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  • M Mark_Wallace

    Which costs less? a. Getting new stories written. b. Rehashing the same few stories again and again.

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    thatraja
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    Agree with your point but the reboots should better than existing series at-least not bad. Like Nolan's Dredd, Batman series Not like Robocop, recent Godzilla, Amazing spiderman, Ninja Turtles, etc.,

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      Agree with your point but the reboots should better than existing series at-least not bad. Like Nolan's Dredd, Batman series Not like Robocop, recent Godzilla, Amazing spiderman, Ninja Turtles, etc.,

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      thatraja wrote:

      Nolan's Dredd

      That had nothing whatsoever to do with Judge Dredd. It was essentially a poor remake of The Raid[^]. At least the Stallone movie had the right look.

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      • M Mark_Wallace

        thatraja wrote:

        Nolan's Dredd

        That had nothing whatsoever to do with Judge Dredd. It was essentially a poor remake of The Raid[^]. At least the Stallone movie had the right look.

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        Mycroft Holmes
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        Yeah right bright plastic armour!

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        • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

          Trailer[^] Looks good. Looking forward to it.

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          Johnny J
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          Looks ok. I liked the two other FF movies, so I'm definitely going to see this one. The only thing that irritates the shit out me every time they decide to "re-heat" a superhero is that we have to see FOR THE ELEVENTY-SEVENTH time how Peter Parker became Spiderman and how Bruce Wayne became Batman etc. Why can't they just move on, assuming that we have already seen one of the zillion movies about that before? X|

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          • T thatraja

            Agree with your point but the reboots should better than existing series at-least not bad. Like Nolan's Dredd, Batman series Not like Robocop, recent Godzilla, Amazing spiderman, Ninja Turtles, etc.,

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            RUs123
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            I disagree. A reboot for me means a rehash of the story made in a different way - different director, actors, script, staff etc. so it can't be the same. It all really depends on who gets to make the movie. Of course I always wish for movies to be at least as good if not better than the existing series but that isn't the case. As you have pointed out Robocop, Spiderman and Ninja Turtles were all disappointing. Recent Godzilla was great in my opinion.

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            • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

              Mark_Wallace wrote:

              Alba creature

              She's not that bad...

              Mark_Wallace wrote:

              Marvel Studios

              Don't see this as a postive or negative.

              Mark_Wallace wrote:

              Days of Utter Garbage

              Meh. Never saw the movie.

              Mark_Wallace wrote:

              Conceptually, it doesn't look anything like the Fantastic Four -- it should be more Jetsons than Dark Knight

              So? It's a movie, meant to entertain.

              Mark_Wallace wrote:

              token blacks

              Yeah. People should get the job because they, well, deserve it, not because of the color of skin. But, if you've got two people of more-or-less equal talent, I don't see any problem giving a leg-up to someone of a group who've been discriminated against...

              Mark_Wallace wrote:

              Hollywood ain't a place that gets things right the second time around

              Or the first... or any other time...

              If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
              You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
              Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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              TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote:

              Yeah. People should get the job because they, well, deserve it, not because of the color of skin. But, if you've got two people of more-or-less equal talent, I don't see any problem giving a leg-up to someone of a group who've been discriminated against...

              That's reverse discrimination. The ability to get a job should not rest on the color of someone's skin, or perceived wrongs impressed upon that person by imagined oppressors. In short, what you said is a crock of sh|t.

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              • _ _Damian S_

                TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote:

                I don't see any problem giving a leg-up to someone of a group who've been discriminated against...

                Positive discrimination, by definition, is still discrimination!!

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                _Damian S_ wrote:

                Positive discrimination, by definition, is still discrimination!!

                That's true. But since we all discriminate every day, it doesn't mean much.

                There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                • M Mycroft Holmes

                  Yeah right bright plastic armour!

                  Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                  Mark_Wallace
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                  Judge Dredd is not set in 1990s San Francisco.

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                    TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote:

                    I don't see any problem giving a leg-up to someone of a group who've been discriminated against...

                    Positive discrimination, by definition, is still discrimination!!

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                    TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                    maybe, and I see your point, but we all have the right to discriminate and where all things are otherwise equal, then trying to make up for past mistakes by trying to help can't be all bad.

                    If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                    You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                    Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                    • M Mark_Wallace

                      Which costs less? a. Getting new stories written. b. Rehashing the same few stories again and again.

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                      TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                      I would imagine they cost about the same and I think two very different stories could probably take very different means to tell and therefore the cost would be very different. So, it's not a very good way to compare.

                      If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                      You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                      Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                      • J Johnny J

                        Looks ok. I liked the two other FF movies, so I'm definitely going to see this one. The only thing that irritates the shit out me every time they decide to "re-heat" a superhero is that we have to see FOR THE ELEVENTY-SEVENTH time how Peter Parker became Spiderman and how Bruce Wayne became Batman etc. Why can't they just move on, assuming that we have already seen one of the zillion movies about that before? X|

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                        TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                        Johnny J. wrote:

                        irritates the sh*t

                        For oldtimers like us that can be irritating, but they're also going after new audiences, too. But, maybe they could do it with short, relevant flashbacks... "I feel your pain" ;P

                        If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                        You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                        Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                        • R realJSOP

                          TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote:

                          Yeah. People should get the job because they, well, deserve it, not because of the color of skin. But, if you've got two people of more-or-less equal talent, I don't see any problem giving a leg-up to someone of a group who've been discriminated against...

                          That's reverse discrimination. The ability to get a job should not rest on the color of someone's skin, or perceived wrongs impressed upon that person by imagined oppressors. In short, what you said is a crock of sh|t.

                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                          TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                          Probably you're right that it's a crock of shiite. But the oppression that black people have suffered (and to some degree still suffer) is hardly imaginary. Granted, what I've described something I wouldn't do necessarily. But when given the choice between two equally talented people, one white, one minority and they both fit the part equally, then I guess it comes down to who you like better, I suppose, on a personal level. It becomes more personal I guess...

                          If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                          You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                          Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                            I would imagine they cost about the same and I think two very different stories could probably take very different means to tell and therefore the cost would be very different. So, it's not a very good way to compare.

                            If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                            You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                            Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                            Mark_Wallace
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                            TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote:

                            I would imagine they cost about the same

                            Not at all. The most expensive thing in ents is creativity, because of the dearth of it. If you want a new story in Hollywood, you have to pay for it, a lot, and usually several times (because the mentioned dearth of creativity does not map to a dearth of people who claim to be creative), whereas a remake, you can pretty much do yourself without hiring any writers -- a few silly tweaks, and it looks creative, even though it's really not.

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