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  • K kmoorevs

    Whilst troubleshooting error logs at my hosted website, I came across a ton of 404s from a specific referrer...some type of php messageboard. Curious, I entered the offending domain name in a browser, and was greeted by my very own home page! :wtf: Pinging the domain name also returned my 'dedicated' IP address for my site. I confirmed this on multiple computers to rule out a hosts issue. Sure enough, it seems I now have a new domain name I can use!..at no expense it seems! Sarcasm aside, I did the right thing and reported it to my web host since I believe the owner of the other domain name is also hosted with them. 15 hours later, they confirmed that they have found DNS records for the other domain name 'left on the server' and that they could remove it if I wanted, pending some proof that I was the owner of my account. Having had a night to sleep on it, the turnaround time on the support ticket plus needing to provide proof of ownership kind of put me off. Screw them! I'm just reporting a problem only as a courtesy to them and the other domain owner, who must be asleep at the wheel. The only way it affects me is screwing up my stats and junking up the error logs. I can live with that. I suppose I could create the missing pages to stop the 404s at least. It could be an experiment of sorts! :laugh: What would you do with such an opportunity?

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    DaveAuld
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    Set up a redirect to the NSA....:suss:

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      kmoorevs wrote:

      I could create the missing pages to stop the 404s

      Seems like a good place to post pictures of cats. Other than that, I'd wash my hands of it.

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      kmoorevs
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      The Evil Laugh tag did not work! I was really just thinking of turning the 404s into a marketing opportunity. While not the same audience, you never know...somebody may know somebody in our LOB. Plus the hit counts have doubled for this quarter! :) I could still throw in some cats somewhere! :laugh:

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        Set up a redirect to the NSA....:suss:

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        Paul M Watt
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        I like that idea. Even more than redirecting them to Google's Feeling Lucky

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        • K kmoorevs

          Whilst troubleshooting error logs at my hosted website, I came across a ton of 404s from a specific referrer...some type of php messageboard. Curious, I entered the offending domain name in a browser, and was greeted by my very own home page! :wtf: Pinging the domain name also returned my 'dedicated' IP address for my site. I confirmed this on multiple computers to rule out a hosts issue. Sure enough, it seems I now have a new domain name I can use!..at no expense it seems! Sarcasm aside, I did the right thing and reported it to my web host since I believe the owner of the other domain name is also hosted with them. 15 hours later, they confirmed that they have found DNS records for the other domain name 'left on the server' and that they could remove it if I wanted, pending some proof that I was the owner of my account. Having had a night to sleep on it, the turnaround time on the support ticket plus needing to provide proof of ownership kind of put me off. Screw them! I'm just reporting a problem only as a courtesy to them and the other domain owner, who must be asleep at the wheel. The only way it affects me is screwing up my stats and junking up the error logs. I can live with that. I suppose I could create the missing pages to stop the 404s at least. It could be an experiment of sorts! :laugh: What would you do with such an opportunity?

          "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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          Marc Clifton
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          kmoorevs wrote:

          the turnaround time on the support ticket plus needing to provide proof of ownership kind of put me off.

          Seems like one night is a decent turnaround time. And as for asking for proof of ownership before they fixed it for you, well, I think that's pretty damn good of them - I wouldn't want someone to be able to submit a ticket and discover the DNS on my hosted server just got changed! Marc

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            kmoorevs wrote:

            the turnaround time on the support ticket plus needing to provide proof of ownership kind of put me off.

            Seems like one night is a decent turnaround time. And as for asking for proof of ownership before they fixed it for you, well, I think that's pretty damn good of them - I wouldn't want someone to be able to submit a ticket and discover the DNS on my hosted server just got changed! Marc

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            Deflinek
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            However they should ask owner of the domain, not owner of the server for such proof. Imagine the opposite - someone messed up YOUR domain, but it is some random folk that have to do something before they will point YOUR domain back to YOUR server? :)

            -- "My software never has bugs. It just develops random features."

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              However they should ask owner of the domain, not owner of the server for such proof. Imagine the opposite - someone messed up YOUR domain, but it is some random folk that have to do something before they will point YOUR domain back to YOUR server? :)

              -- "My software never has bugs. It just develops random features."

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              kmoorevs
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              I just closed the ticket without further comment...let them figure it out on their own! :laugh:

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              • K kmoorevs

                Whilst troubleshooting error logs at my hosted website, I came across a ton of 404s from a specific referrer...some type of php messageboard. Curious, I entered the offending domain name in a browser, and was greeted by my very own home page! :wtf: Pinging the domain name also returned my 'dedicated' IP address for my site. I confirmed this on multiple computers to rule out a hosts issue. Sure enough, it seems I now have a new domain name I can use!..at no expense it seems! Sarcasm aside, I did the right thing and reported it to my web host since I believe the owner of the other domain name is also hosted with them. 15 hours later, they confirmed that they have found DNS records for the other domain name 'left on the server' and that they could remove it if I wanted, pending some proof that I was the owner of my account. Having had a night to sleep on it, the turnaround time on the support ticket plus needing to provide proof of ownership kind of put me off. Screw them! I'm just reporting a problem only as a courtesy to them and the other domain owner, who must be asleep at the wheel. The only way it affects me is screwing up my stats and junking up the error logs. I can live with that. I suppose I could create the missing pages to stop the 404s at least. It could be an experiment of sorts! :laugh: What would you do with such an opportunity?

                "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                Mark_Wallace
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                Just put a note on your 404 page for the real domain owner. He's the guy who's getting screwed, right now. And, just to calm your pissed-offedness at the host: How would you like it if some 14-year-old wanker e-mailed your web host, and told them to disconnect its domain name?

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                  Just put a note on your 404 page for the real domain owner. He's the guy who's getting screwed, right now. And, just to calm your pissed-offedness at the host: How would you like it if some 14-year-old wanker e-mailed your web host, and told them to disconnect its domain name?

                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                  kmoorevs
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                  Mark_Wallace wrote:

                  Just put a note on your 404 page for the real domain owner. He's the guy who's getting screwed, right now.

                  I doubt this would get 'his' attention since this has been going on for about 6 months now.

                  Mark_Wallace wrote:

                  How would you like it if some 14-year-old wanker e-mailed your web host, and told them to disconnect its domain name?

                  Then I have no authorization anyway to request/approve changes to another domain's DNS records. Just sayin'... :)

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                  • K kmoorevs

                    Whilst troubleshooting error logs at my hosted website, I came across a ton of 404s from a specific referrer...some type of php messageboard. Curious, I entered the offending domain name in a browser, and was greeted by my very own home page! :wtf: Pinging the domain name also returned my 'dedicated' IP address for my site. I confirmed this on multiple computers to rule out a hosts issue. Sure enough, it seems I now have a new domain name I can use!..at no expense it seems! Sarcasm aside, I did the right thing and reported it to my web host since I believe the owner of the other domain name is also hosted with them. 15 hours later, they confirmed that they have found DNS records for the other domain name 'left on the server' and that they could remove it if I wanted, pending some proof that I was the owner of my account. Having had a night to sleep on it, the turnaround time on the support ticket plus needing to provide proof of ownership kind of put me off. Screw them! I'm just reporting a problem only as a courtesy to them and the other domain owner, who must be asleep at the wheel. The only way it affects me is screwing up my stats and junking up the error logs. I can live with that. I suppose I could create the missing pages to stop the 404s at least. It could be an experiment of sorts! :laugh: What would you do with such an opportunity?

                    "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                    kmoorevs wrote:

                    needing to provide proof of ownership

                    That takes you out of the equation -- you don't own the affected domain, so you can't provide proof of ownership. Onus is on the owner, who either doesn't know, doesn't know what to do about it, or doesn't seem to care. Sounds like a job of kitten wars.. although they're already getting hit by people who steal WiFi from savvy geeks.

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                      kmoorevs wrote:

                      needing to provide proof of ownership

                      That takes you out of the equation -- you don't own the affected domain, so you can't provide proof of ownership. Onus is on the owner, who either doesn't know, doesn't know what to do about it, or doesn't seem to care. Sounds like a job of kitten wars.. although they're already getting hit by people who steal WiFi from savvy geeks.

                      We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.

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                      Curious question here ... if your dns has some of the records pointing to the other guys' ip address, could the reverse also be true on that host?

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                      • K kmoorevs

                        Whilst troubleshooting error logs at my hosted website, I came across a ton of 404s from a specific referrer...some type of php messageboard. Curious, I entered the offending domain name in a browser, and was greeted by my very own home page! :wtf: Pinging the domain name also returned my 'dedicated' IP address for my site. I confirmed this on multiple computers to rule out a hosts issue. Sure enough, it seems I now have a new domain name I can use!..at no expense it seems! Sarcasm aside, I did the right thing and reported it to my web host since I believe the owner of the other domain name is also hosted with them. 15 hours later, they confirmed that they have found DNS records for the other domain name 'left on the server' and that they could remove it if I wanted, pending some proof that I was the owner of my account. Having had a night to sleep on it, the turnaround time on the support ticket plus needing to provide proof of ownership kind of put me off. Screw them! I'm just reporting a problem only as a courtesy to them and the other domain owner, who must be asleep at the wheel. The only way it affects me is screwing up my stats and junking up the error logs. I can live with that. I suppose I could create the missing pages to stop the 404s at least. It could be an experiment of sorts! :laugh: What would you do with such an opportunity?

                        "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                        Kirk Wood
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                        If I were going to do something about the 404s, I would look to setup a handler and get ALL of them. Perhaps put up random pics of a cat or something.

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                        • K Kirk Wood

                          If I were going to do something about the 404s, I would look to setup a handler and get ALL of them. Perhaps put up random pics of a cat or something.

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                          kmoorevs
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                          OK, I've just put up a special landing page for those 404s from the other domain name. When my 404.shtml loads, the failed requests to the other domain are handled...well like this:

                          var refarray = new Array();
                          refarray['otherdomainname.com'] = "404-special.html";
                          for (var i in refarray) {
                          if (document.domain.indexOf(i) != -1) {
                          window.location.reload(refarray[i]);
                          }
                          }

                          Works like a charm...and it includes a cat picture! :laugh:

                          "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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