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  • C Chris Losinger

    Marc Clifton wrote: politically biased with news, bias is in the eye of the beholder. i happen to think NPR is unbiased, but i hear people bitching that NPR is actually biased to the left, or far-left. yet i simply don't hear any bias. lately i've decided that what people perceive as a "far-left bias" is actually a response to NPR's lack of far-right bias. NPR doesn't make partisan statements (in either direction, frankly). just think of someone who listens to Rush, Hannity and Savage for 6 hours a day, and then turns to a station that doesn't rant and froth about "liberals" and "america-haters". it might just seem that NPR is supporting the left by not constantly ranting against it. in any case, as i said, i feel NPR is essentially free of partisan bias; when they present one side of an argument, they nearly always present the other side. *edit* just to clarify, i'm talking about shows like All Things Considered, not Car Talk, the cooking shows or the game shows, which aren't exactly news, and are often produced by other companies, like PRI, Michigan Public Radio, etc.. */edit* -c


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    I tend to be pretty conservative, tend to vote Republican, but consider myself independent. Actually though I would agree with you about NPR, they do a good job covering the news, usually from all sides. There can be a liberal bias sometimes, but I think that the advantage with them is they cover the topics in greater depth than a lot of other sources who stick with "sound bites". Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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    • R Robert Vista

      Please help me get off the floor from laughing so damn hard! NPR is the equivalent of Rush for the lefties. They both suck!

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      Fazlul Kabir
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      Robert Vista wrote: NPR is the equivalent of Rush for the lefties. Hmmm not quite true. I've seen Diane Reem bringing many right-wingers to her show, but yet to see Rush bringing anyone from the left.

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        Please help me get off the floor from laughing so damn hard! NPR is the equivalent of Rush for the lefties. They both suck!

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        Chris Losinger
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        Robert Vista wrote: NPR is the equivalent of Rush for the lefties i'm gonna have to ask you to back up your statement. in the 7 years i've been listening, i've never heard Corey Flinthoff, or anyone else, rant and rave about the evil republicans, hang up on a caller, shout down a caller or call anyone an america-hater, a fascist or any of the other cute names Rush likes to use. -c


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        • M Marc Clifton

          Any recommendations for a web site that delivers quality news, not sensored (self-sensored or otherwise), verified, not politically biased (or at least presents multiple viewpoints), etc? I know, I'm probably asking for too much. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
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          Sky News.

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          • C Chris Losinger

            Marc Clifton wrote: politically biased with news, bias is in the eye of the beholder. i happen to think NPR is unbiased, but i hear people bitching that NPR is actually biased to the left, or far-left. yet i simply don't hear any bias. lately i've decided that what people perceive as a "far-left bias" is actually a response to NPR's lack of far-right bias. NPR doesn't make partisan statements (in either direction, frankly). just think of someone who listens to Rush, Hannity and Savage for 6 hours a day, and then turns to a station that doesn't rant and froth about "liberals" and "america-haters". it might just seem that NPR is supporting the left by not constantly ranting against it. in any case, as i said, i feel NPR is essentially free of partisan bias; when they present one side of an argument, they nearly always present the other side. *edit* just to clarify, i'm talking about shows like All Things Considered, not Car Talk, the cooking shows or the game shows, which aren't exactly news, and are often produced by other companies, like PRI, Michigan Public Radio, etc.. */edit* -c


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            Jorgen Sigvardsson
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            I listen to NPR every now and thanks to WMP. Now even more often since it's war time. I just have one comment on the radio station; it's a pretty boring in how it's "presented". From a fairly objective (and perhaps an ignorant) perspective, I find it quite neutral. But then again, I'm a leftist/liberal european. ;) -- Shine, enlighten me - shine Shine, awaken me - shine Shine for all your suffering - shine

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            • F Fazlul Kabir

              Robert Vista wrote: NPR is the equivalent of Rush for the lefties. Hmmm not quite true. I've seen Diane Reem bringing many right-wingers to her show, but yet to see Rush bringing anyone from the left.

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              Mike Gaskey
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              Fazlul Kabir wrote: but yet to see Rush bringing anyone from the left. Rush rarely ever brings anyone in, period. He does a monologue. His show is primarily a showcase for his conservative opinions. Mike

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              • C Chris Losinger

                Robert Vista wrote: NPR is the equivalent of Rush for the lefties i'm gonna have to ask you to back up your statement. in the 7 years i've been listening, i've never heard Corey Flinthoff, or anyone else, rant and rave about the evil republicans, hang up on a caller, shout down a caller or call anyone an america-hater, a fascist or any of the other cute names Rush likes to use. -c


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                Mike Gaskey
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                Chris Losinger wrote: i'm gonna have to ask you to back up your statement. Mara L. (can't spell her name) and Jaun Williams, NPR representatives on FoxNews who represent the liberal view. Mike

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                • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                  I listen to NPR every now and thanks to WMP. Now even more often since it's war time. I just have one comment on the radio station; it's a pretty boring in how it's "presented". From a fairly objective (and perhaps an ignorant) perspective, I find it quite neutral. But then again, I'm a leftist/liberal european. ;) -- Shine, enlighten me - shine Shine, awaken me - shine Shine for all your suffering - shine

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                  Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: I'm a leftist/liberal european.:-D Mike

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                  • R Robert Vista

                    Please help me get off the floor from laughing so damn hard! NPR is the equivalent of Rush for the lefties. They both suck!

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                    Robert Vista wrote: NPR is the equivalent of Rush for the lefties. I don't think NPR receives faxes from Republican leaders¹ on what to talk about on there shows like Rush does. ¹Anatomy of a Scandal: An Investigation into the Campaign to Undermine the Clinton Presidency by James D. Retter Later,
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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      Any recommendations for a web site that delivers quality news, not sensored (self-sensored or otherwise), verified, not politically biased (or at least presents multiple viewpoints), etc? I know, I'm probably asking for too much. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
                      Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
                      Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
                      Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files"

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                      www.worldnews.com[^] articles from various sources around the globe. BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

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                      • M Marc Clifton

                        Yup, go there all the time, but I'm left feeling like I'm getting only the Republican version of the news. And I am SO sick of seeing Michael Jackson's face on the Entertainment section (oh wait, it's actually been missing for a couple of days now!). Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
                        Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
                        Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
                        Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files"

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                        it's actually been missing It must have fallen completely off. No, seriously folks, Michael's face has been missing for years. Now you know where they got the idea for the movie "Face-Off". Those willing to trade liberty for security deserve neither - Benjamin Franklin

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                        • M Mike Gaskey

                          Chris Losinger wrote: i'm gonna have to ask you to back up your statement. Mara L. (can't spell her name) and Jaun Williams, NPR representatives on FoxNews who represent the liberal view. Mike

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                          i don't watch Fox news, (why would i trust the news from the same network who gave us Married By America, Joe Millionaire and Boot Camp ? ) but do those two actually come across as "liberal" ? i've heard those reporters' stories on NPR, but they're usually the on-the-scene kind of reports where there's not much room for editorializing. -c


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                            www.worldnews.com[^] articles from various sources around the globe. BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

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                            Marc Clifton
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                            Thanks! I like that one the best. Certainly has perspectives and information that is completely lacking in the mainstream media. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
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                            Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
                            Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files"

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                              i don't watch Fox news, (why would i trust the news from the same network who gave us Married By America, Joe Millionaire and Boot Camp ? ) but do those two actually come across as "liberal" ? i've heard those reporters' stories on NPR, but they're usually the on-the-scene kind of reports where there's not much room for editorializing. -c


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                              Chris Losinger wrote: (why would i trust the news from the same network who gave us Married By America, Joe Millionaire and Boot Camp ? ) True regarding these shows, but remember, Fox also does the Simpsons. Chris Losinger wrote: but do those two actually come across as "liberal" ? Very. There is a segment to the Brit Hume show, airs at 6 PM EST. This segment is 45 minutes into the newscast where the panel discusses the current hot issue. The panel will usually include Mara, Jaun (both drive me around the bend), Mort Kondrake (honest middle of the road guy, publishes Roll Call), Bill Kristol or Fred Barnes (both of the Weekly Standard, very conservative) or some other conservative, which sometimes comes from the Wall Street Journal. Fun to watch, regardless of the side you take. Sometimes gets heated but not with the strident approach on CNN's Crossfire. By the way, a similar panel is on Sunday, 9:00AM (Indianapolis anyway) that is hosted by Tony Snow - the normal Fox network, not FoxNews, although it does air later in the day Sunday on FoxNews. Mike

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                              • D Doug Goulden

                                I tend to be pretty conservative, tend to vote Republican, but consider myself independent. Actually though I would agree with you about NPR, they do a good job covering the news, usually from all sides. There can be a liberal bias sometimes, but I think that the advantage with them is they cover the topics in greater depth than a lot of other sources who stick with "sound bites". Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                                Doug Goulden wrote: I tend to be pretty conservative, tend to vote Republican, but consider myself independent :laugh::laugh::laugh: I thought understatement was typically british :-D


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                                • M Mike Gaskey

                                  Chris Losinger wrote: (why would i trust the news from the same network who gave us Married By America, Joe Millionaire and Boot Camp ? ) True regarding these shows, but remember, Fox also does the Simpsons. Chris Losinger wrote: but do those two actually come across as "liberal" ? Very. There is a segment to the Brit Hume show, airs at 6 PM EST. This segment is 45 minutes into the newscast where the panel discusses the current hot issue. The panel will usually include Mara, Jaun (both drive me around the bend), Mort Kondrake (honest middle of the road guy, publishes Roll Call), Bill Kristol or Fred Barnes (both of the Weekly Standard, very conservative) or some other conservative, which sometimes comes from the Wall Street Journal. Fun to watch, regardless of the side you take. Sometimes gets heated but not with the strident approach on CNN's Crossfire. By the way, a similar panel is on Sunday, 9:00AM (Indianapolis anyway) that is hosted by Tony Snow - the normal Fox network, not FoxNews, although it does air later in the day Sunday on FoxNews. Mike

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                                  Mike Gaskey wrote: The panel will usually include Mara, Jaun (both drive me around the bend), interesting. maybe i'll throw back a few and try to watch :) Mike Gaskey wrote: Sunday, 9:00AM my clock doesn't have a Sunday 9:00AM. :zzz: -c


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                                  • M Mike Gaskey

                                    Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: I'm a leftist/liberal european.:-D Mike

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                                    Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                    Well, isn't that the republican consensus? :-D -- Shine, enlighten me - shine Shine, awaken me - shine Shine for all your suffering - shine

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                                      Well, isn't that the republican consensus? :-D -- Shine, enlighten me - shine Shine, awaken me - shine Shine for all your suffering - shine

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                                      Nah - I think you're a moderate (whatever that is). ;) Mike

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                                      • M Mike Gaskey

                                        Nah - I think you're a moderate (whatever that is). ;) Mike

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                                        Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                        Well I am to a certain degree. I like some of their points in their manifest - especially their plans for small business/companies. However, I'm not willing to lower any taxes without any good and solid plan on how to cover the state finance. That's where my liberal/socialdemocrat ideas come into the picture. Does that make me a democrat or republican on your political scale? I need to know if I ever get to vote in the US.. ;) In a sense, I'm politically agnostic. -- Shine, enlighten me - shine Shine, awaken me - shine Shine for all your suffering - shine

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                                        • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                                          Well I am to a certain degree. I like some of their points in their manifest - especially their plans for small business/companies. However, I'm not willing to lower any taxes without any good and solid plan on how to cover the state finance. That's where my liberal/socialdemocrat ideas come into the picture. Does that make me a democrat or republican on your political scale? I need to know if I ever get to vote in the US.. ;) In a sense, I'm politically agnostic. -- Shine, enlighten me - shine Shine, awaken me - shine Shine for all your suffering - shine

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                                          Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: In a sense, I'm politically agnostic. That makes you an Independent, no party affiliation, no dogmatic approaches. As a conservative (as seen via my opinions here) I have knee jerk reactions to the right of the spectrum. Sometimes I modify when logic demands, but that is typically in the area of education, elderly care, one or two others where the issue hits the heart. You'd make a fine voter here. Both sides court independents fiercely. Mike

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