Interview Question ??
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I had attended an interview day before yesterday,The Interviewer asked that " Rate yourself out of 10 in Sql Server,Asp.net and C# " why they are asking this Question? Actually what they expecting ? whether they are checking my confident level or technical skill? :confused::confused::confused:
Born To Learn
Probably both and your honesty. I think it is a valid question, but I would ask them to define a 10 level skills. Rating against a senior dev is very different to rating against a guru.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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Probably both and your honesty. I think it is a valid question, but I would ask them to define a 10 level skills. Rating against a senior dev is very different to rating against a guru.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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but I would ask them to define a 10 level skills
What do you mean 10 Level Skills ?
Born To Learn
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I had attended an interview day before yesterday,The Interviewer asked that " Rate yourself out of 10 in Sql Server,Asp.net and C# " why they are asking this Question? Actually what they expecting ? whether they are checking my confident level or technical skill? :confused::confused::confused:
Born To Learn
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but I would ask them to define a 10 level skills
What do you mean 10 Level Skills ?
Born To Learn
You would need to know if your are supposed rate yourself against what YOU perceive as senior developers knowledge or against someone like Charles_Petzold[^]. Without context the question is meaningless. Example, I would rate myself as 9-10 as a LOB developer but against Petzold it would be SUBSTANTIALLY lower ;)
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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You would need to know if your are supposed rate yourself against what YOU perceive as senior developers knowledge or against someone like Charles_Petzold[^]. Without context the question is meaningless. Example, I would rate myself as 9-10 as a LOB developer but against Petzold it would be SUBSTANTIALLY lower ;)
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
Mycroft Holmes wrote:
but against Petzold it would be SUBSTANTIALLY lower
They asked him about SQL, ASP.NET and C# not publishing...
Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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I had attended an interview day before yesterday,The Interviewer asked that " Rate yourself out of 10 in Sql Server,Asp.net and C# " why they are asking this Question? Actually what they expecting ? whether they are checking my confident level or technical skill? :confused::confused::confused:
Born To Learn
In many cases an interview question is asked, not to elicit a simple answer but rather to gain an insight into the candidate's problem solving process. For example if you just say "8" without qualification or further discussion they might conclude that you are not analytical or investigative enough.
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Mycroft Holmes wrote:
but against Petzold it would be SUBSTANTIALLY lower
They asked him about SQL, ASP.NET and C# not publishing...
Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
Petzold is an author of technical books not a publisher. As with any tech author his knowledge has to be way deeper than I need or use.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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Petzold is an author of technical books not a publisher. As with any tech author his knowledge has to be way deeper than I need or use.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
And publishing those book 2 a year for the last 30 years and about 5 articles a day, so probably his knowledge is very academic...
Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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And publishing those book 2 a year for the last 30 years and about 5 articles a day, so probably his knowledge is very academic...
Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:
so probably his knowledge is very academic
Sure but I could just as easily used Sacha Barber, POH, Marc Clifton or any of the prolific authors here on CP to make my point.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:
so probably his knowledge is very academic
Sure but I could just as easily used Sacha Barber, POH, Marc Clifton or any of the prolific authors here on CP to make my point.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
Now, those are real man to compare to!!! :-D
Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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I had attended an interview day before yesterday,The Interviewer asked that " Rate yourself out of 10 in Sql Server,Asp.net and C# " why they are asking this Question? Actually what they expecting ? whether they are checking my confident level or technical skill? :confused::confused::confused:
Born To Learn
When I was interviewing I would always ask this for the technologies required - and hopefully elicit some discussion; For example, I asked it of a junior candidate for a job, about SQL - he answered "9 or 10" - so , I asked for him to confirm there was nothing about SQL he didn't know. He started talking about how he hadn't really used UDFs - and went on to talk about what he had done - as he continued to adjust his score down, and describe his level of knowledge, I gleaned enough information for me to be confident that he did know his limitations, and for me to know what they were. It is a good, simple way of assessing someones knowledge by engaging them in conversation rather than asking lots of tedious questions.
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And publishing those book 2 a year for the last 30 years and about 5 articles a day, so probably his knowledge is very academic...
Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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No, his knowledge is very practical, and his books come full of examples that work. If you want proof, then read any book he has written.
Maybe we see differently the 'practical' part... I've read a lot of books of him, and have learned a lot too, my point is that Charles Petzold can not be a baseline for practical knowledge. He has a much wilder knowledge, but i doubt that he ever had the time to actually implement it on a real application...
Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Maybe we see differently the 'practical' part... I've read a lot of books of him, and have learned a lot too, my point is that Charles Petzold can not be a baseline for practical knowledge. He has a much wilder knowledge, but i doubt that he ever had the time to actually implement it on a real application...
Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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No doubt! But the whole conversation started if it is a good point to compare someone knowledge to Petzold's...or better pick up someone like Marc, you or other CPians...
Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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When I was interviewing I would always ask this for the technologies required - and hopefully elicit some discussion; For example, I asked it of a junior candidate for a job, about SQL - he answered "9 or 10" - so , I asked for him to confirm there was nothing about SQL he didn't know. He started talking about how he hadn't really used UDFs - and went on to talk about what he had done - as he continued to adjust his score down, and describe his level of knowledge, I gleaned enough information for me to be confident that he did know his limitations, and for me to know what they were. It is a good, simple way of assessing someones knowledge by engaging them in conversation rather than asking lots of tedious questions.
PooperPig - Coming Soon
With the availability of google, skill level is almost a moot point. I've found you have to be a better searcher most of the time.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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I had attended an interview day before yesterday,The Interviewer asked that " Rate yourself out of 10 in Sql Server,Asp.net and C# " why they are asking this Question? Actually what they expecting ? whether they are checking my confident level or technical skill? :confused::confused::confused:
Born To Learn
I hate that question. Typically, I'll say 7 or 8, just to be honest and safe, but they give the job to the guy that says 10! It is one of those questions that an interviewer asks when they are either not technical or they don't know much anyways. One of the worst questions I ever was asked was, tell me about .Net Framework. My response was, what do you want to know.
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I had attended an interview day before yesterday,The Interviewer asked that " Rate yourself out of 10 in Sql Server,Asp.net and C# " why they are asking this Question? Actually what they expecting ? whether they are checking my confident level or technical skill? :confused::confused::confused:
Born To Learn
I usually take this to be a rating of my confidence in my own abilities rather than a rating of my technical skill. I know a friend of mine who was interviewing a recent graduate for a role of software developer who rated himself as a 9 out of 10 for C# despite having very little commercial exposure to it. Was he over confident or telling the truth? His other responses during the rest of the interview apparently revealed it was almost certainly over confidence.
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With the availability of google, skill level is almost a moot point. I've found you have to be a better searcher most of the time.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013I used to keep piles of books on my desk. I would never throw out an old book. Now... I have a clean desk, I just google everything. Google takes you from entry level to wherever you want to be in short order (generally speaking). I was looking at my old books at home this weekend. I could not decide whether to have a bon fire (lots of fun) or just box them in the garage (just in case).
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Probably both and your honesty. I think it is a valid question, but I would ask them to define a 10 level skills. Rating against a senior dev is very different to rating against a guru.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
Mycroft Holmes wrote:
Rating against a senior dev is very different to rating against a guru.
I have never met a guru. I have met plenty of people who thought they were gurus, but never met an actual guru.
