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  • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

    Mark_Wallace wrote:

    Alba creature

    She's not that bad...

    Mark_Wallace wrote:

    Marvel Studios

    Don't see this as a postive or negative.

    Mark_Wallace wrote:

    Days of Utter Garbage

    Meh. Never saw the movie.

    Mark_Wallace wrote:

    Conceptually, it doesn't look anything like the Fantastic Four -- it should be more Jetsons than Dark Knight

    So? It's a movie, meant to entertain.

    Mark_Wallace wrote:

    token blacks

    Yeah. People should get the job because they, well, deserve it, not because of the color of skin. But, if you've got two people of more-or-less equal talent, I don't see any problem giving a leg-up to someone of a group who've been discriminated against...

    Mark_Wallace wrote:

    Hollywood ain't a place that gets things right the second time around

    Or the first... or any other time...

    If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
    You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
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    TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote:

    I don't see any problem giving a leg-up to someone of a group who've been discriminated against...

    Positive discrimination, by definition, is still discrimination!!

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      TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote:

      Looking forward to it.

      Why? The first two sucked.

      Jeremy Falcon

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      Lost User
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      3rd time lucky? (I haven't seen them 'cause they looked crap)

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      • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

        Trailer[^] Looks good. Looking forward to it.

        If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
        You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
        Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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        thatraja
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        I hate (very quick)reboots like Amazing spiderman X|

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          I hate (very quick)reboots like Amazing spiderman X|

          thatraja

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          Mark_Wallace
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          Which costs less? a. Getting new stories written. b. Rehashing the same few stories again and again.

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            Which costs less? a. Getting new stories written. b. Rehashing the same few stories again and again.

            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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            thatraja
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            Agree with your point but the reboots should better than existing series at-least not bad. Like Nolan's Dredd, Batman series Not like Robocop, recent Godzilla, Amazing spiderman, Ninja Turtles, etc.,

            thatraja

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            • T thatraja

              Agree with your point but the reboots should better than existing series at-least not bad. Like Nolan's Dredd, Batman series Not like Robocop, recent Godzilla, Amazing spiderman, Ninja Turtles, etc.,

              thatraja

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              Mark_Wallace
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              thatraja wrote:

              Nolan's Dredd

              That had nothing whatsoever to do with Judge Dredd. It was essentially a poor remake of The Raid[^]. At least the Stallone movie had the right look.

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                thatraja wrote:

                Nolan's Dredd

                That had nothing whatsoever to do with Judge Dredd. It was essentially a poor remake of The Raid[^]. At least the Stallone movie had the right look.

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                Yeah right bright plastic armour!

                Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                  Trailer[^] Looks good. Looking forward to it.

                  If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                  You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                  Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                  Johnny J
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                  Looks ok. I liked the two other FF movies, so I'm definitely going to see this one. The only thing that irritates the shit out me every time they decide to "re-heat" a superhero is that we have to see FOR THE ELEVENTY-SEVENTH time how Peter Parker became Spiderman and how Bruce Wayne became Batman etc. Why can't they just move on, assuming that we have already seen one of the zillion movies about that before? X|

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                    Agree with your point but the reboots should better than existing series at-least not bad. Like Nolan's Dredd, Batman series Not like Robocop, recent Godzilla, Amazing spiderman, Ninja Turtles, etc.,

                    thatraja

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                    RUs123
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                    I disagree. A reboot for me means a rehash of the story made in a different way - different director, actors, script, staff etc. so it can't be the same. It all really depends on who gets to make the movie. Of course I always wish for movies to be at least as good if not better than the existing series but that isn't the case. As you have pointed out Robocop, Spiderman and Ninja Turtles were all disappointing. Recent Godzilla was great in my opinion.

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                    • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                      Mark_Wallace wrote:

                      Alba creature

                      She's not that bad...

                      Mark_Wallace wrote:

                      Marvel Studios

                      Don't see this as a postive or negative.

                      Mark_Wallace wrote:

                      Days of Utter Garbage

                      Meh. Never saw the movie.

                      Mark_Wallace wrote:

                      Conceptually, it doesn't look anything like the Fantastic Four -- it should be more Jetsons than Dark Knight

                      So? It's a movie, meant to entertain.

                      Mark_Wallace wrote:

                      token blacks

                      Yeah. People should get the job because they, well, deserve it, not because of the color of skin. But, if you've got two people of more-or-less equal talent, I don't see any problem giving a leg-up to someone of a group who've been discriminated against...

                      Mark_Wallace wrote:

                      Hollywood ain't a place that gets things right the second time around

                      Or the first... or any other time...

                      If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                      You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                      Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                      realJSOP
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                      TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote:

                      Yeah. People should get the job because they, well, deserve it, not because of the color of skin. But, if you've got two people of more-or-less equal talent, I don't see any problem giving a leg-up to someone of a group who've been discriminated against...

                      That's reverse discrimination. The ability to get a job should not rest on the color of someone's skin, or perceived wrongs impressed upon that person by imagined oppressors. In short, what you said is a crock of sh|t.

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                        TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote:

                        I don't see any problem giving a leg-up to someone of a group who've been discriminated against...

                        Positive discrimination, by definition, is still discrimination!!

                        Quad skating his way through the world since the early 80's... Booger Mobile - My bright green 1964 Ford Falcon - check out the blog here!! | If you feel generous - make a donation to Camp Quality!!

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                        ZurdoDev
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                        _Damian S_ wrote:

                        Positive discrimination, by definition, is still discrimination!!

                        That's true. But since we all discriminate every day, it doesn't mean much.

                        There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                          Yeah right bright plastic armour!

                          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                          Mark_Wallace
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                          Judge Dredd is not set in 1990s San Francisco.

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                            TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote:

                            I don't see any problem giving a leg-up to someone of a group who've been discriminated against...

                            Positive discrimination, by definition, is still discrimination!!

                            Quad skating his way through the world since the early 80's... Booger Mobile - My bright green 1964 Ford Falcon - check out the blog here!! | If you feel generous - make a donation to Camp Quality!!

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                            TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                            maybe, and I see your point, but we all have the right to discriminate and where all things are otherwise equal, then trying to make up for past mistakes by trying to help can't be all bad.

                            If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                            You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                            Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                              Which costs less? a. Getting new stories written. b. Rehashing the same few stories again and again.

                              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                              TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                              I would imagine they cost about the same and I think two very different stories could probably take very different means to tell and therefore the cost would be very different. So, it's not a very good way to compare.

                              If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                              You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                              Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                                Looks ok. I liked the two other FF movies, so I'm definitely going to see this one. The only thing that irritates the shit out me every time they decide to "re-heat" a superhero is that we have to see FOR THE ELEVENTY-SEVENTH time how Peter Parker became Spiderman and how Bruce Wayne became Batman etc. Why can't they just move on, assuming that we have already seen one of the zillion movies about that before? X|

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                                TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                Johnny J. wrote:

                                irritates the sh*t

                                For oldtimers like us that can be irritating, but they're also going after new audiences, too. But, maybe they could do it with short, relevant flashbacks... "I feel your pain" ;P

                                If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                                You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                                Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                                  TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote:

                                  Yeah. People should get the job because they, well, deserve it, not because of the color of skin. But, if you've got two people of more-or-less equal talent, I don't see any problem giving a leg-up to someone of a group who've been discriminated against...

                                  That's reverse discrimination. The ability to get a job should not rest on the color of someone's skin, or perceived wrongs impressed upon that person by imagined oppressors. In short, what you said is a crock of sh|t.

                                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                  TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                  Probably you're right that it's a crock of shiite. But the oppression that black people have suffered (and to some degree still suffer) is hardly imaginary. Granted, what I've described something I wouldn't do necessarily. But when given the choice between two equally talented people, one white, one minority and they both fit the part equally, then I guess it comes down to who you like better, I suppose, on a personal level. It becomes more personal I guess...

                                  If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                                  You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                                  Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                                  • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                                    I would imagine they cost about the same and I think two very different stories could probably take very different means to tell and therefore the cost would be very different. So, it's not a very good way to compare.

                                    If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                                    You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                                    Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                                    Mark_Wallace
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                                    TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote:

                                    I would imagine they cost about the same

                                    Not at all. The most expensive thing in ents is creativity, because of the dearth of it. If you want a new story in Hollywood, you have to pay for it, a lot, and usually several times (because the mentioned dearth of creativity does not map to a dearth of people who claim to be creative), whereas a remake, you can pretty much do yourself without hiring any writers -- a few silly tweaks, and it looks creative, even though it's really not.

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