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  • L Lost User

    I bought a Windows Phone about a month ago. I've recently installed Windows 8.1 on my laptop. I've a subscription to Office 365. I've been enjoying how everything works together and I love the live tiles. I'd like to eventually get a Surface Pro 3. I think it is a snazzy little ecosystem. I hate to see Windows Phone not do well - I just don't see what is so wrong with it that it isn't selling better. I guess I think it is a really good product. I don't understand the hate - and the diminishing market share.

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    I'll soon be switching over from Android to WP. Android is way too annoying, it crashes every few hours, voraciusly eats up RAM and it isn't responsive - I managed to lose phone calls because the phone didn't unlock in time (15 seconds to unlock????). And it's a high end phone... Apple isn't for me - I don't like their interfaces, nor their ways of locking your phone as if it is theirs, and it costs way too much for below-par hw specs. And I hate Apple fan boys and iTunes. WP on the other hand... has Nokia as producer and each Nokia phone I had was reliable and functional, and every person I heard with WP would never chang back to Android or Iphone, so that's my choice :thumbsup:

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    • L Lost User

      I bought a Windows Phone about a month ago. I've recently installed Windows 8.1 on my laptop. I've a subscription to Office 365. I've been enjoying how everything works together and I love the live tiles. I'd like to eventually get a Surface Pro 3. I think it is a snazzy little ecosystem. I hate to see Windows Phone not do well - I just don't see what is so wrong with it that it isn't selling better. I guess I think it is a really good product. I don't understand the hate - and the diminishing market share.

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      Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan
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      I totally would like to agree to your concept and your mindset. A few days ago, my girl had to buy a mobile so I suggested her to get a Windows Phone instead of Android, because I really think Windows Phone is a good OS for mobile devices too, although I, myself still have Android. So, she bought Microsoft Lumia 535, which is a great cell phone. But, what stopped me from buying the same mobile phone was their support for third-party applications, or offline installation of applications. I tried to create an application for her mobile phone as a congratulations for her new mobile... but all in vain! They require me to create an account, then upload the app to the market (store what ever they call it) and then it would require her to save the application in the SD card and then store will check for that signature over market and all that kind of thing. Then it will install the app. Wow! That caused me, to stick to Android... I am staying with Android now... So, I would reject your suggestion. Windows Phone is not a good phone for us, the developers! Unless you're Bill Gates of course.

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      • L Lost User

        I bought a Windows Phone about a month ago. I've recently installed Windows 8.1 on my laptop. I've a subscription to Office 365. I've been enjoying how everything works together and I love the live tiles. I'd like to eventually get a Surface Pro 3. I think it is a snazzy little ecosystem. I hate to see Windows Phone not do well - I just don't see what is so wrong with it that it isn't selling better. I guess I think it is a really good product. I don't understand the hate - and the diminishing market share.

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        Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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        The problem with it is that the Microsoft got into the business to cut a share of the money - they do not believe in it and you the customer...The day it will change Window Phone (or other hardware-products) will take their deserved place...

        Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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        • D den2k88

          I'll soon be switching over from Android to WP. Android is way too annoying, it crashes every few hours, voraciusly eats up RAM and it isn't responsive - I managed to lose phone calls because the phone didn't unlock in time (15 seconds to unlock????). And it's a high end phone... Apple isn't for me - I don't like their interfaces, nor their ways of locking your phone as if it is theirs, and it costs way too much for below-par hw specs. And I hate Apple fan boys and iTunes. WP on the other hand... has Nokia as producer and each Nokia phone I had was reliable and functional, and every person I heard with WP would never chang back to Android or Iphone, so that's my choice :thumbsup:

          Geek code v 3.12 GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- r++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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          OriginalGriff
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          Erm...my tablet is two years old, and Android. My phone is a few months old, and Android. Neither of them has ever crashed. The phone unlocks in no time at all. My PC crashes more often than my Android devices! :laugh:

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          • G gardnerp

            Hello, Android user here. I have a Windows phone at work. It doesn't have service, I just develop on it occasionally. And I like it a lot. It's years ahead of Apple's design in my opinion. So why do I use Android personally? Because I am completely stuck in their ecosystem. 'Stuck' may be a bad word as I like their products. But I use GMail, Calendar, Music (I pay for this), Drive (I pay for extra storage), Docs, Sheets, YouTube, Hangouts, Books, Photos (every photo I've ever taken I have uploaded), and Voice. Almost all of those daily. In fact, I have NO SMS provider on my phone and solely use Google Voice/Hangouts for SMS/MMS. Microsoft can't offer this. And as always they were years late introducing their phone (and tablets). Yeah it's nice, but it would be a nightmare for me to switch ecosystems at this point.

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            I had a Windows Phone 7 (which was supported up to 7.5 then I was left with an obsolete device), it was that phone that convinced me to move to an iPhone (and begin my gradual switchover to Apple) - after years of resistance :) I hated that I couldn't see how much battery or signal I had without swiping down at the top of the screen all the time, then having it disappear again after a few seconds. Very frustrating when you're trying to send a text from a moving train! I was amazed that the SharePoint app didn't work with SharePoint on Windows 7, that the YouTube app was a link to the mobile website, that I couldn't get all the common apps that my wife was using on her iPhone - basically it was pretty much useless. Added to which it broke after two weeks when it encountered a couple of grains of sand in my pocket. Perhaps on Windows Phone 8 they improved all of this, but by then it was too late for me - and probably quite a few other potential customers.

            How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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            • P PIEBALDconsult

              "One OS to rule them all" is not what most customers want.

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              I doubt your assertion. Given the learning curve for an OS I think most people would want exactly that.

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              • G gardnerp

                Hello, Android user here. I have a Windows phone at work. It doesn't have service, I just develop on it occasionally. And I like it a lot. It's years ahead of Apple's design in my opinion. So why do I use Android personally? Because I am completely stuck in their ecosystem. 'Stuck' may be a bad word as I like their products. But I use GMail, Calendar, Music (I pay for this), Drive (I pay for extra storage), Docs, Sheets, YouTube, Hangouts, Books, Photos (every photo I've ever taken I have uploaded), and Voice. Almost all of those daily. In fact, I have NO SMS provider on my phone and solely use Google Voice/Hangouts for SMS/MMS. Microsoft can't offer this. And as always they were years late introducing their phone (and tablets). Yeah it's nice, but it would be a nightmare for me to switch ecosystems at this point.

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                I bought Office 365 (1) and I get 1 terabyte of storage for each user and all of the Office applications. My Windows account is my login for my computer, email, Office, one drive - and it is all synchronized. I'm sure you've the same available. Anyways, I thought the Office 365 was an excellent deal - especially with all that storage. I guess that applies to the Windows Phone in that the one or two times I needed to see something on my One Drive I could just pop it open and know it would be there. NOTES --------------------------------------------------------- 1: 1 year subscription for 5 people $99.00

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  Erm...my tablet is two years old, and Android. My phone is a few months old, and Android. Neither of them has ever crashed. The phone unlocks in no time at all. My PC crashes more often than my Android devices! :laugh:

                  Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                  Lost User
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                  So you've not turned them on yet, is what you're saying? :-D

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                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                    Erm...my tablet is two years old, and Android. My phone is a few months old, and Android. Neither of them has ever crashed. The phone unlocks in no time at all. My PC crashes more often than my Android devices! :laugh:

                    Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                    den2k88
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                    3 phones, one low-end - to throw away after a few months. Two High-end (over 600 € each) and they lasted as peformant for no more than a year... And they drive me crazy! So I'll try WP.

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                    • L Lost User

                      So you've not turned them on yet, is what you're saying? :-D

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                      Well, I took them out to dinner, and then...

                      Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                      • P PIEBALDconsult

                        "One OS to rule them all" is not what most customers want.

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                        Vivi Chellappa
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                        PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                        "One OS to rule them all" is not what most customers want.

                        Explain iOS to me then.

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                        • L Lost User

                          I bought a Windows Phone about a month ago. I've recently installed Windows 8.1 on my laptop. I've a subscription to Office 365. I've been enjoying how everything works together and I love the live tiles. I'd like to eventually get a Surface Pro 3. I think it is a snazzy little ecosystem. I hate to see Windows Phone not do well - I just don't see what is so wrong with it that it isn't selling better. I guess I think it is a really good product. I don't understand the hate - and the diminishing market share.

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                          The smart phone OS market already has 2 hugely successful platforms that dominate market share and mind share - in order for a new platform to gain any real traction it needs to leapfrog the older platforms by a significant margin. It can't just be equal or even a little bit better.

                          Contrary to popular belief, nobody owes you anything.

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                          • V Vivi Chellappa

                            PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                            "One OS to rule them all" is not what most customers want.

                            Explain iOS to me then.

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                            I'll translate PIEBALDconsult's post for you: "I'm an Apple fanboi. When they do stuff it is awesome; however, when Microsoft does it then it is doody-headed. [insert fart noises]" ^---- PIEBALDconsult will claim that is a mis-translation but you shouldn't believe his lies. I'm glad I could help. If you need any other posts translated just ask.

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                            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                              Well, I took them out to dinner, and then...

                              Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                              It will take me the better part of the day to get that out of my head.

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                              • L Lost User

                                I bought a Windows Phone about a month ago. I've recently installed Windows 8.1 on my laptop. I've a subscription to Office 365. I've been enjoying how everything works together and I love the live tiles. I'd like to eventually get a Surface Pro 3. I think it is a snazzy little ecosystem. I hate to see Windows Phone not do well - I just don't see what is so wrong with it that it isn't selling better. I guess I think it is a really good product. I don't understand the hate - and the diminishing market share.

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                                I've had a WP for about a year and a half and have no complaints. This is my first smartphone so I have nothing to compare it against. I originally got it so I would have the option to develop for WP, which hasn't happened yet. My carrier just released the 8.1 upgrade a few weeks ago, which has some really nice features. I also use the Office 365, but don't find it to be that practical to use on a phone. I have yet to find a use for the much touted Cortana. I agree that it is a really good product. As for market share, it probably has a lot to do with the number of available apps. :)

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                                • L Lost User

                                  It will take me the better part of the day to get that out of my head.

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                                  OriginalGriff
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                                  My work here is done...

                                  Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                                  • L Lost User

                                    I bought a Windows Phone about a month ago. I've recently installed Windows 8.1 on my laptop. I've a subscription to Office 365. I've been enjoying how everything works together and I love the live tiles. I'd like to eventually get a Surface Pro 3. I think it is a snazzy little ecosystem. I hate to see Windows Phone not do well - I just don't see what is so wrong with it that it isn't selling better. I guess I think it is a really good product. I don't understand the hate - and the diminishing market share.

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                                    It's mainly the lack of apps. Whenever a company says they have mobile apps, that usually means Apple and Android.

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                                    • L Lost User

                                      I bought a Windows Phone about a month ago. I've recently installed Windows 8.1 on my laptop. I've a subscription to Office 365. I've been enjoying how everything works together and I love the live tiles. I'd like to eventually get a Surface Pro 3. I think it is a snazzy little ecosystem. I hate to see Windows Phone not do well - I just don't see what is so wrong with it that it isn't selling better. I guess I think it is a really good product. I don't understand the hate - and the diminishing market share.

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                                      I don't have a cell phone. I used to have, but I found I'd keep forgetting it, forgetting to charge it and the only time I used it was to phone home to get wifey to put the kettle on. Since we now work at the same place .... Anyway, I don't think I have an axe to grind. However, my wife has had a Windows phone for years now and absolutely loves it. We have friends and family with iPhones and Android devices. Unless you are hooked in to the corresponding environments I can see no great advantage in either of these (with price and longevity being questionable with Apple). Windows had a big advantage for my wife as we are Windows at home and work and she makes extensive use of Office. So I agree, it's a mystery to me why it has not caught on. To say that MS is not serious about it or that they aren't good at it is a mystery too as WP is at least as good as any of the others. Humans are very good at reinforcing our own preconceptions, we tend to latch on to half-truths and lies that support our world view. It seems that WP may disappear, like Betamax, for no other reason than it was in last place.

                                      Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                                      • V Vivi Chellappa

                                        PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                        "One OS to rule them all" is not what most customers want.

                                        Explain iOS to me then.

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                                        OriginalGriff
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                                        iOS doesn't run their lappies, does it? Isn't that Mac OS X? I thought that was different? But iOS runs on tablets, and phones, just like Android does. And no, I'm not an Apple fanbois: they sell overpriced, over hyped tat.

                                        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                                        • V Vivi Chellappa

                                          PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                          "One OS to rule them all" is not what most customers want.

                                          Explain iOS to me then.

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                                          How's their market share looking? :-D

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