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Silly question, if Iraq is disarmed why are they firing Scuds?

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  • D Doug Goulden

    Just a question for the French members here ;). If SH was disarmed in '98 and was forbidden to have missles, how come he keeps shooting things he doesn't have into Kuwait? Maybe it was a big slingshot they rigged up quick like a bunny ..... Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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    KaRl
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    Are these missiles Scud or Al-Samud-2? I would wait for several days to have a more reliable answer, I don't trust the media on the Opening Day. Scuds are these missiles derived from the German V2 of 1944, right?


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      Are these missiles Scud or Al-Samud-2? I would wait for several days to have a more reliable answer, I don't trust the media on the Opening Day. Scuds are these missiles derived from the German V2 of 1944, right?


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      Maximilien
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      or maybe the silkworms chinese missiles ... Whatever .. . Max.


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        they aren't firing Scuds. refresh your browser. i take that back. i just heard the military has said that they were "medium-range" missiles. which probably makes them Scuds. -c


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        Doug Goulden
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        Depends on the source CNN says no scuds, Reuters and Fox say Scuds. http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=focusIraqNews&storyID=2418331[^] The limit is like 95 miles in range. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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        • D Doug Goulden

          Just a question for the French members here ;). If SH was disarmed in '98 and was forbidden to have missles, how come he keeps shooting things he doesn't have into Kuwait? Maybe it was a big slingshot they rigged up quick like a bunny ..... Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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          I'm more interested in why nobody is helping the Iraqi's, a fellow UN member, defend themselves from the imperialist dogs who are so wrongly attacking them. BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

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            or maybe the silkworms chinese missiles ... Whatever .. . Max.


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            Chris Losinger
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            maybe they're the chinese kind with the wooden sticks that require you to light a fuse and get away. -c


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            • D Doug Goulden

              Just a question for the French members here ;). If SH was disarmed in '98 and was forbidden to have missles, how come he keeps shooting things he doesn't have into Kuwait? Maybe it was a big slingshot they rigged up quick like a bunny ..... Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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              Kant
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              Doug Goulden wrote: If SH was disarmed in '98 and was forbidden to have missles I think he is not forbidden of using the missiles, the UN set limit (like range) for those missiles. Doug Goulden wrote: Maybe it was a big slingshot they rigged up quick like a bunny ..... Maybe if the US waited for few more months, SH could have destroyed them....who knows... :suss: Follow live World Cup Cricket scores here[^]
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                Doug Goulden wrote: If SH was disarmed in '98 and was forbidden to have missles I think he is not forbidden of using the missiles, the UN set limit (like range) for those missiles. Doug Goulden wrote: Maybe it was a big slingshot they rigged up quick like a bunny ..... Maybe if the US waited for few more months, SH could have destroyed them....who knows... :suss: Follow live World Cup Cricket scores here[^]
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                brianwelsch
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                Kant wrote: Maybe if the US waited for few more months, I'm tired of this shit.... If everyone was so against this, why didn't they take more drastic measures to stop the US? BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

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                  Are these missiles Scud or Al-Samud-2? I would wait for several days to have a more reliable answer, I don't trust the media on the Opening Day. Scuds are these missiles derived from the German V2 of 1944, right?


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                  Yeah I think they are actually pretty old technology, range about 400 miles Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                    Kant wrote: Maybe if the US waited for few more months, I'm tired of this shit.... If everyone was so against this, why didn't they take more drastic measures to stop the US? BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

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                    Doug Goulden
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                    brianwelsch wrote: If everyone was so against this, why didn't they take more drastic measures to stop the US Good luck ..... Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                      brianwelsch wrote: If everyone was so against this, why didn't they take more drastic measures to stop the US Good luck ..... Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                      I guess it's just easier to say " no. don't do it. hey. Stop it." without any real action, so later you can point fingers and say you "tried". :mad: BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

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                      • D Doug Goulden

                        Yeah I think they are actually pretty old technology, range about 400 miles Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                        KaRl
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                        Be patient, wait for a reliable info first. I don't think it's a good strategy to believe news networks when the country wages a war


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                          I'm more interested in why nobody is helping the Iraqi's, a fellow UN member, defend themselves from the imperialist dogs who are so wrongly attacking them. BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

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                          KaRl
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                          I read an article (in the washington post?) reporting saudis crossed the frontier to fight the US. It wasn't confirmed by saudis authorities.


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                            Kant wrote: Maybe if the US waited for few more months, I'm tired of this shit.... If everyone was so against this, why didn't they take more drastic measures to stop the US? BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

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                            Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                            Ahem. Stopping how? Talking obviously didn't stop the US. -- Shine, enlighten me - shine Shine, awaken me - shine Shine for all your suffering - shine

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                              I guess it's just easier to say " no. don't do it. hey. Stop it." without any real action, so later you can point fingers and say you "tried". :mad: BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

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                              Chris Losinger
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                              brianwelsch wrote: without any real action inspections were working - things were being found and destroyed. while it might not satisfy the impatient, it appeared to be working. it didn't require the US to alienate our allies, and it didn't require a war: something which will only stir up even more anti-US feeling. but whatever. you got your fucking war. enjoy it while it lasts. -c


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                                I guess it's just easier to say " no. don't do it. hey. Stop it." without any real action, so later you can point fingers and say you "tried". :mad: BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

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                                Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                What should the naysayers have done then? Threaten with military actions against the coalition!? :confused: I want to grow old and die. I don't want to be here when this planet is blown into pieces. :) -- Shine, enlighten me - shine Shine, awaken me - shine Shine for all your suffering - shine

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                                  Be patient, wait for a reliable info first. I don't think it's a good strategy to believe news networks when the country wages a war


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                                  Doug Goulden
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                                  I have no doubt that the info is sketchy at best, I just wanna know how a group of people that was supposedly disarming for 12 years can shoot a missle into another country (still). Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                                    Ahem. Stopping how? Talking obviously didn't stop the US. -- Shine, enlighten me - shine Shine, awaken me - shine Shine for all your suffering - shine

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                                    brianwelsch
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                                    Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Stopping how? action, not words. My point is that if the UN takes itself seriously, and the majority of the Security Council seriously objects to US invasion of Iraq, then why are they sitting around with their collective thumbs up their asses? My God, stand up for your precious UN, men! Deny the evil Americans! Put some muscle behind your words! I'm sure there are some economic measure they could take as well. At least look like you really give a shit. That's all. BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

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                                      I'm more interested in why nobody is helping the Iraqi's, a fellow UN member, defend themselves from the imperialist dogs who are so wrongly attacking them. BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

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                                      Jason Henderson
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                                      It will happen, but once these people see the carnage they'll turn tail and run back home.

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                                      • C Chris Losinger

                                        brianwelsch wrote: without any real action inspections were working - things were being found and destroyed. while it might not satisfy the impatient, it appeared to be working. it didn't require the US to alienate our allies, and it didn't require a war: something which will only stir up even more anti-US feeling. but whatever. you got your fucking war. enjoy it while it lasts. -c


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                                        Doug Goulden
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                                        The only reason inspections were even started again, after a 4 year lapse, was because the US aimed a gun at SH head. Blix even said yesterday that the cooperation wasn't there from SH. War sucks, but I would rather have it there than to wait til they were to attack us or our allies. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                                        • D Doug Goulden

                                          I have no doubt that the info is sketchy at best, I just wanna know how a group of people that was supposedly disarming for 12 years can shoot a missle into another country (still). Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                                          KaRl
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                                          So, you're pretty satisfied with Chris Losinger's answer, aren't you :-D Moreover, you perfectly know nobody pretended SH had no weapons :)


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