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    Sander Rossel
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    Has anyone read, or is reading, this book: Soft Skills[^]? Looks very interesting and I've heard good stuff about it. I asked my boss to order it for me today (I have a budget for that :) ). 5-10 days before delivery... :sigh: With some people skills I could actually sell my brilliant ideas to my coworkers and, more importantly, management. By now I understand that kicking in the door and maniacally screaming "ALL UR CODEZ SUX!!!" isn't the way to go, but I hope this book can give some insights into what IS the way to go. And from what I understand the book goes beyond that and gives some tips on managing your life and career, boosting productivity, and even starting your own business etc. Looking forward to reading it :thumbsup:

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    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

      Has anyone read, or is reading, this book: Soft Skills[^]? Looks very interesting and I've heard good stuff about it. I asked my boss to order it for me today (I have a budget for that :) ). 5-10 days before delivery... :sigh: With some people skills I could actually sell my brilliant ideas to my coworkers and, more importantly, management. By now I understand that kicking in the door and maniacally screaming "ALL UR CODEZ SUX!!!" isn't the way to go, but I hope this book can give some insights into what IS the way to go. And from what I understand the book goes beyond that and gives some tips on managing your life and career, boosting productivity, and even starting your own business etc. Looking forward to reading it :thumbsup:

      My blog[^]

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      public void DoWork()
      {
      throw new NotSupportedException();
      }
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      JMK NI
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      I was watching a Pluralsight course today by John Sonmez. If his books are anything like his courses I'm sure it will be a good read.

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      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

        Has anyone read, or is reading, this book: Soft Skills[^]? Looks very interesting and I've heard good stuff about it. I asked my boss to order it for me today (I have a budget for that :) ). 5-10 days before delivery... :sigh: With some people skills I could actually sell my brilliant ideas to my coworkers and, more importantly, management. By now I understand that kicking in the door and maniacally screaming "ALL UR CODEZ SUX!!!" isn't the way to go, but I hope this book can give some insights into what IS the way to go. And from what I understand the book goes beyond that and gives some tips on managing your life and career, boosting productivity, and even starting your own business etc. Looking forward to reading it :thumbsup:

        My blog[^]

        public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
        {
        public void DoWork()
        {
        throw new NotSupportedException();
        }
        }

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        R Giskard Reventlov
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        I have an alternative to the book; it's called experience.

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        • R R Giskard Reventlov

          I have an alternative to the book; it's called experience.

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          newton saber
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          Karel Čapek wrote:

          it's called experience.

          Experience is so empirical though. :D

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          • R R Giskard Reventlov

            I have an alternative to the book; it's called experience.

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            Sander Rossel
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            I've seen people with much more experience (read: more years in the industry) than me fail miserably because they didn't read a book once in a while. Experience is no substitute for knowledge. Experience is about knowing how to apply knowledge correctly. And why would I have to make the same mistakes as everybody else when someone points them out for me in a book?

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            • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

              Has anyone read, or is reading, this book: Soft Skills[^]? Looks very interesting and I've heard good stuff about it. I asked my boss to order it for me today (I have a budget for that :) ). 5-10 days before delivery... :sigh: With some people skills I could actually sell my brilliant ideas to my coworkers and, more importantly, management. By now I understand that kicking in the door and maniacally screaming "ALL UR CODEZ SUX!!!" isn't the way to go, but I hope this book can give some insights into what IS the way to go. And from what I understand the book goes beyond that and gives some tips on managing your life and career, boosting productivity, and even starting your own business etc. Looking forward to reading it :thumbsup:

              My blog[^]

              public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
              {
              public void DoWork()
              {
              throw new NotSupportedException();
              }
              }

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              Lost User
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              Also get Il Principe, a team of programmers isn't a state but some of the same principles apply.

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              • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                Has anyone read, or is reading, this book: Soft Skills[^]? Looks very interesting and I've heard good stuff about it. I asked my boss to order it for me today (I have a budget for that :) ). 5-10 days before delivery... :sigh: With some people skills I could actually sell my brilliant ideas to my coworkers and, more importantly, management. By now I understand that kicking in the door and maniacally screaming "ALL UR CODEZ SUX!!!" isn't the way to go, but I hope this book can give some insights into what IS the way to go. And from what I understand the book goes beyond that and gives some tips on managing your life and career, boosting productivity, and even starting your own business etc. Looking forward to reading it :thumbsup:

                My blog[^]

                public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                {
                public void DoWork()
                {
                throw new NotSupportedException();
                }
                }

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                Mark_Wallace
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                The only thing they call a "soft skill" that's actually valuable is empathy -- but empathy's hard, so most books/courses/morons working in the field don't touch it. Just imagine you're the guy you're talking to, and work out how you'd feel if some wanker were talking to you the way you're talking to him. Easy.

                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                  I've seen people with much more experience (read: more years in the industry) than me fail miserably because they didn't read a book once in a while. Experience is no substitute for knowledge. Experience is about knowing how to apply knowledge correctly. And why would I have to make the same mistakes as everybody else when someone points them out for me in a book?

                  My blog[^]

                  public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                  {
                  public void DoWork()
                  {
                  throw new NotSupportedException();
                  }
                  }

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                  loctrice
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                  Sander Rossel wrote:

                  Experience is about knowing how to apply knowledge correctly.

                  Nicely stated

                  Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine

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                  • R R Giskard Reventlov

                    I have an alternative to the book; it's called experience.

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                    DougInNC2
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                    Experience without introducing new ideas is just repeating the same mistakes. If you put bad code in a loop, does it get better over time?

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                      The only thing they call a "soft skill" that's actually valuable is empathy -- but empathy's hard, so most books/courses/morons working in the field don't touch it. Just imagine you're the guy you're talking to, and work out how you'd feel if some wanker were talking to you the way you're talking to him. Easy.

                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                      rnbergren
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                      up vote. Yes, Hard though.

                      To err is human to really mess up you need a computer

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                      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                        Has anyone read, or is reading, this book: Soft Skills[^]? Looks very interesting and I've heard good stuff about it. I asked my boss to order it for me today (I have a budget for that :) ). 5-10 days before delivery... :sigh: With some people skills I could actually sell my brilliant ideas to my coworkers and, more importantly, management. By now I understand that kicking in the door and maniacally screaming "ALL UR CODEZ SUX!!!" isn't the way to go, but I hope this book can give some insights into what IS the way to go. And from what I understand the book goes beyond that and gives some tips on managing your life and career, boosting productivity, and even starting your own business etc. Looking forward to reading it :thumbsup:

                        My blog[^]

                        public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                        {
                        public void DoWork()
                        {
                        throw new NotSupportedException();
                        }
                        }

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                        Ghislain Hivon
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                        I didn't read Soft Skills, but to sell ideas to coworkers, I think that Driving Technical Change is a good read.

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                        You’ll learn all about peoples’ “resistance patterns. [...] From there you’ll discover battle-tested techniques for overcoming users’ objections

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                          Also get Il Principe, a team of programmers isn't a state but some of the same principles apply.

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                          Sander Rossel
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                          I actually have it on my bookshelf... Tried to read it about 5-6 years ago (boy, time flies!), but I couldn't get past the second chapter... I believe it was about what a king should and shouldn't do, or whatever. Maybe I'll try again now I'm older and wiser :laugh:

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                          • M Mark_Wallace

                            The only thing they call a "soft skill" that's actually valuable is empathy -- but empathy's hard, so most books/courses/morons working in the field don't touch it. Just imagine you're the guy you're talking to, and work out how you'd feel if some wanker were talking to you the way you're talking to him. Easy.

                            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                            Sander Rossel
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                            That's the dumbest idea I've ever heard! Man, you're stupid... Seriously though, that was about my reaction to a coworker a few years ago when he asked me a programming question. He complained to management (who complained to me) and he hasn't asked me anything after that. The worst part was that I wasn't even aware of it at the time. Later, when I calmed down a bit and he dared to ask me questions again, I've helped him out quite a bit :) Now I want to go from 'helping', to 'empowering' (yes, I've been reading Dilbert :laugh: )

                            My blog[^]

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                            public void DoWork()
                            {
                            throw new NotSupportedException();
                            }
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                              I didn't read Soft Skills, but to sell ideas to coworkers, I think that Driving Technical Change is a good read.

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                              You’ll learn all about peoples’ “resistance patterns. [...] From there you’ll discover battle-tested techniques for overcoming users’ objections

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                              Sander Rossel
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                              Thanks, looks interesting! :thumbsup:

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                              public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                              {
                              public void DoWork()
                              {
                              throw new NotSupportedException();
                              }
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                              • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                That's the dumbest idea I've ever heard! Man, you're stupid... Seriously though, that was about my reaction to a coworker a few years ago when he asked me a programming question. He complained to management (who complained to me) and he hasn't asked me anything after that. The worst part was that I wasn't even aware of it at the time. Later, when I calmed down a bit and he dared to ask me questions again, I've helped him out quite a bit :) Now I want to go from 'helping', to 'empowering' (yes, I've been reading Dilbert :laugh: )

                                My blog[^]

                                public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                                {
                                public void DoWork()
                                {
                                throw new NotSupportedException();
                                }
                                }

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                                You see it all the time, if you walk through the halls of software houses. Another problem is that people who work really, really well together talk to each other that way, too, but the differences are so subtle that an outsider wouldn't recognise them -- so if anyone's thinking about making rules about such behaviour: forget it; you can only make the workplace worse by doing so.

                                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                • R R Giskard Reventlov

                                  I have an alternative to the book; it's called experience.

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                                  Kirk 10389821
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                                  I think experience has the distinct downside of re-enforcing bad beliefs and behaviors. Education/Books, on the other hand have the opportunity to change those things. I have a friend who still makes everyone feel stupid, and can't get buy in!!! Wonder why?

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                                    I think experience has the distinct downside of re-enforcing bad beliefs and behaviors. Education/Books, on the other hand have the opportunity to change those things. I have a friend who still makes everyone feel stupid, and can't get buy in!!! Wonder why?

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                                    R Giskard Reventlov
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                                    I would strongly agree with you and the others above replying to my post. There is a large difference between the experience one 40 year old might have had from another person of 40. Many people I know, of all ages, simply repeat the years without improving or expanding their lives or knowledge: that is not experience, it is repetition. I should have been far more precise knowing how incredibly pedantic and nuance-averse we are here at CP.

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