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  • M Marc Clifton

    Yup, go there all the time, but I'm left feeling like I'm getting only the Republican version of the news. And I am SO sick of seeing Michael Jackson's face on the Entertainment section (oh wait, it's actually been missing for a couple of days now!). Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
    Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
    Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
    Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files"

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    benjymous
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    You could just try news.bbc.co.uk[^] - the BBC is forever being accused of being politically biased by all parties which is a pretty good sign that they're not -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!

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    • M Marc Clifton

      Any recommendations for a web site that delivers quality news, not sensored (self-sensored or otherwise), verified, not politically biased (or at least presents multiple viewpoints), etc? I know, I'm probably asking for too much. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
      Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
      Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
      Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files"

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      Marc Clifton wrote: at least presents multiple viewpoints Good idea ! The tigress is here :-D

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      • M Marc Clifton

        Any recommendations for a web site that delivers quality news, not sensored (self-sensored or otherwise), verified, not politically biased (or at least presents multiple viewpoints), etc? I know, I'm probably asking for too much. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
        Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
        Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
        Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files"

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        Mike Gaskey
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        Go to http://www.drudgereport.com/[^] Ignore the headline links, these are typically headlines with consevative positions (hate to see you get tainted). Then scroll down the page. On the far left column you have URLs for every major paper in the, plus news service feeds. In the middle column you have URLs for every columnist or pundit you might want. Mike

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        • M Marc Clifton

          Any recommendations for a web site that delivers quality news, not sensored (self-sensored or otherwise), verified, not politically biased (or at least presents multiple viewpoints), etc? I know, I'm probably asking for too much. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
          Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
          Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
          Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files"

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          Marc Clifton wrote: Any recommendations for a web site that delivers quality news, not sensored (self-sensored or otherwise), verified, not politically biased (or at least presents multiple viewpoints), etc? I know, I'm probably asking for too much. I think that you have a better chance with multiple sites that have different biases. For a left/liberal site, I recommend Salon.com[^] To get any real use out of it, you have to subscribe ($30 per year ad-free or $18.50 per year with ads). John Carson

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          • M Marc Clifton

            Any recommendations for a web site that delivers quality news, not sensored (self-sensored or otherwise), verified, not politically biased (or at least presents multiple viewpoints), etc? I know, I'm probably asking for too much. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
            Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
            Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
            Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files"

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            Chris Losinger
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            Marc Clifton wrote: politically biased with news, bias is in the eye of the beholder. i happen to think NPR is unbiased, but i hear people bitching that NPR is actually biased to the left, or far-left. yet i simply don't hear any bias. lately i've decided that what people perceive as a "far-left bias" is actually a response to NPR's lack of far-right bias. NPR doesn't make partisan statements (in either direction, frankly). just think of someone who listens to Rush, Hannity and Savage for 6 hours a day, and then turns to a station that doesn't rant and froth about "liberals" and "america-haters". it might just seem that NPR is supporting the left by not constantly ranting against it. in any case, as i said, i feel NPR is essentially free of partisan bias; when they present one side of an argument, they nearly always present the other side. *edit* just to clarify, i'm talking about shows like All Things Considered, not Car Talk, the cooking shows or the game shows, which aren't exactly news, and are often produced by other companies, like PRI, Michigan Public Radio, etc.. */edit* -c


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              Marc Clifton wrote: politically biased with news, bias is in the eye of the beholder. i happen to think NPR is unbiased, but i hear people bitching that NPR is actually biased to the left, or far-left. yet i simply don't hear any bias. lately i've decided that what people perceive as a "far-left bias" is actually a response to NPR's lack of far-right bias. NPR doesn't make partisan statements (in either direction, frankly). just think of someone who listens to Rush, Hannity and Savage for 6 hours a day, and then turns to a station that doesn't rant and froth about "liberals" and "america-haters". it might just seem that NPR is supporting the left by not constantly ranting against it. in any case, as i said, i feel NPR is essentially free of partisan bias; when they present one side of an argument, they nearly always present the other side. *edit* just to clarify, i'm talking about shows like All Things Considered, not Car Talk, the cooking shows or the game shows, which aren't exactly news, and are often produced by other companies, like PRI, Michigan Public Radio, etc.. */edit* -c


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              Please help me get off the floor from laughing so damn hard! NPR is the equivalent of Rush for the lefties. They both suck!

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                Marc Clifton wrote: politically biased with news, bias is in the eye of the beholder. i happen to think NPR is unbiased, but i hear people bitching that NPR is actually biased to the left, or far-left. yet i simply don't hear any bias. lately i've decided that what people perceive as a "far-left bias" is actually a response to NPR's lack of far-right bias. NPR doesn't make partisan statements (in either direction, frankly). just think of someone who listens to Rush, Hannity and Savage for 6 hours a day, and then turns to a station that doesn't rant and froth about "liberals" and "america-haters". it might just seem that NPR is supporting the left by not constantly ranting against it. in any case, as i said, i feel NPR is essentially free of partisan bias; when they present one side of an argument, they nearly always present the other side. *edit* just to clarify, i'm talking about shows like All Things Considered, not Car Talk, the cooking shows or the game shows, which aren't exactly news, and are often produced by other companies, like PRI, Michigan Public Radio, etc.. */edit* -c


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                I tend to be pretty conservative, tend to vote Republican, but consider myself independent. Actually though I would agree with you about NPR, they do a good job covering the news, usually from all sides. There can be a liberal bias sometimes, but I think that the advantage with them is they cover the topics in greater depth than a lot of other sources who stick with "sound bites". Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                  Please help me get off the floor from laughing so damn hard! NPR is the equivalent of Rush for the lefties. They both suck!

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                  Fazlul Kabir
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                  Robert Vista wrote: NPR is the equivalent of Rush for the lefties. Hmmm not quite true. I've seen Diane Reem bringing many right-wingers to her show, but yet to see Rush bringing anyone from the left.

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                  • R Robert Vista

                    Please help me get off the floor from laughing so damn hard! NPR is the equivalent of Rush for the lefties. They both suck!

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                    Chris Losinger
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                    Robert Vista wrote: NPR is the equivalent of Rush for the lefties i'm gonna have to ask you to back up your statement. in the 7 years i've been listening, i've never heard Corey Flinthoff, or anyone else, rant and rave about the evil republicans, hang up on a caller, shout down a caller or call anyone an america-hater, a fascist or any of the other cute names Rush likes to use. -c


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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      Any recommendations for a web site that delivers quality news, not sensored (self-sensored or otherwise), verified, not politically biased (or at least presents multiple viewpoints), etc? I know, I'm probably asking for too much. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
                      Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
                      Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
                      Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files"

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                      Felix Gartsman
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                      Sky News.

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                      • C Chris Losinger

                        Marc Clifton wrote: politically biased with news, bias is in the eye of the beholder. i happen to think NPR is unbiased, but i hear people bitching that NPR is actually biased to the left, or far-left. yet i simply don't hear any bias. lately i've decided that what people perceive as a "far-left bias" is actually a response to NPR's lack of far-right bias. NPR doesn't make partisan statements (in either direction, frankly). just think of someone who listens to Rush, Hannity and Savage for 6 hours a day, and then turns to a station that doesn't rant and froth about "liberals" and "america-haters". it might just seem that NPR is supporting the left by not constantly ranting against it. in any case, as i said, i feel NPR is essentially free of partisan bias; when they present one side of an argument, they nearly always present the other side. *edit* just to clarify, i'm talking about shows like All Things Considered, not Car Talk, the cooking shows or the game shows, which aren't exactly news, and are often produced by other companies, like PRI, Michigan Public Radio, etc.. */edit* -c


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                        Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                        I listen to NPR every now and thanks to WMP. Now even more often since it's war time. I just have one comment on the radio station; it's a pretty boring in how it's "presented". From a fairly objective (and perhaps an ignorant) perspective, I find it quite neutral. But then again, I'm a leftist/liberal european. ;) -- Shine, enlighten me - shine Shine, awaken me - shine Shine for all your suffering - shine

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                        • F Fazlul Kabir

                          Robert Vista wrote: NPR is the equivalent of Rush for the lefties. Hmmm not quite true. I've seen Diane Reem bringing many right-wingers to her show, but yet to see Rush bringing anyone from the left.

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                          Mike Gaskey
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                          Fazlul Kabir wrote: but yet to see Rush bringing anyone from the left. Rush rarely ever brings anyone in, period. He does a monologue. His show is primarily a showcase for his conservative opinions. Mike

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                            Robert Vista wrote: NPR is the equivalent of Rush for the lefties i'm gonna have to ask you to back up your statement. in the 7 years i've been listening, i've never heard Corey Flinthoff, or anyone else, rant and rave about the evil republicans, hang up on a caller, shout down a caller or call anyone an america-hater, a fascist or any of the other cute names Rush likes to use. -c


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                            Chris Losinger wrote: i'm gonna have to ask you to back up your statement. Mara L. (can't spell her name) and Jaun Williams, NPR representatives on FoxNews who represent the liberal view. Mike

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                              I listen to NPR every now and thanks to WMP. Now even more often since it's war time. I just have one comment on the radio station; it's a pretty boring in how it's "presented". From a fairly objective (and perhaps an ignorant) perspective, I find it quite neutral. But then again, I'm a leftist/liberal european. ;) -- Shine, enlighten me - shine Shine, awaken me - shine Shine for all your suffering - shine

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                              Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: I'm a leftist/liberal european.:-D Mike

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                                Please help me get off the floor from laughing so damn hard! NPR is the equivalent of Rush for the lefties. They both suck!

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                                Robert Vista wrote: NPR is the equivalent of Rush for the lefties. I don't think NPR receives faxes from Republican leaders¹ on what to talk about on there shows like Rush does. ¹Anatomy of a Scandal: An Investigation into the Campaign to Undermine the Clinton Presidency by James D. Retter Later,
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                                • M Marc Clifton

                                  Any recommendations for a web site that delivers quality news, not sensored (self-sensored or otherwise), verified, not politically biased (or at least presents multiple viewpoints), etc? I know, I'm probably asking for too much. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
                                  Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
                                  Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
                                  Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files"

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                                  www.worldnews.com[^] articles from various sources around the globe. BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

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                                    Yup, go there all the time, but I'm left feeling like I'm getting only the Republican version of the news. And I am SO sick of seeing Michael Jackson's face on the Entertainment section (oh wait, it's actually been missing for a couple of days now!). Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
                                    Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
                                    Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
                                    Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files"

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                                    it's actually been missing It must have fallen completely off. No, seriously folks, Michael's face has been missing for years. Now you know where they got the idea for the movie "Face-Off". Those willing to trade liberty for security deserve neither - Benjamin Franklin

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                                    • M Mike Gaskey

                                      Chris Losinger wrote: i'm gonna have to ask you to back up your statement. Mara L. (can't spell her name) and Jaun Williams, NPR representatives on FoxNews who represent the liberal view. Mike

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                                      i don't watch Fox news, (why would i trust the news from the same network who gave us Married By America, Joe Millionaire and Boot Camp ? ) but do those two actually come across as "liberal" ? i've heard those reporters' stories on NPR, but they're usually the on-the-scene kind of reports where there's not much room for editorializing. -c


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                                        www.worldnews.com[^] articles from various sources around the globe. BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

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                                        Marc Clifton
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                                        Thanks! I like that one the best. Certainly has perspectives and information that is completely lacking in the mainstream media. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
                                        Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
                                        Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
                                        Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files"

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                                          i don't watch Fox news, (why would i trust the news from the same network who gave us Married By America, Joe Millionaire and Boot Camp ? ) but do those two actually come across as "liberal" ? i've heard those reporters' stories on NPR, but they're usually the on-the-scene kind of reports where there's not much room for editorializing. -c


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                                          Chris Losinger wrote: (why would i trust the news from the same network who gave us Married By America, Joe Millionaire and Boot Camp ? ) True regarding these shows, but remember, Fox also does the Simpsons. Chris Losinger wrote: but do those two actually come across as "liberal" ? Very. There is a segment to the Brit Hume show, airs at 6 PM EST. This segment is 45 minutes into the newscast where the panel discusses the current hot issue. The panel will usually include Mara, Jaun (both drive me around the bend), Mort Kondrake (honest middle of the road guy, publishes Roll Call), Bill Kristol or Fred Barnes (both of the Weekly Standard, very conservative) or some other conservative, which sometimes comes from the Wall Street Journal. Fun to watch, regardless of the side you take. Sometimes gets heated but not with the strident approach on CNN's Crossfire. By the way, a similar panel is on Sunday, 9:00AM (Indianapolis anyway) that is hosted by Tony Snow - the normal Fox network, not FoxNews, although it does air later in the day Sunday on FoxNews. Mike

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