Silly question, if Iraq is disarmed why are they firing Scuds?
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Are these missiles Scud or Al-Samud-2? I would wait for several days to have a more reliable answer, I don't trust the media on the Opening Day. Scuds are these missiles derived from the German V2 of 1944, right?
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Yeah I think they are actually pretty old technology, range about 400 miles Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
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Kant wrote: Maybe if the US waited for few more months, I'm tired of this shit.... If everyone was so against this, why didn't they take more drastic measures to stop the US? BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security
brianwelsch wrote: If everyone was so against this, why didn't they take more drastic measures to stop the US Good luck ..... Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
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brianwelsch wrote: If everyone was so against this, why didn't they take more drastic measures to stop the US Good luck ..... Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
I guess it's just easier to say " no. don't do it. hey. Stop it." without any real action, so later you can point fingers and say you "tried". :mad: BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security
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Yeah I think they are actually pretty old technology, range about 400 miles Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
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I'm more interested in why nobody is helping the Iraqi's, a fellow UN member, defend themselves from the imperialist dogs who are so wrongly attacking them. BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security
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Kant wrote: Maybe if the US waited for few more months, I'm tired of this shit.... If everyone was so against this, why didn't they take more drastic measures to stop the US? BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security
Ahem. Stopping how? Talking obviously didn't stop the US. -- Shine, enlighten me - shine Shine, awaken me - shine Shine for all your suffering - shine
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I guess it's just easier to say " no. don't do it. hey. Stop it." without any real action, so later you can point fingers and say you "tried". :mad: BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security
brianwelsch wrote: without any real action inspections were working - things were being found and destroyed. while it might not satisfy the impatient, it appeared to be working. it didn't require the US to alienate our allies, and it didn't require a war: something which will only stir up even more anti-US feeling. but whatever. you got your fucking war. enjoy it while it lasts. -c
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I guess it's just easier to say " no. don't do it. hey. Stop it." without any real action, so later you can point fingers and say you "tried". :mad: BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security
What should the naysayers have done then? Threaten with military actions against the coalition!? :confused: I want to grow old and die. I don't want to be here when this planet is blown into pieces. :) -- Shine, enlighten me - shine Shine, awaken me - shine Shine for all your suffering - shine
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Be patient, wait for a reliable info first. I don't think it's a good strategy to believe news networks when the country wages a war
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I have no doubt that the info is sketchy at best, I just wanna know how a group of people that was supposedly disarming for 12 years can shoot a missle into another country (still). Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
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Ahem. Stopping how? Talking obviously didn't stop the US. -- Shine, enlighten me - shine Shine, awaken me - shine Shine for all your suffering - shine
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Stopping how? action, not words. My point is that if the UN takes itself seriously, and the majority of the Security Council seriously objects to US invasion of Iraq, then why are they sitting around with their collective thumbs up their asses? My God, stand up for your precious UN, men! Deny the evil Americans! Put some muscle behind your words! I'm sure there are some economic measure they could take as well. At least look like you really give a shit. That's all. BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security
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I'm more interested in why nobody is helping the Iraqi's, a fellow UN member, defend themselves from the imperialist dogs who are so wrongly attacking them. BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security
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brianwelsch wrote: without any real action inspections were working - things were being found and destroyed. while it might not satisfy the impatient, it appeared to be working. it didn't require the US to alienate our allies, and it didn't require a war: something which will only stir up even more anti-US feeling. but whatever. you got your fucking war. enjoy it while it lasts. -c
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The only reason inspections were even started again, after a 4 year lapse, was because the US aimed a gun at SH head. Blix even said yesterday that the cooperation wasn't there from SH. War sucks, but I would rather have it there than to wait til they were to attack us or our allies. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
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I have no doubt that the info is sketchy at best, I just wanna know how a group of people that was supposedly disarming for 12 years can shoot a missle into another country (still). Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
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brianwelsch wrote: without any real action inspections were working - things were being found and destroyed. while it might not satisfy the impatient, it appeared to be working. it didn't require the US to alienate our allies, and it didn't require a war: something which will only stir up even more anti-US feeling. but whatever. you got your fucking war. enjoy it while it lasts. -c
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Chris Losinger wrote: but whatever. you got your f***ing war. enjoy it while it lasts. It's not my war, Chris. And I'm not enjoying it. My point is, we never heard any new suggestions from the "other" side, all I saw was "we're still going to veto war". Anyway, i know its pointless now anyway, so i'll go and watch the fireworks. X| BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Stopping how? action, not words. My point is that if the UN takes itself seriously, and the majority of the Security Council seriously objects to US invasion of Iraq, then why are they sitting around with their collective thumbs up their asses? My God, stand up for your precious UN, men! Deny the evil Americans! Put some muscle behind your words! I'm sure there are some economic measure they could take as well. At least look like you really give a shit. That's all. BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security
The peaceniks are good at griping, if they were good at action SH would have disarmed 12 years ago. The UN is a joke, Sh has been laughing at it for years, but you don't hear the peaceniks complaining about that. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
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The only reason inspections were even started again, after a 4 year lapse, was because the US aimed a gun at SH head. Blix even said yesterday that the cooperation wasn't there from SH. War sucks, but I would rather have it there than to wait til they were to attack us or our allies. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
Doug Goulden wrote: The only reason inspections were even started again, after a 4 year lapse, was because the US aimed a gun at SH head. yes, true. but, they were started again, weren't they? and they were finding things, weren't they? and things were being destroyed, weren't they? so the process was working. what happened, regardless? GWB invaded. this highlights the fact that this war isn't just about WMDs, or UN resolutions; it's also about something entirely different: 'regime change'. IMO, that's a business we have no business being in. but, as i said to brianwelsch: whatever. you got your fucking war. enjoy it while you can. -c
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Jason Henderson wrote: It will happen I guess time will tell. BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security
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Kant wrote: Maybe if the US waited for few more months, I'm tired of this shit.... If everyone was so against this, why didn't they take more drastic measures to stop the US? BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security
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Do you have some divinatory hidden talents? ;)
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