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Windows Phone Sales Make Me Sad

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  • L Lost User

    In my opinion, the big problem is that Microsoft don't believe in it. The only reason they've come up with the Windows Phone is to try and cash in on the mobile market. I'm sure that they'll drop it eventually (they have a long record of dropping projects) and focus on tools for mobile app development by buying Xamarin. That's where they should be really, software, unless they're making high-end seamless systems (which Windows Phone, Windows 8/8.1/RT, Surface (again, in my opinion) aren't).

    How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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    Jfid
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    I've been around the block with every phone from Blackberry to IPhone to Android to Winphone back to IPhone and Back to WinPhone. I love WinPhone! For me it is the ultimate device, except you can't run ITunes on it. That seems to be how Apple snared in the young people. My kids started with Ipods and worked up to Iphones...the music library came with them. Getting the Iphone people to switch to winPhone would be the same as asking someone to get rid of their albums/CDs and migrate to a streaming music library (most would recoil at the thought)!

    :JeffF:

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    • P Peter Adam

      YouTube app? That was only how Google greeted the newcomer[^].

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      Lost User
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      It looks like Google was miffed about the lawsuits slapped on it by Microsoft. I would have thought that Microsoft might have been able to pay Google to develop a version for Windows Phone, although I'd imagine the price would have been steep. It still would have probably been worth the price anyway. It's crap when things you've done to others come back to bite you on your backside :doh: Windows Phone currently has that familiar feeling around it that many Microsoft products (even some good ones) have had shortly before they're dropped.

      How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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      • V Vark111

        I'm enjoying my Windows phone as well, but for different reasons. Boss: "How come you didn't get that email I sent at 10PM last night?" Me: "I asked IT to get me hooked up with the BYOD policy, but they don't support my phone OS, sorry." :)

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        Victor Hugo Lara Santillan
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        I think WP is better in business environments, in my last 2 jobs, I didn't need to ask for Access to remote email or SharePoint sites, just added the Outlook account and WP discovered the servers and settings. iPhone and Android needed IT assistance.

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        • D den2k88

          I'll soon be switching over from Android to WP. Android is way too annoying, it crashes every few hours, voraciusly eats up RAM and it isn't responsive - I managed to lose phone calls because the phone didn't unlock in time (15 seconds to unlock????). And it's a high end phone... Apple isn't for me - I don't like their interfaces, nor their ways of locking your phone as if it is theirs, and it costs way too much for below-par hw specs. And I hate Apple fan boys and iTunes. WP on the other hand... has Nokia as producer and each Nokia phone I had was reliable and functional, and every person I heard with WP would never chang back to Android or Iphone, so that's my choice :thumbsup:

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          Victor Hugo Lara Santillan
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          Totally agree, my first Smartphone was an android, and I really hated that, I throw it to trash before 3 weeks, I missed all incoming calls, and the store is full of useless apps. I actually have WP, and all my family gradually changed to it. It can control my entertainment systems (Xbox 360 and Xbox One), Cortana is awesome, and in the job is the best tool. Just a funny story, last week my wife's family lost when coming to home for new year holiday, they have android and apple devices, and they can't find the address in gps, WP with Here Drive comes to the rescue.

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          • K kiLLe_512

            You have no idea what you are saying. If you had said account, you could register the device as a development device and simply deploy to it for "testing". Same as Android, although they do not force you to get an account to deploy to a device afaik.

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            Victor Hugo Lara Santillan
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            Agree, I have 4 apps developed by me in my own WP phone, I didn't need to install, just debug directly on phone, and then there is.

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            • C Clodetta del Mar

              I am absolutely with you! i can´t see why People are bashing Windows 8.x i guess, it´s some sort of "i am against everything MS developed " or "i am against Technology x, although i have no idea of it, because i´m using y...." :doh: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: IMHO Win8.1 is the "highest-performance" OS Ms developed so far. Just my opinion... ;)

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              Victor Hugo Lara Santillan
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              And apple people don't remember when they were begging Bill Gates to rescue their company. And now they believe they invented smartphones (I remeber using a treo with Windows mobile). I think one of the most important facts is the hipster era, I'm developer, and at work, they believe they are the genius of programming because some of then can use Excel to make reports, or auto-name them videogamers because play candy crush in their phones. You can sell them vegetables soup at $2, or name it potage aux légumes (french name) at the cost of $5. :)

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              • L Lost User

                First of all, they didn't kill off Navigator by making IE free - after all, Navigator was free as well. They killed it by bundling IE within Windows. Secondly, Android and iOS are already free.

                Contrary to popular belief, nobody owes you anything.

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                Pierre Leclercq
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                In this computer world dated july 1995 : https://books.google.fr/books?id=aEpNXuyUcfoC&pg=PT99&lpg=PT99&dq=computerworld+netscape+navigator+box+price&source=bl&ots=yWV9Wvn9DJ&sig=GQSCpCCup-LJRVjwMiyU9RfRGbM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=-iexVNKvBIWy7Qb9moCwCA&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=computerworld%20netscape%20navigator%20box%20price&f=false[^] You can read Netscape Navigator Personal edition was costing $39.95 Also Netscape made some good money. Jim Clark, Netscape co-founder invested $5 million, then earned $2 billions out of it. See there : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_H._Clark[^] Netscape Navigator went free eventually, as IE was catching up. More on the browser wars here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browser_wars[^]

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                • P Pierre Leclercq

                  In this computer world dated july 1995 : https://books.google.fr/books?id=aEpNXuyUcfoC&pg=PT99&lpg=PT99&dq=computerworld+netscape+navigator+box+price&source=bl&ots=yWV9Wvn9DJ&sig=GQSCpCCup-LJRVjwMiyU9RfRGbM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=-iexVNKvBIWy7Qb9moCwCA&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=computerworld%20netscape%20navigator%20box%20price&f=false[^] You can read Netscape Navigator Personal edition was costing $39.95 Also Netscape made some good money. Jim Clark, Netscape co-founder invested $5 million, then earned $2 billions out of it. See there : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_H._Clark[^] Netscape Navigator went free eventually, as IE was catching up. More on the browser wars here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browser_wars[^]

                  http://www.BareImagesToolbox.com

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                  Lost User
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                  Pierre Leclercq wrote:

                  You can read Netscape Navigator Personal edition was costing $39.95

                  Interesting... I didn't remember that. Thanks! I think my original point still stands though. Microsoft needs to make a profit to survive and can't do it simply by giving away the OS unless they make money on the hardware (Apple) or the backend (Google) and there are already established leaders in both camps so they have to leapfrog one or both in some important area(s) to gain market share.

                  Contrary to popular belief, nobody owes you anything.

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                  • L Lost User

                    I bought a Windows Phone about a month ago. I've recently installed Windows 8.1 on my laptop. I've a subscription to Office 365. I've been enjoying how everything works together and I love the live tiles. I'd like to eventually get a Surface Pro 3. I think it is a snazzy little ecosystem. I hate to see Windows Phone not do well - I just don't see what is so wrong with it that it isn't selling better. I guess I think it is a really good product. I don't understand the hate - and the diminishing market share.

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                    Yortw
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                    I totally agree about WP. 100%. I want to like Win8, but it's like the Windows team looked at WP and asked, "How can we turn this into a bad idea?". It's got nothing to do with m&k vs touch etc. or one OS to rule them all. It's simple stuff like the horizontal scrolling on W8 being pixel perfect scrolling rather than pages like it is in a WP pivot/panorama. Little things like that, not to mention the crap in the app store and the limited/broken API's in WinRT. I also tend to find a lot of things don't, "just work together" the way I way I expect (or at all), but it is certainly nice when they do. Certainly as far as phone goes I don't get the hate or diminishing market share either. I love WP and everytime I try to use iOS I find it confusing and horrible (which must make me the dumbest person on the planet because apparently there has never been anything so "user friendly" and "intuitive" before).

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                    • G gardnerp

                      Hello, Android user here. I have a Windows phone at work. It doesn't have service, I just develop on it occasionally. And I like it a lot. It's years ahead of Apple's design in my opinion. So why do I use Android personally? Because I am completely stuck in their ecosystem. 'Stuck' may be a bad word as I like their products. But I use GMail, Calendar, Music (I pay for this), Drive (I pay for extra storage), Docs, Sheets, YouTube, Hangouts, Books, Photos (every photo I've ever taken I have uploaded), and Voice. Almost all of those daily. In fact, I have NO SMS provider on my phone and solely use Google Voice/Hangouts for SMS/MMS. Microsoft can't offer this. And as always they were years late introducing their phone (and tablets). Yeah it's nice, but it would be a nightmare for me to switch ecosystems at this point.

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                      SergheiT
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                      Nothing really holds you to switch to MS Outlook. You will have Outlook, calendar, address book that is linked to LinkedIn, Skype, Facebook, Twitter. You can easily upload pictures and any documents into OneDrive. You also will have Xbox games. Plus you can use Reading List application to create bookmarks and access them from any Windows devices. Music service is available too. The list is going to be very long to continue... In my opinion, the Windows Phone is being hardly accepted at consumer level simply because of bad marketing and lack of device selection. Go to any mobile store here in Canada and you will hardly find any Windows Phone devices. Ask any sale person what services are available from Windows Phone platform - they do not know. Ask advice what to buy - the answer is Apple or Android. Plus ask your IT for BYOD - most corporations does not support WP.

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