pursuing MBA part time. Now after completing MBA, I want to move into IT management side of world. From last 1-2 years, I have been providing solutions to my employer, and implementing them. My job requirement is more than a developer (Who just work on a given task). Now I have an option to change my role. What do you all suggest? Do i stick to Developer or Web consultant or Solutions Architect considering that I want to move into management side in few years time. Thanks.

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                                      Roger Wright
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                                      Welder. Become a welder. They work shorter hours, get paid overtime, and are well armed for defense in case someone yells at them.

                                      Will Rogers never met me.

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                                      • A AndyInUK

                                        HI, I am currently working as a Web developer and pursuing MBA part time. Now after completing MBA, I want to move into IT management side of world. From last 1-2 years, I have been providing solutions to my employer, and implementing them. My job requirement is more than a developer (Who just work on a given task). Now I have an option to change my role. What do you all suggest? Do i stick to Developer or Web consultant or Solutions Architect considering that I want to move into management side in few years time. Thanks.

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                                        englebart
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                                        I think a title of Solutions Architect would build a better bridge to management than Developer or Consultant. An Architect usually guides developers on technical issues while a manager guides developers on more day to day or project level execution. As always, check with state level licensing boards to make sure your title does not violate any laws! In my state, you cannot use Architect, Engineer, or Doctor in your title unless you have passed the appropriate state boards.

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                                        • A AndyInUK

                                          HI, I am currently working as a Web developer and pursuing MBA part time. Now after completing MBA, I want to move into IT management side of world. From last 1-2 years, I have been providing solutions to my employer, and implementing them. My job requirement is more than a developer (Who just work on a given task). Now I have an option to change my role. What do you all suggest? Do i stick to Developer or Web consultant or Solutions Architect considering that I want to move into management side in few years time. Thanks.

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                                          agolddog
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                                          Don't chase titles. Don't chase money. Do that which you enjoy and inspires you. Don't worry if they call you janitor, developer, king. You'll have a much more rewarding and enjoyable life, which is really the thing FTW.

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