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  • L Lost User

    No, 15:00 is the time to arrive at work. 16:00 is the time to go home! :cool:

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    ClockMeister
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    "We get up at 12 and start to work at 1 ... take an hour for lunch at then at 2 we're done, jolly good fun. Ah, ah, ah, oh, oh, oh ... another jolly good day in the land of Oz!"

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    • L Lost User

      I love the opening of the second answer: S

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      erious answer: 80 hours? Seriously? Basically, that's 12 hours per day for 7 days.

      Seriously? 7 x 12 = 80? The poster has evidently been working 80+ hours a week and their brain is tired! (or is that Tyred in the US of A?)

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      If you divide 80 hours into 7 days it is roughly 11.4 hours a day. If you factor in a half hour meal break, then it works out to be around a 12 hour shift.

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      • K Kent Sharkey

        Really?[^] Really? :doh:

        TTFN - Kent

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        I have done these kind of hours for months on end, though not in the IT world. It was at a corrugated fiberboard container plant where I was a press operator. If we were down an operator, as we were most of the 3-4 years I held that position, the two remaining had to pull 12 hour shifts. Most of the time, the plant ran 13 days at a time, only giving 2 days a month off due to union rules. After a while, you get used to it. The plus side, is that you are so busy making money, you don't have time to spend it! In my earlier years as a programmer, when everything was magical, and before I had a wife, it wasn't uncommon for me lose track of time and code until 1 or 2 in the morning. Anymore, it's rare that I code anything past quitting time, though I do work every Saturday.

        "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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        • M Mark_Wallace

          "First, basic, level of motivation is money" Bollocks. Besides, all you need to do to get infinite overtime is remind the guys that "life" is only a foolish anagram of "file", and that no one file is more important than your project to make an app to demonstrate how to download and install VLC.

          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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          Mark_Wallace wrote:

          Bollocks.

          Certainly a motivator for many people. Of course one must actually define what "money" means in that context. For example HR standing in front a room full of developers telling them that the 'total' benefits package is 5% above the industry average is "bollocks". If however you tell them that if they meet the 3 month delivery limit and they will each get a check for $10,000 then you might see a bit more interest. Or if you hire them at a rate that is 25% above their next best offer, and do salary increases every year with a above 10% match from any counter offer they receive then you might see a bit more interest as well.

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          • K Kent Sharkey

            Really?[^] Really? :doh:

            TTFN - Kent

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            Kent Sharkey wrote:

            Really?

            I worked for a company where I typically put in slightly more than 60 hours a week and others put in many more than that. They paid hourly. And at least the people I knew were actually producing at that rate. Conversely I worked at a company at salary that for years claimed that the 'next' release would be easy in terms of scheduling. Never happened. So I started boosting my estimates significantly and started working far less hours. Only way that I saw to demonstrate that I was meeting goals and yet still working in a reasonable way.

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            • K Kent Sharkey

              Really?[^] Really? :doh:

              TTFN - Kent

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              RafagaX
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              I suppose, chaining them to their desks didn't work out as expected... :)

              CEO at: - Rafaga Systems - Para Facturas - Modern Components for the moment...

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              • M Member 10707677

                80 hour work week is possible, when you consider the occasional 34 hour workday. (Been there, done that.) I had a contract supplying data center operations management when a critical disk drive failed right before the month end closing reports. Eleven hours service time (two failures [missing set screw]), seven hours recovery, sixteen hours processing time with two of three operators on leave. (Yours truly filling in.)

                The difficult may take time, the impossible a little longer.

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                Lost User
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                Wile totally fascinating, my point was in the mathematical error, not in the possibility of an 80 hour working week.

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                • H Herbie Mountjoy

                  Well if you add the half an hour for lunch and an extra half hour on Sunday, that calculation sort of works.

                  I may not last forever but the mess I leave behind certainly will.

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                  Lost User
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                  sure, and if you just miss off a couple of decimal places, PI = 3.0!

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                  • K Kent Sharkey

                    Really?[^] Really? :doh:

                    TTFN - Kent

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                    NimitySSJ
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                    Reminded me of this scene from Pirates of Silicon Valley. Jobs basically describes how he created a cult that would think 60-80 hours was showing a lack of loyalty. "90 hours a week and loving it... some of them work more than 90 hours a week..." Of course, to heck with that: I hope dude's company gets some sense or bankrupts. Nick P

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                    • K Kent Sharkey

                      Really?[^] Really? :doh:

                      TTFN - Kent

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                      Al Chak
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                      40 hours - programming 45 hours - extend programming and extend coffee 50 hours - extend programming and extend coffee and EXTEND BUGS 60 hours - extend coffee and EXTEND BUGS 80 hours - Bugs in the programm, Bugs in the sex, bugs enstead the family

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                      • L Lost User

                        I love the opening of the second answer: S

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                        erious answer: 80 hours? Seriously? Basically, that's 12 hours per day for 7 days.

                        Seriously? 7 x 12 = 80? The poster has evidently been working 80+ hours a week and their brain is tired! (or is that Tyred in the US of A?)

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                        FreeAsInBeer
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                        I think you missed the word "basically" somewhere. 4 hours away from 80 (5%) is in my personal realm of "basically." What's yours?

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                        • F FreeAsInBeer

                          I think you missed the word "basically" somewhere. 4 hours away from 80 (5%) is in my personal realm of "basically." What's yours?

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                          basically != approximately

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