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Objective, but how subjective?

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  • L Lost User

    New here. Just curious about how: - A member gets designated as Professional, - A member gets awarded as MVP. Seeing individuals who have around 10,000 points having the "Professional" icon next to their names; whereas I see others having more than three times those points as ordinary members. Also, saw the recent episode involving an MVP. If someone aspires to become a Professional, and ultimately an MVP (perhaps a 5-year plan or 10-years?), is there a designated path (straightforward, difficult, involving quite some effort), for that? Saw this[^], and a few other pages, but not sure if I found something. If there is, please point out. Brings me back to the title - is there any element of subjectivity here?

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    Mark_Wallace
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    I don't know what the specific definition of "professional" is, because I imagine that most members are professionals, out in the real world. In order to be an MVP, though, I would imagine that your contributions would have to be valuable (hence the "V"), so that excludes me and my 120k points, because I only hang around the Lounge, and that doesn't exactly serve any useful purpose.

    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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    • L Lost User

      New here. Just curious about how: - A member gets designated as Professional, - A member gets awarded as MVP. Seeing individuals who have around 10,000 points having the "Professional" icon next to their names; whereas I see others having more than three times those points as ordinary members. Also, saw the recent episode involving an MVP. If someone aspires to become a Professional, and ultimately an MVP (perhaps a 5-year plan or 10-years?), is there a designated path (straightforward, difficult, involving quite some effort), for that? Saw this[^], and a few other pages, but not sure if I found something. If there is, please point out. Brings me back to the title - is there any element of subjectivity here?

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      Lost User
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      Thanks for all your replies. So, a 'Professional' is one does not hide his/her contact details from CodeProject. However, regarding subjectivity for MVP, any comment? Because somehow got the feeling that the 'momentum' from previous years sometimes continues into someone retaining their MVP status. Am I correct?

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      • L Lost User

        Thanks for all your replies. So, a 'Professional' is one does not hide his/her contact details from CodeProject. However, regarding subjectivity for MVP, any comment? Because somehow got the feeling that the 'momentum' from previous years sometimes continues into someone retaining their MVP status. Am I correct?

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        Pete OHanlon
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        No, it doesn't. Ultimately, it all comes down to activity. Last year, a couple of authors kept their MVP status despite not having posted anything new because their articles still saw a huge amount of activity. Their articles still added value - a lot of it, and so they were rightly awarded MVP.

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        • P Pete OHanlon

          No, it doesn't. Ultimately, it all comes down to activity. Last year, a couple of authors kept their MVP status despite not having posted anything new because their articles still saw a huge amount of activity. Their articles still added value - a lot of it, and so they were rightly awarded MVP.

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          Chris Maunder
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          Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

          Last year, a couple of authors kept their MVP status despite not having posted anything new

          We changed it this year to enforce the rule that Article MVPs must have posted at least 3 articles in the previous year.

          cheers Chris Maunder

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          • L Lost User

            New here. Just curious about how: - A member gets designated as Professional, - A member gets awarded as MVP. Seeing individuals who have around 10,000 points having the "Professional" icon next to their names; whereas I see others having more than three times those points as ordinary members. Also, saw the recent episode involving an MVP. If someone aspires to become a Professional, and ultimately an MVP (perhaps a 5-year plan or 10-years?), is there a designated path (straightforward, difficult, involving quite some effort), for that? Saw this[^], and a few other pages, but not sure if I found something. If there is, please point out. Brings me back to the title - is there any element of subjectivity here?

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            Chris Maunder
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            Other's have answered as to how members get Professional status. It's open to anyone. MVP status is awarded once a year and is based solely on the points accrued by a member from the previous year. The award is given to 40 people: 20 for their articles, 20 for their contributions to answering questions. For those awarded for their authoring, they must have posted at least 3 articles in the previous year.

            cheers Chris Maunder

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            • C Chris Maunder

              Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

              Last year, a couple of authors kept their MVP status despite not having posted anything new

              We changed it this year to enforce the rule that Article MVPs must have posted at least 3 articles in the previous year.

              cheers Chris Maunder

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              Pete OHanlon
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              That's a shame - I admired the fact that we were awarding to people who were still giving even though they were no longer as active.

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                That's a shame - I admired the fact that we were awarding to people who were still giving even though they were no longer as active.

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                Chris Maunder
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                The issue is that I could still be in contention for MVP status yet I haven't posted anywhere near the level of stuff that some of our newer authors have. The other option was to only count points against articles posted in the last 2-3 years.

                cheers Chris Maunder

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                • C Chris Maunder

                  The issue is that I could still be in contention for MVP status yet I haven't posted anywhere near the level of stuff that some of our newer authors have. The other option was to only count points against articles posted in the last 2-3 years.

                  cheers Chris Maunder

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                  Pete OHanlon
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                  The other option, of course, is for the Maunder to come out of retirement and be an article machine again.

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                  • P Pete OHanlon

                    The other option, of course, is for the Maunder to come out of retirement and be an article machine again.

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                    Chris Maunder
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                    I feel I'm being baited :)

                    cheers Chris Maunder

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                    • C Chris Maunder

                      I feel I'm being baited :)

                      cheers Chris Maunder

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                      Pete OHanlon
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                      To quote Sammy Davis Jr. "Wood eye?"

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                      • C Chris Maunder

                        Other's have answered as to how members get Professional status. It's open to anyone. MVP status is awarded once a year and is based solely on the points accrued by a member from the previous year. The award is given to 40 people: 20 for their articles, 20 for their contributions to answering questions. For those awarded for their authoring, they must have posted at least 3 articles in the previous year.

                        cheers Chris Maunder

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                        Nish Nishant
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                        Slightly off-topic but the staff and professional icons are a little too similar.

                        Regards, Nish


                        Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                        • C Chris Maunder

                          Other's have answered as to how members get Professional status. It's open to anyone. MVP status is awarded once a year and is based solely on the points accrued by a member from the previous year. The award is given to 40 people: 20 for their articles, 20 for their contributions to answering questions. For those awarded for their authoring, they must have posted at least 3 articles in the previous year.

                          cheers Chris Maunder

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                          Lost User
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                          Feeling so honored (and humbled too!) to get a reply from Chris himself. Thanks Chris for this. :thumbsup:

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                          • N Nish Nishant

                            Slightly off-topic but the staff and professional icons are a little too similar.

                            Regards, Nish


                            Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                            Pete OHanlon
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                            Are you saying the staff aren't professional?

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                            • P Pete OHanlon

                              Are you saying the staff aren't professional?

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                              Nish Nishant
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                              Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                              Are you saying the staff aren't professional?

                              Well, if you are implying that someone here's using their staff in a professional manner, I am sure I'd like to be spared the details. :rolleyes:

                              Regards, Nish


                              Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                              • L Lost User

                                Feeling so honored (and humbled too!) to get a reply from Chris himself. Thanks Chris for this. :thumbsup:

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                                Nish Nishant
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                                He's posted over 30,000 messages here. One'd think that'd sorta lessen the impressiveness of his responses. Somehow he manages to keep his value high. :-D

                                Regards, Nish


                                Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                • N Nish Nishant

                                  Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                                  Are you saying the staff aren't professional?

                                  Well, if you are implying that someone here's using their staff in a professional manner, I am sure I'd like to be spared the details. :rolleyes:

                                  Regards, Nish


                                  Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                  Pete OHanlon
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                                  It's that Mankini. It slips apparently.

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                                  • L Lost User

                                    Feeling so honored (and humbled too!) to get a reply from Chris himself. Thanks Chris for this. :thumbsup:

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                                    Rage
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                                    In my utter modesty, I think I am to blame for that[^].

                                    ~RaGE();

                                    I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                                    • N Nagy Vilmos

                                      I disagree, he got an MVP this year again.

                                      veni bibi saltavi

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                                      Mycroft Holmes
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                                      Yeah but you have to admit he does put in the effort, irritating as he may be he tends not to be outright rude, unlike some of us!

                                      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                      • C Chris Maunder

                                        Other's have answered as to how members get Professional status. It's open to anyone. MVP status is awarded once a year and is based solely on the points accrued by a member from the previous year. The award is given to 40 people: 20 for their articles, 20 for their contributions to answering questions. For those awarded for their authoring, they must have posted at least 3 articles in the previous year.

                                        cheers Chris Maunder

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                                        Rage
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                                        Chris Maunder wrote:

                                        is based solely on the points accrued by a member from the previous year

                                        So good organisers do not have the possibility to be an MVP ? Article moderation or Q&A edition are also contributing a lot to the site content.

                                        Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                                          Chris Maunder wrote:

                                          is based solely on the points accrued by a member from the previous year

                                          So good organisers do not have the possibility to be an MVP ? Article moderation or Q&A edition are also contributing a lot to the site content.

                                          Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                                          Chris Maunder
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                                          Excellent point, and one I've been trying to decide how to tackle. My goal is to expand (dramatically) the ability of members to organise the content. Reorganising, re-tagging, re-editing, flagging etc. This would then result in more opportunities for points and bonuses and would then allow us to provide either an MVP or a new category of special status. Writing content is one thing, but surfacing the good stuff is really, really important.

                                          cheers Chris Maunder

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