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    To keep it short, I downloaded the VS 2013 Community ISO with the intention of burning to a DVD for my dad, who I'm driving to see in a couple of days, and who recently expressed a desire to try some hobby programming. I should have checked the size of the thing first, but it was on my laptop, and it was not on my bandwidth, and besides, I've done this before, and never had an issue. 5 hours later, the download finished and I now had a behemoth 6.9GB file sitting on my desktop! :wtf: Really? WTE have they packaged into this thing? (I did a search, but my google foo has failed) Well, that'll never fit on a DVD...time to get out the 16 GB (practically empty) flash drive...and fail! 'the file is too large for the destination file system' :wtf: This maybe an excuse to get a bigger flash drive, but still, does anyone else consider 6.88GB to be bloated?

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      To keep it short, I downloaded the VS 2013 Community ISO with the intention of burning to a DVD for my dad, who I'm driving to see in a couple of days, and who recently expressed a desire to try some hobby programming. I should have checked the size of the thing first, but it was on my laptop, and it was not on my bandwidth, and besides, I've done this before, and never had an issue. 5 hours later, the download finished and I now had a behemoth 6.9GB file sitting on my desktop! :wtf: Really? WTE have they packaged into this thing? (I did a search, but my google foo has failed) Well, that'll never fit on a DVD...time to get out the 16 GB (practically empty) flash drive...and fail! 'the file is too large for the destination file system' :wtf: This maybe an excuse to get a bigger flash drive, but still, does anyone else consider 6.88GB to be bloated?

      "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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      the file is too large for the destination file system

      Time to change the filesystem. :-D

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        To keep it short, I downloaded the VS 2013 Community ISO with the intention of burning to a DVD for my dad, who I'm driving to see in a couple of days, and who recently expressed a desire to try some hobby programming. I should have checked the size of the thing first, but it was on my laptop, and it was not on my bandwidth, and besides, I've done this before, and never had an issue. 5 hours later, the download finished and I now had a behemoth 6.9GB file sitting on my desktop! :wtf: Really? WTE have they packaged into this thing? (I did a search, but my google foo has failed) Well, that'll never fit on a DVD...time to get out the 16 GB (practically empty) flash drive...and fail! 'the file is too large for the destination file system' :wtf: This maybe an excuse to get a bigger flash drive, but still, does anyone else consider 6.88GB to be bloated?

        "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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        Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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        Hm, hm... On the download page it is clearly stated that you are going to download a DVD9-sized image...

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          To keep it short, I downloaded the VS 2013 Community ISO with the intention of burning to a DVD for my dad, who I'm driving to see in a couple of days, and who recently expressed a desire to try some hobby programming. I should have checked the size of the thing first, but it was on my laptop, and it was not on my bandwidth, and besides, I've done this before, and never had an issue. 5 hours later, the download finished and I now had a behemoth 6.9GB file sitting on my desktop! :wtf: Really? WTE have they packaged into this thing? (I did a search, but my google foo has failed) Well, that'll never fit on a DVD...time to get out the 16 GB (practically empty) flash drive...and fail! 'the file is too large for the destination file system' :wtf: This maybe an excuse to get a bigger flash drive, but still, does anyone else consider 6.88GB to be bloated?

          "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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          kmoorevs wrote:

          'the file is too large for the destination file system'

          Which probably means the flash drive is formatted FAT32 - so the maximum file size is 4GB. Reformat it to NTFS and the problem should go away.

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            Hm, hm... On the download page it is clearly stated that you are going to download a DVD9-sized image...

            Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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            You are a wise man Kornfeld! Of course I failed to read the instructions! :doh: Now, where did I put those DVD9s? :laugh:

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              To keep it short, I downloaded the VS 2013 Community ISO with the intention of burning to a DVD for my dad, who I'm driving to see in a couple of days, and who recently expressed a desire to try some hobby programming. I should have checked the size of the thing first, but it was on my laptop, and it was not on my bandwidth, and besides, I've done this before, and never had an issue. 5 hours later, the download finished and I now had a behemoth 6.9GB file sitting on my desktop! :wtf: Really? WTE have they packaged into this thing? (I did a search, but my google foo has failed) Well, that'll never fit on a DVD...time to get out the 16 GB (practically empty) flash drive...and fail! 'the file is too large for the destination file system' :wtf: This maybe an excuse to get a bigger flash drive, but still, does anyone else consider 6.88GB to be bloated?

              "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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              kmoorevs wrote:

              does anyone else consider 6.88GB to be bloated?

              Yes

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                To keep it short, I downloaded the VS 2013 Community ISO with the intention of burning to a DVD for my dad, who I'm driving to see in a couple of days, and who recently expressed a desire to try some hobby programming. I should have checked the size of the thing first, but it was on my laptop, and it was not on my bandwidth, and besides, I've done this before, and never had an issue. 5 hours later, the download finished and I now had a behemoth 6.9GB file sitting on my desktop! :wtf: Really? WTE have they packaged into this thing? (I did a search, but my google foo has failed) Well, that'll never fit on a DVD...time to get out the 16 GB (practically empty) flash drive...and fail! 'the file is too large for the destination file system' :wtf: This maybe an excuse to get a bigger flash drive, but still, does anyone else consider 6.88GB to be bloated?

                "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                It'll fit a dual-layer DVD, no bother.

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                  You are a wise man Kornfeld! Of course I failed to read the instructions! :doh: Now, where did I put those DVD9s? :laugh:

                  "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                  You can split them with Zip to 1GB (for example) files with Store method (should be copy basically - quick). Copy them, the FAT-32 limit for one file should not be exceeded this way. And then extract them on target computer with Zip again (it should automatically detect spanned archives). :rolleyes: Source: I was a gamer in 90's. Exchange 16GB flash drive with 1.44MB diskette and you have it.

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                    It'll fit a dual-layer DVD, no bother.

                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                    kmoorevs
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                    Thanks, but I've already reformatted the flash drive to NTFS and watching the copy nearing completion. I have no dual-layer DVD as I've never needed one before. I suppose there must be a downside to NTFS on a flash drive...probably won't work with '98 or something! :laugh:

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                      To keep it short, I downloaded the VS 2013 Community ISO with the intention of burning to a DVD for my dad, who I'm driving to see in a couple of days, and who recently expressed a desire to try some hobby programming. I should have checked the size of the thing first, but it was on my laptop, and it was not on my bandwidth, and besides, I've done this before, and never had an issue. 5 hours later, the download finished and I now had a behemoth 6.9GB file sitting on my desktop! :wtf: Really? WTE have they packaged into this thing? (I did a search, but my google foo has failed) Well, that'll never fit on a DVD...time to get out the 16 GB (practically empty) flash drive...and fail! 'the file is too large for the destination file system' :wtf: This maybe an excuse to get a bigger flash drive, but still, does anyone else consider 6.88GB to be bloated?

                      "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                      kmoorevs wrote:

                      does anyone else consider 6.88GB to be bloated?

                      No, not compared to the 40 GB download required for the latest installment of "Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare"

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                        kmoorevs wrote:

                        does anyone else consider 6.88GB to be bloated?

                        No, not compared to the 40 GB download required for the latest installment of "Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare"

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                        Jeremy Falcon
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                        A typical game is extremely graphic and audio and video heavy though. That's to be expected. Not sure what they could possibly have 7GB worth of for VS.

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                          To keep it short, I downloaded the VS 2013 Community ISO with the intention of burning to a DVD for my dad, who I'm driving to see in a couple of days, and who recently expressed a desire to try some hobby programming. I should have checked the size of the thing first, but it was on my laptop, and it was not on my bandwidth, and besides, I've done this before, and never had an issue. 5 hours later, the download finished and I now had a behemoth 6.9GB file sitting on my desktop! :wtf: Really? WTE have they packaged into this thing? (I did a search, but my google foo has failed) Well, that'll never fit on a DVD...time to get out the 16 GB (practically empty) flash drive...and fail! 'the file is too large for the destination file system' :wtf: This maybe an excuse to get a bigger flash drive, but still, does anyone else consider 6.88GB to be bloated?

                          "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                          Just checked the ISO for VS 2013 Ultimate x86 English and it's only 2.81 GB total. That seems reasonable. Not sure what the extra 4GB is for Community. Maybe it's a sh*tload of training videos.

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                            To keep it short, I downloaded the VS 2013 Community ISO with the intention of burning to a DVD for my dad, who I'm driving to see in a couple of days, and who recently expressed a desire to try some hobby programming. I should have checked the size of the thing first, but it was on my laptop, and it was not on my bandwidth, and besides, I've done this before, and never had an issue. 5 hours later, the download finished and I now had a behemoth 6.9GB file sitting on my desktop! :wtf: Really? WTE have they packaged into this thing? (I did a search, but my google foo has failed) Well, that'll never fit on a DVD...time to get out the 16 GB (practically empty) flash drive...and fail! 'the file is too large for the destination file system' :wtf: This maybe an excuse to get a bigger flash drive, but still, does anyone else consider 6.88GB to be bloated?

                            "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                            That is huge... Why doesn't he start to learn with gcc/g++? ...I would think that's a better place to start that with a big IDE. If you browse the questions (relating to the VS) on this website, a lot of them are due to people not understanding what the IDE is doing for them. Anywho, that is huge... but I guess people have little incentive to make packages small with storage getting cheaper.

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                              kmoorevs wrote:

                              does anyone else consider 6.88GB to be bloated?

                              No, not compared to the 40 GB download required for the latest installment of "Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare"

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                              Paul M Watt wrote:

                              40 GB download

                              :omg: I'm not a gamer, but I did help a friend who needed my high-speed connection to get some humongous patch (similar size) for WoW a few years ago. (which I think I posted about)

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                                kmoorevs wrote:

                                does anyone else consider 6.88GB to be bloated?

                                No, not compared to the 40 GB download required for the latest installment of "Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare"

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                                Priorities, Laddie, priorities.

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                                  Just checked the ISO for VS 2013 Ultimate x86 English and it's only 2.81 GB total. That seems reasonable. Not sure what the extra 4GB is for Community. Maybe it's a sh*tload of training videos.

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                                  Albert Holguin
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                                  That's what I was going to suggest... maybe it has the entire documentation on the ISO (which you don't need if you're online).

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                                    To keep it short, I downloaded the VS 2013 Community ISO with the intention of burning to a DVD for my dad, who I'm driving to see in a couple of days, and who recently expressed a desire to try some hobby programming. I should have checked the size of the thing first, but it was on my laptop, and it was not on my bandwidth, and besides, I've done this before, and never had an issue. 5 hours later, the download finished and I now had a behemoth 6.9GB file sitting on my desktop! :wtf: Really? WTE have they packaged into this thing? (I did a search, but my google foo has failed) Well, that'll never fit on a DVD...time to get out the 16 GB (practically empty) flash drive...and fail! 'the file is too large for the destination file system' :wtf: This maybe an excuse to get a bigger flash drive, but still, does anyone else consider 6.88GB to be bloated?

                                    "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                                    kmoorevs wrote:

                                    WTE have they packaged into this thing?

                                    A LOT. Now, I do have some hobby-projects at home but those are being built using SharpDevelop. One can run that from USB, it's light and pretty quick. ..because at home I do not need a state-of-the-art IDE; there's no TFS to integrate, no IIS to contact, no EF6 nor MMMVC9 in my projects. All that's required there is some simple way of building, some syntax highligting and that's about it. MonoDevelop would even do the trick :)

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                                      That's what I was going to suggest... maybe it has the entire documentation on the ISO (which you don't need if you're online).

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                                      Yeah, and if it's aimed for beginners / hobbyists that don't know any better, I could see that making since to include it in an all-in-one type of install.

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                                        kmoorevs wrote:

                                        WTE have they packaged into this thing?

                                        A LOT. Now, I do have some hobby-projects at home but those are being built using SharpDevelop. One can run that from USB, it's light and pretty quick. ..because at home I do not need a state-of-the-art IDE; there's no TFS to integrate, no IIS to contact, no EF6 nor MMMVC9 in my projects. All that's required there is some simple way of building, some syntax highligting and that's about it. MonoDevelop would even do the trick :)

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                                        Yeah man, we're getting too convoluted for our good. Thar be genius and elegance in simplicity. I hoping it's a lot of docs shipped with it. The thought of using 35 different frameworks for Hello World seems rather daunting.

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                                          That is huge... Why doesn't he start to learn with gcc/g++? ...I would think that's a better place to start that with a big IDE. If you browse the questions (relating to the VS) on this website, a lot of them are due to people not understanding what the IDE is doing for them. Anywho, that is huge... but I guess people have little incentive to make packages small with storage getting cheaper.

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                                          Albert Holguin wrote:

                                          Why doesn't he start to learn with gcc/g++?

                                          He actually asked about C since that was the last language that he worked with back in the late 80's, so I was really targeting the c++ feature...then figured, wte, he has a new computer with more space and horsepower than he'll ever need, so just install everything, and this seemed to fit the bill.

                                          Albert Holguin wrote:

                                          people have little incentive to make packages small with storage getting cheaper

                                          Very true!, add 'unlimited bandwidth' to the mix.

                                          "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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