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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    Not really - from what I heard on BBC Breakfast this morning, it's less about "prove she said yes" and more about "prove you didn't deliberately get her so drunk she wasn't rational enough to decide at all". If you spend the evening getting her paralytic, then I would say it's much the same as giving her Rohypnol.

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    Lost User
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    They had to be pretty pissed to get into bed with me. :(( :((

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    • M Munchies_Matt

      Yeah, its all getting a bit fucked up isn't it.

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      It's getting raped, because it is not a person and therefore can't consent.

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        My missus would be pissed if I woke her up to ask permission.

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        I tried asking permission of my missus - but she didn't answer the phone, so I went ahead anyway.

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        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

          Not really - from what I heard on BBC Breakfast this morning, it's less about "prove she said yes" and more about "prove you didn't deliberately get her so drunk she wasn't rational enough to decide at all". If you spend the evening getting her paralytic, then I would say it's much the same as giving her Rohypnol.

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          Nagy Vilmos
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          Don't be daft, they don't throw up from roofers!

          veni bibi saltavi

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            Don't be daft, they don't throw up from roofers!

            veni bibi saltavi

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            OriginalGriff
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            Do you mean "roofies"? Mind you, all the roofers I've seen would make most people throw up if they woke up next to them... :~

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            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

              Not really - from what I heard on BBC Breakfast this morning, it's less about "prove she said yes" and more about "prove you didn't deliberately get her so drunk she wasn't rational enough to decide at all". If you spend the evening getting her paralytic, then I would say it's much the same as giving her Rohypnol.

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              Jorgen Andersson
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              I read and article on the night life of Cardiff a few years back... So I just wondered if the breweries are going to have opinions on that? This would make a serious cut in their profits.

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                Do you mean "roofies"? Mind you, all the roofers I've seen would make most people throw up if they woke up next to them... :~

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                PhilLenoir
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                My great-grandfather was a roofer and tiler. Unfortunately he was also a drunk. :doh:

                Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                • P PhilLenoir

                  My great-grandfather was a roofer and tiler. Unfortunately he was also a drunk. :doh:

                  Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                  OriginalGriff
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                  Not a good combination... :sigh:

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                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                    Not a good combination... :sigh:

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                    PhilLenoir
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                    ... as a result he ended his days in Fulham Infirmary. Not the only contention in his life, he was French (from Paris), hence my surname, and married to a nagging Scot. There's no way this was going to end well:

                    • The Auld Alliance embodied in a marriage, living in London
                    • A nagging Scot versus a free-spirited Frenchman
                    • Was she a nag because of his drinking or because she was a Scot?
                    • Was he drinking because of her nagging or because he was French?
                    • Was he a drunk and she miserable because they lived in Fulham?

                    Anyway, a lunchtime pub session and an afternoon roofing session was his inevitable undoing.

                    Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                    • P PhilLenoir

                      ... as a result he ended his days in Fulham Infirmary. Not the only contention in his life, he was French (from Paris), hence my surname, and married to a nagging Scot. There's no way this was going to end well:

                      • The Auld Alliance embodied in a marriage, living in London
                      • A nagging Scot versus a free-spirited Frenchman
                      • Was she a nag because of his drinking or because she was a Scot?
                      • Was he drinking because of her nagging or because he was French?
                      • Was he a drunk and she miserable because they lived in Fulham?

                      Anyway, a lunchtime pub session and an afternoon roofing session was his inevitable undoing.

                      Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                      OriginalGriff
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                      Having been there, I'm betting on the last one. And it must have been even worse around 100 years ago.

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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        Having been there, I'm betting on the last one. And it must have been even worse around 100 years ago.

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                        PhilLenoir
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                        Having been born in 'ammersmiff and dragged up in Fulham, I know what you mean (although Hammersmith does have nice river walks and Fuller's pubs! Talking of pubs, I used to haunt the Greyhound in Fulham when I was in my late teens. Some nights you might have been on shandies and still came out stoned! :)

                        Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                        • P PhilLenoir

                          Having been born in 'ammersmiff and dragged up in Fulham, I know what you mean (although Hammersmith does have nice river walks and Fuller's pubs! Talking of pubs, I used to haunt the Greyhound in Fulham when I was in my late teens. Some nights you might have been on shandies and still came out stoned! :)

                          Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                          OriginalGriff
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                          I know that feeling! The Royal Oak in Passfield was like that - particularly when we used the function room. :cool:

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                          • L Lost User

                            That may work for now, but soon there should be a law saying that women can retroactively withdraw their consent at any moment. The worst part is I'm not even making this shit[^] up. Actually let's just ban intercourse altogether, because it's always rape[^].

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                            Because someone is being an idiot in front of the whole internet does not mean that the rest of the world will willingly adopt that new theory. One cannot change the past. It's that simple. It would be a too small step to retroactive abortion. It is becoming a better idea by the day.

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                            • M Munchies_Matt

                              Men must prove a woman said 'Yes' under tough new rape rules[^] How are men supposed to do this, record the woman? Get her to sign a disclaimer? And how about men? Do they have the same rights under the law and if not why not?

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                              TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                              Really bad idea. I see this being abused by jilted lovers and angry womyn. And of course, men will not have the same rights...

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                              • P PhilLenoir

                                ... as a result he ended his days in Fulham Infirmary. Not the only contention in his life, he was French (from Paris), hence my surname, and married to a nagging Scot. There's no way this was going to end well:

                                • The Auld Alliance embodied in a marriage, living in London
                                • A nagging Scot versus a free-spirited Frenchman
                                • Was she a nag because of his drinking or because she was a Scot?
                                • Was he drinking because of her nagging or because he was French?
                                • Was he a drunk and she miserable because they lived in Fulham?

                                Anyway, a lunchtime pub session and an afternoon roofing session was his inevitable undoing.

                                Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                                TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                Sound like a big fat resounding "YES!" to all questions and parts thereof.

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                                You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                                Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                                • L Lost User

                                  That may work for now, but soon there should be a law saying that women can retroactively withdraw their consent at any moment. The worst part is I'm not even making this shit[^] up. Actually let's just ban intercourse altogether, because it's always rape[^].

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                                  TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                  harold aptroot wrote:

                                  not making this sh*t up. Actually ... it's always rape.

                                  That's crazy talk. What a crock.

                                  If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                                  You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
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                                  • M Munchies_Matt

                                    Men must prove a woman said 'Yes' under tough new rape rules[^] How are men supposed to do this, record the woman? Get her to sign a disclaimer? And how about men? Do they have the same rights under the law and if not why not?

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                                    jschell
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                                    Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                    How are men supposed to do this, record the woman? Get her to sign a disclaimer?

                                    Good thing I read that link I was figuring it was just a university policy... Based on that one has no alternative but to record the entire session and to seek an affirmative answer first.

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                                    • D den2k88

                                      It's interesting to constatate that many women use fake rape lawsuits to squeeze or threaten men. In those cases for a man it would be impossible for a man to defend himself, leaving only the southern Italian way: a pool of acid.

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                                      jschell
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                                      den2k88 wrote:

                                      It's interesting to constatate that many women use fake rape lawsuits to squeeze or threaten men

                                      I doubt that without qualification. First at best studies would suggest that false accusations occur no more often than any other type of false accusation. There are reasons to believe it is less especially when one accounts that at least some rapes are never reported. And then once it occurs a monetary motivation is not the only possible reason and unlikely to be a common one. So "many" seems really unlikely.

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                                        den2k88 wrote:

                                        It's interesting to constatate that many women use fake rape lawsuits to squeeze or threaten men

                                        I doubt that without qualification. First at best studies would suggest that false accusations occur no more often than any other type of false accusation. There are reasons to believe it is less especially when one accounts that at least some rapes are never reported. And then once it occurs a monetary motivation is not the only possible reason and unlikely to be a common one. So "many" seems really unlikely.

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                                        Here in Italy it is a commonly used way for teenagers to evade responibility when they get pregnant or get caught. Usually they put the fault on foreigners (we have a lot of unregistered foreigners, unknown to the law. Estimations yields from 5 to 10 times the regular ones.) or on the current boyfriend. There were many cases, about one-two per week, that ended up on the news and several more that never reached the public but still happened. To understand this, remember that in IT we have the Vatican, and most of the population is very bigot even when they trangress almost any reliogious rule. It's not casual that we are one of the countries with the lowest social rights in the First World (not that we'll remain in the First World much longer, but this is my personal opinion).

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                                        • M Munchies_Matt

                                          Men must prove a woman said 'Yes' under tough new rape rules[^] How are men supposed to do this, record the woman? Get her to sign a disclaimer? And how about men? Do they have the same rights under the law and if not why not?

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                                          GuyThiebaut
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                                          I guess the moment of romance will be lost when men are forced by law to say "fancy a shag sweetheart?"

                                          “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                                          ― Christopher Hitchens

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