60-80 hours a week
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I have done these kind of hours for months on end, though not in the IT world. It was at a corrugated fiberboard container plant where I was a press operator. If we were down an operator, as we were most of the 3-4 years I held that position, the two remaining had to pull 12 hour shifts. Most of the time, the plant ran 13 days at a time, only giving 2 days a month off due to union rules. After a while, you get used to it. The plus side, is that you are so busy making money, you don't have time to spend it! In my earlier years as a programmer, when everything was magical, and before I had a wife, it wasn't uncommon for me lose track of time and code until 1 or 2 in the morning. Anymore, it's rare that I code anything past quitting time, though I do work every Saturday.
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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"First, basic, level of motivation is money" Bollocks. Besides, all you need to do to get infinite overtime is remind the guys that "life" is only a foolish anagram of "file", and that no one file is more important than your project to make an app to demonstrate how to download and install VLC.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
Mark_Wallace wrote:
Bollocks.
Certainly a motivator for many people. Of course one must actually define what "money" means in that context. For example HR standing in front a room full of developers telling them that the 'total' benefits package is 5% above the industry average is "bollocks". If however you tell them that if they meet the 3 month delivery limit and they will each get a check for $10,000 then you might see a bit more interest. Or if you hire them at a rate that is 25% above their next best offer, and do salary increases every year with a above 10% match from any counter offer they receive then you might see a bit more interest as well.
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Kent Sharkey wrote:
Really?
I worked for a company where I typically put in slightly more than 60 hours a week and others put in many more than that. They paid hourly. And at least the people I knew were actually producing at that rate. Conversely I worked at a company at salary that for years claimed that the 'next' release would be easy in terms of scheduling. Never happened. So I started boosting my estimates significantly and started working far less hours. Only way that I saw to demonstrate that I was meeting goals and yet still working in a reasonable way.
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I suppose, chaining them to their desks didn't work out as expected... :)
CEO at: - Rafaga Systems - Para Facturas - Modern Components for the moment...
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80 hour work week is possible, when you consider the occasional 34 hour workday. (Been there, done that.) I had a contract supplying data center operations management when a critical disk drive failed right before the month end closing reports. Eleven hours service time (two failures [missing set screw]), seven hours recovery, sixteen hours processing time with two of three operators on leave. (Yours truly filling in.)
The difficult may take time, the impossible a little longer.
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Well if you add the half an hour for lunch and an extra half hour on Sunday, that calculation sort of works.
I may not last forever but the mess I leave behind certainly will.
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Reminded me of this scene from Pirates of Silicon Valley. Jobs basically describes how he created a cult that would think 60-80 hours was showing a lack of loyalty. "90 hours a week and loving it... some of them work more than 90 hours a week..." Of course, to heck with that: I hope dude's company gets some sense or bankrupts. Nick P
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I love the opening of the second answer: S
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erious answer: 80 hours? Seriously? Basically, that's 12 hours per day for 7 days.
Seriously? 7 x 12 = 80? The poster has evidently been working 80+ hours a week and their brain is tired! (or is that Tyred in the US of A?)
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I think you missed the word "basically" somewhere. 4 hours away from 80 (5%) is in my personal realm of "basically." What's yours?
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I think you missed the word "basically" somewhere. 4 hours away from 80 (5%) is in my personal realm of "basically." What's yours?