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  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

    It seems like everybody is on GitHub nowadays. I'm not looking for source control or collaboration tools. I could share my code, but why would I? I don't have anything very interesting to share at the moment (or maybe some files for my blog/articles?). And I'm also not looking into contributing to other projects as I'm busy enough studying for my Open University courses. I understood GitHub is more than that (a social network? Can't be better than CP :)). I am kind of interested in what all the fuzz is about, but is it worth it for me to create a profile?

    My blog[^]

    public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
    {
    public void DoWork()
    {
    throw new NotSupportedException();
    }
    }

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    Lost User
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    #4

    If you needed GitHub, you would have noticed by now.

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    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

      It seems like everybody is on GitHub nowadays. I'm not looking for source control or collaboration tools. I could share my code, but why would I? I don't have anything very interesting to share at the moment (or maybe some files for my blog/articles?). And I'm also not looking into contributing to other projects as I'm busy enough studying for my Open University courses. I understood GitHub is more than that (a social network? Can't be better than CP :)). I am kind of interested in what all the fuzz is about, but is it worth it for me to create a profile?

      My blog[^]

      public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
      {
      public void DoWork()
      {
      throw new NotSupportedException();
      }
      }

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      Ravi Bhavnani
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      I use Microsoft's Visual Studio Online (TFS) for source control and CodeProject and CodePlex to showcase my open source code.  I find VSO invaluable - it supports both TFS and Git. /ravi

      My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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      • D Daniel Pfeffer

        Unless you: 1. Collaborate with others on projects OR 2. Must work on said projects from multiple locations I would say that GitHub is overkill. However, I strongly urge you to use some sort of version control even for your personal projects. Being able to undo changes can be a life-saver! I would, however, add that if you are concerned about intellectual property (IP) ownership, GitHub is a poor choice. Recent events (e.g. the Yanqui Federales attempts to grab data from MS servers located in Ireland :omg:) show that if the server is not under your physical control - you don't own the data on it!

        If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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        Florian Rappl
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        I don't know if that last statement is a valid point against GitHub. If you use it for OSS projects, then you don't mind anyway [anyone can clone anyway - the license itself is very clear stated]. If you need something for internal projects, then GitHub is a weird choice anyway, as you could just go with, e.g., a GitLab instance, which is installed on premises. This gives you much more freedom, however, comes also with additional maintenance costs.

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        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

          It seems like everybody is on GitHub nowadays. I'm not looking for source control or collaboration tools. I could share my code, but why would I? I don't have anything very interesting to share at the moment (or maybe some files for my blog/articles?). And I'm also not looking into contributing to other projects as I'm busy enough studying for my Open University courses. I understood GitHub is more than that (a social network? Can't be better than CP :)). I am kind of interested in what all the fuzz is about, but is it worth it for me to create a profile?

          My blog[^]

          public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
          {
          public void DoWork()
          {
          throw new NotSupportedException();
          }
          }

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          Marc Clifton
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          There's other options out there besides GitHub, BitBucket for example was mentioned. I often meet your criteria: don't need to collaborate, don't need source control, not interested in sharing the code, etc. I still however used, for years, SVN because I wanted an offsite backup to important docs, and I am often working on my laptop somewhere, and so I'm frequently collaborating with myself, if you will. The most important reason for using GitHub, specifically, is that in the last year, as I've poked around on occasion for contract jobs, every single potential lead has asked me for my GitHub account to see some sample code. You may not be looking for work now, but it's a really good thing to start building your code base, your commit history, etc., for some projects you are OK with making public. In fact, my github account is now a standard part of my resume. Marc

          Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project!

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          • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

            I do not use GitHub, but Bitbucket - which is essentially the same (but I found better for me)...For what? I do work on the same project from different physical locations (different computers), so it helps me to work on whatever project I want... I also use it as a kind of online debug (and for share too)... But do not do it for the buzz...Do it only if you need it...

            Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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            Sander Rossel
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            #8

            Checked out BitBucket and compared the two. I'm still considering GitHub simply because I'm curious. Marc also mentioned a compelling reason to go with GitHub :)

            My blog[^]

            public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
            {
            public void DoWork()
            {
            throw new NotSupportedException();
            }
            }

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            • L Lost User

              If you needed GitHub, you would have noticed by now.

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              Sander Rossel
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              #9

              I often wake up thinking "Is this it? Is this all there is in life?" I'm searching for that something which I can't seem to find. At first I thought maybe I'm missing some Big-O in my life. Clearly that wasn't it. Now I'm going with GitHub :) And I don't think people quite missed electricity or cars or airplanes or computers... :)

              My blog[^]

              public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
              {
              public void DoWork()
              {
              throw new NotSupportedException();
              }
              }

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              • M Marc Clifton

                There's other options out there besides GitHub, BitBucket for example was mentioned. I often meet your criteria: don't need to collaborate, don't need source control, not interested in sharing the code, etc. I still however used, for years, SVN because I wanted an offsite backup to important docs, and I am often working on my laptop somewhere, and so I'm frequently collaborating with myself, if you will. The most important reason for using GitHub, specifically, is that in the last year, as I've poked around on occasion for contract jobs, every single potential lead has asked me for my GitHub account to see some sample code. You may not be looking for work now, but it's a really good thing to start building your code base, your commit history, etc., for some projects you are OK with making public. In fact, my github account is now a standard part of my resume. Marc

                Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project!

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                Sander Rossel
                wrote on last edited by
                #10

                Marc Clifton wrote:

                my github account is now a standard part of my resume.

                Good point. I've read that GitHub is the new resume in other articles too. I think I'll just create an account and see where it goes. I might even use it in the future. At least I can try it out a bit :)

                My blog[^]

                public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                {
                public void DoWork()
                {
                throw new NotSupportedException();
                }
                }

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                • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                  It seems like everybody is on GitHub nowadays. I'm not looking for source control or collaboration tools. I could share my code, but why would I? I don't have anything very interesting to share at the moment (or maybe some files for my blog/articles?). And I'm also not looking into contributing to other projects as I'm busy enough studying for my Open University courses. I understood GitHub is more than that (a social network? Can't be better than CP :)). I am kind of interested in what all the fuzz is about, but is it worth it for me to create a profile?

                  My blog[^]

                  public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                  {
                  public void DoWork()
                  {
                  throw new NotSupportedException();
                  }
                  }

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                  megaadam
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                  Do not ask what GitHub can do for you Ask what you can do for GitHub :thumbsup::cool:

                  Life is too shor

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                  • M megaadam

                    Do not ask what GitHub can do for you Ask what you can do for GitHub :thumbsup::cool:

                    Life is too shor

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                    Sander Rossel
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #12

                    What? That didn't even make sense... :~

                    My blog[^]

                    public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                    {
                    public void DoWork()
                    {
                    throw new NotSupportedException();
                    }
                    }

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                    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                      It seems like everybody is on GitHub nowadays. I'm not looking for source control or collaboration tools. I could share my code, but why would I? I don't have anything very interesting to share at the moment (or maybe some files for my blog/articles?). And I'm also not looking into contributing to other projects as I'm busy enough studying for my Open University courses. I understood GitHub is more than that (a social network? Can't be better than CP :)). I am kind of interested in what all the fuzz is about, but is it worth it for me to create a profile?

                      My blog[^]

                      public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                      {
                      public void DoWork()
                      {
                      throw new NotSupportedException();
                      }
                      }

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                      Nelek
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                      Sander Rossel wrote:

                      It seems like everybody is on GitHub nowadays.

                      I don't, and seeing no need in near future

                      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                      • F Florian Rappl

                        I don't know if that last statement is a valid point against GitHub. If you use it for OSS projects, then you don't mind anyway [anyone can clone anyway - the license itself is very clear stated]. If you need something for internal projects, then GitHub is a weird choice anyway, as you could just go with, e.g., a GitLab instance, which is installed on premises. This gives you much more freedom, however, comes also with additional maintenance costs.

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                        Daniel Pfeffer
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                        Florian Rappl wrote:

                        If you need something for internal projects, then GitHub is a weird choice anyway, as you could just go with, e.g., a GitLab instance, which is installed on premises

                        Agreed. My point was that GitHub is not an appropriate place for proprietary code, the advantage of being able to access your code from anywhere being offset by the lack of security.

                        If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                          Marc Clifton wrote:

                          my github account is now a standard part of my resume.

                          Good point. I've read that GitHub is the new resume in other articles too. I think I'll just create an account and see where it goes. I might even use it in the future. At least I can try it out a bit :)

                          My blog[^]

                          public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                          {
                          public void DoWork()
                          {
                          throw new NotSupportedException();
                          }
                          }

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                          Marc Clifton
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                          #15

                          Sander Rossel wrote:

                          At least I can try it out a bit

                          Enjoy! Marc

                          Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project!

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                          • M Marc Clifton

                            There's other options out there besides GitHub, BitBucket for example was mentioned. I often meet your criteria: don't need to collaborate, don't need source control, not interested in sharing the code, etc. I still however used, for years, SVN because I wanted an offsite backup to important docs, and I am often working on my laptop somewhere, and so I'm frequently collaborating with myself, if you will. The most important reason for using GitHub, specifically, is that in the last year, as I've poked around on occasion for contract jobs, every single potential lead has asked me for my GitHub account to see some sample code. You may not be looking for work now, but it's a really good thing to start building your code base, your commit history, etc., for some projects you are OK with making public. In fact, my github account is now a standard part of my resume. Marc

                            Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project!

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                            PIEBALDconsult
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                            Marc Clifton wrote:

                            asked me for my GitHub account to see some sample code

                            I would never put up with that, and fortunately I don't need to. Nor would I give them my CP ID. If they want me to bring or send some code I will, but I wouldn't want them to see old and/or buggy code.

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                            • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                              What? That didn't even make sense... :~

                              My blog[^]

                              public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                              {
                              public void DoWork()
                              {
                              throw new NotSupportedException();
                              }
                              }

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                              megaadam
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                              #17

                              It was a paraphrase. And a joke : ) Pretty famous words: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/j/johnfkenn109213.html[^]

                              Life is too shor

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                              • P PIEBALDconsult

                                Marc Clifton wrote:

                                asked me for my GitHub account to see some sample code

                                I would never put up with that, and fortunately I don't need to. Nor would I give them my CP ID. If they want me to bring or send some code I will, but I wouldn't want them to see old and/or buggy code.

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                                Marc Clifton
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                                PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                Nor would I give them my CP ID

                                Well, my ID is public, it's easy enough to look up.

                                PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                but I wouldn't want them to see old and/or buggy code.

                                Personally, that's why what I post there has to meet a certain level of quality, otherwise it'll go into a private repo. Marc

                                Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project!

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                                • M megaadam

                                  It was a paraphrase. And a joke : ) Pretty famous words: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/j/johnfkenn109213.html[^]

                                  Life is too shor

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                                  Sander Rossel
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                                  Yeah, I know. It just didn't make any sense :laugh:

                                  My blog[^]

                                  public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                                  {
                                  public void DoWork()
                                  {
                                  throw new NotSupportedException();
                                  }
                                  }

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                                  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                    It seems like everybody is on GitHub nowadays. I'm not looking for source control or collaboration tools. I could share my code, but why would I? I don't have anything very interesting to share at the moment (or maybe some files for my blog/articles?). And I'm also not looking into contributing to other projects as I'm busy enough studying for my Open University courses. I understood GitHub is more than that (a social network? Can't be better than CP :)). I am kind of interested in what all the fuzz is about, but is it worth it for me to create a profile?

                                    My blog[^]

                                    public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                                    {
                                    public void DoWork()
                                    {
                                    throw new NotSupportedException();
                                    }
                                    }

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                                    devvvy
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                                    Most works for governments and banks is prohibited from Git! Directives from compliance. So *everyone* uses GIT is not even close.

                                    dev

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                                    • D Daniel Pfeffer

                                      Florian Rappl wrote:

                                      If you need something for internal projects, then GitHub is a weird choice anyway, as you could just go with, e.g., a GitLab instance, which is installed on premises

                                      Agreed. My point was that GitHub is not an appropriate place for proprietary code, the advantage of being able to access your code from anywhere being offset by the lack of security.

                                      If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                                      Florian Rappl
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                                      Yep, that's definitely true!

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                                      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                        It seems like everybody is on GitHub nowadays. I'm not looking for source control or collaboration tools. I could share my code, but why would I? I don't have anything very interesting to share at the moment (or maybe some files for my blog/articles?). And I'm also not looking into contributing to other projects as I'm busy enough studying for my Open University courses. I understood GitHub is more than that (a social network? Can't be better than CP :)). I am kind of interested in what all the fuzz is about, but is it worth it for me to create a profile?

                                        My blog[^]

                                        public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                                        {
                                        public void DoWork()
                                        {
                                        throw new NotSupportedException();
                                        }
                                        }

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                                        jschell
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                                        Sander Rossel wrote:

                                        I am kind of interested in what all the fuzz is about

                                        If one develops code, anywhere, then one should consider how relevant source control and back up are. The two are not the same. If one decides that either is prudent then one must then decide on a solution for that. Github fulfills the need for one, and might fulfill the need for the second since one might presume that github backs up its own content. (One should however verify the second.) In general from a professional point of view I wouldn't suggest relying only on a single business for a technical solution because businesses can and do run into trouble. But often it is sufficient to have ones content locally and then on an external source. However for a business (more that a couple of people) that probably isn't sufficient since there is data which is unlikely to be preserved on individual developer machines. That might be different when talking about a single individual however.

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                                        • F Florian Rappl

                                          I don't know if that last statement is a valid point against GitHub. If you use it for OSS projects, then you don't mind anyway [anyone can clone anyway - the license itself is very clear stated]. If you need something for internal projects, then GitHub is a weird choice anyway, as you could just go with, e.g., a GitLab instance, which is installed on premises. This gives you much more freedom, however, comes also with additional maintenance costs.

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                                          RASPeter
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                                          Git doesn't actually need a server. The only reason I can think of to use one is if you absolutely love web interfaces. Personally, I haven't found anything yet that I like better than GitExtensions, so even when I do use GitHub it's just cloud storage. For internal projects, just clone a "public" repo to a folder on an internal server. You can easily restrict access via your existing authentication system (ActiveDirectory in our case) if that's your bag, so no need to muck about with keys for ssl or anything. Easy-peasy, and very low maintenance.

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