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And here I was thinking that at least Apple wasn't evil

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  • M Mark_Wallace

    Welcome to my nightmare* * One of the best albums ever cut

    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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    Where is mister nice guy? No more mister nice guy? I can't find him anywhere!

    Geek code v 3.12 GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- r++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X // No comment

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      Where is mister nice guy? No more mister nice guy? I can't find him anywhere!

      Geek code v 3.12 GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- r++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X // No comment

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      Mark_Wallace
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      He used to be such a sweet, sweet thing...

      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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      • C Chris Maunder

        I'm setting up a Macbook with Bootcamp and I hit a roadblock:

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        Bootcamp only supports Windows 8 or later

        NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

        cheers Chris Maunder

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        Sander Rossel
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        I would sympathize, but...

        Chris Maunder wrote:

        I'm setting up a Macbook

        You're really asking for it... :rolleyes:

        Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

        Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

        Regards, Sander

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        • M Mark_Wallace

          He used to be such a sweet, sweet thing...

          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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          den2k88
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          Oh... but he's back! He just covered his face, he's the man behind the mask!

          Geek code v 3.12 GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- r++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X // No comment

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          • C Chris Maunder

            I'm setting up a Macbook with Bootcamp and I hit a roadblock:

            Quote:

            Bootcamp only supports Windows 8 or later

            NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

            cheers Chris Maunder

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            W Balboos GHB
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            Silly boy! Apple was "The Great Satan" long before the US.

            "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

            "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

            "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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            • C Chris Maunder

              I'm setting up a Macbook with Bootcamp and I hit a roadblock:

              Quote:

              Bootcamp only supports Windows 8 or later

              NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

              cheers Chris Maunder

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              Lost User
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              I thought Mac's didn't get viruses :)

              PooperPig - Coming Soon

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              • M Mark_Wallace

                He used to be such a sweet, sweet thing...

                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                That's what she said...

                #SupportHeForShe

                If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun Only 2 things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                • C Chris Maunder

                  I'm setting up a Macbook with Bootcamp and I hit a roadblock:

                  Quote:

                  Bootcamp only supports Windows 8 or later

                  NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

                  cheers Chris Maunder

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                  Lost User
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                  Ohhh - is it one of the new haptic-feedback ones?

                  PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                    Ohhh - is it one of the new haptic-feedback ones?

                    PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                    Chris Maunder
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                    No - the 13" Pro isn't much better than then Air (apart from the screen) and is heavier / lower battery life. I tried the haptic feedback and, well, it's a touch sensor that doesn't move but gives you a tickle when you press it. It's...OK, but a little weird. You'd stop noticing it after about a minute.

                    cheers Chris Maunder

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                    • C Chris Maunder

                      I'm setting up a Macbook with Bootcamp and I hit a roadblock:

                      Quote:

                      Bootcamp only supports Windows 8 or later

                      NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

                      cheers Chris Maunder

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                      Check your keyboard. I think the "O" key is stuck. :-D

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                      • C Chris Maunder

                        No - the 13" Pro isn't much better than then Air (apart from the screen) and is heavier / lower battery life. I tried the haptic feedback and, well, it's a touch sensor that doesn't move but gives you a tickle when you press it. It's...OK, but a little weird. You'd stop noticing it after about a minute.

                        cheers Chris Maunder

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                        Chris Maunder wrote:

                        the 13" Pro isn't much better than then Air (

                        ?! Are we talking 13" v 13" or the 11" air? On the 13" the pro is only .1 inch thicker, and 0.23 pounds heavier, has faster processor (2.7 vs 1.6 GHz) faster graphics processor, more Ram (as standard and upgradable maximum) a retina display vs 1440x900, an HDMI port as well as an extra Thunderbolt port .. and the funky touchpad! The battery is only rated at 2 hours more (12 vs 10 hours wireless browsing, and identical iTunes movie playback) and costs $400 more (AU) :( I guess for you jetsetters, the extra portability is important. But I want a buzzy touchpad!!!! (I'm disappointed in your review of the touchpad - my local apple store is a little too far away to just pop in and try one - but perhaps I will make the trip!) ... and Hardly Normals have 2 years nothing-to-pay interest-free on apples at the moment, but I don't think they have the new models yet.

                        PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                          I would sympathize, but...

                          Chris Maunder wrote:

                          I'm setting up a Macbook

                          You're really asking for it... :rolleyes:

                          Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                          Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                          Regards, Sander

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                          Chris Maunder
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                          Have you used a MacBook? I've been using one as my primary development machine and it's the best Windows machine I've ever had. Bar none.

                          cheers Chris Maunder

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                            Have you used a MacBook? I've been using one as my primary development machine and it's the best Windows machine I've ever had. Bar none.

                            cheers Chris Maunder

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                            I have. Let's just say that our experiences couldn't be further apart... It was the worst programming experience I ever had after Crystal Reports and DevForce :laugh: Well, to tell you the truth I worked on someone else's machine and none of us had really taken the time to learn the tools :) But no matter how awesome you think Apple is they still aren't exactly famous for being able to run all software out there. I think this rage comic explains it better[^] :laugh:

                            Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                            Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                            Regards, Sander

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                              Chris Maunder wrote:

                              the 13" Pro isn't much better than then Air (

                              ?! Are we talking 13" v 13" or the 11" air? On the 13" the pro is only .1 inch thicker, and 0.23 pounds heavier, has faster processor (2.7 vs 1.6 GHz) faster graphics processor, more Ram (as standard and upgradable maximum) a retina display vs 1440x900, an HDMI port as well as an extra Thunderbolt port .. and the funky touchpad! The battery is only rated at 2 hours more (12 vs 10 hours wireless browsing, and identical iTunes movie playback) and costs $400 more (AU) :( I guess for you jetsetters, the extra portability is important. But I want a buzzy touchpad!!!! (I'm disappointed in your review of the touchpad - my local apple store is a little too far away to just pop in and try one - but perhaps I will make the trip!) ... and Hardly Normals have 2 years nothing-to-pay interest-free on apples at the moment, but I don't think they have the new models yet.

                              PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                              13" vs 13". CPU is faster in the Pro, but only dual core in the 13". I tried a 13" Pro for a week and for what I do (Visual Studio, SQL Server, and Outlook with a 30GB PST), the extra CPU power made barely any difference (except the fan was even noisier, if possible, than the Air). I returned it. The trackpad is a fine trackpad - Apple make the best (and I've tried many, many trackpads). It just didn't blow me away like Apple wanted. It's..."nice". My conclusion with the Pro was: 1. It was too heavy 2. It was crazy expensive 3. The effective vertical resolution was 800px vs the Air's 900px (though you obviously could get more going non-native) 4. It was barely faster than the MacBook Air. 5. It didn't have anywhere near the battery life of the MacBook Air The latest update has helped with battery life, and I do miss 16GB vs 8GB, but I still went for the Air. 2X SSD speed compared to the old will make a HUGE improvement. I have a 21" iMac, quad core, and my SSD equipped Air runs rings around it due to the HDD instead of SSD in the iMac.

                              cheers Chris Maunder

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                              • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                I have. Let's just say that our experiences couldn't be further apart... It was the worst programming experience I ever had after Crystal Reports and DevForce :laugh: Well, to tell you the truth I worked on someone else's machine and none of us had really taken the time to learn the tools :) But no matter how awesome you think Apple is they still aren't exactly famous for being able to run all software out there. I think this rage comic explains it better[^] :laugh:

                                Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                                Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                Regards, Sander

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                                Chris Maunder
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                                You were running MacOS? I run Windows on Bootcamp. Much nicer.

                                cheers Chris Maunder

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                                  I thought Mac's didn't get viruses :)

                                  PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                                  Serdoc
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                                  Burn, lol!

                                  Cold Turkey...

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                                  • C Chris Maunder

                                    You were running MacOS? I run Windows on Bootcamp. Much nicer.

                                    cheers Chris Maunder

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                                    Wait, I read your original message wrong. I read MacOS doesn't support Bootcamp (what I wanted to read :laugh: ), but yeah I used MacOS. Why would you buy a Mac and then use Windows on it though? You can buy the same Windows PC for half that money :confused:

                                    Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                                    Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                    Regards, Sander

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                                    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                      Wait, I read your original message wrong. I read MacOS doesn't support Bootcamp (what I wanted to read :laugh: ), but yeah I used MacOS. Why would you buy a Mac and then use Windows on it though? You can buy the same Windows PC for half that money :confused:

                                      Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                                      Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                      Regards, Sander

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                                      Chris Maunder
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                                      Sander Rossel wrote:

                                      Why would you buy a Mac and then use Windows on it though

                                      Because the MAcBook Air is the best Windows laptop I've ever bought. (and no, you can't really buy the equivalent for half the money once you start comparing apples with apples. I thought I could too, but was surprised at the price parity)

                                      cheers Chris Maunder

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                                        Sander Rossel wrote:

                                        Why would you buy a Mac and then use Windows on it though

                                        Because the MAcBook Air is the best Windows laptop I've ever bought. (and no, you can't really buy the equivalent for half the money once you start comparing apples with apples. I thought I could too, but was surprised at the price parity)

                                        cheers Chris Maunder

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                                        Sander Rossel
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                                        Well as long as it keeps CP up and running I don't really care what you use :laugh: :thumbsup: After my previous Mac experiences I don't think I'll ever become a fan :)

                                        Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                                        Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                        Regards, Sander

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                                          13" vs 13". CPU is faster in the Pro, but only dual core in the 13". I tried a 13" Pro for a week and for what I do (Visual Studio, SQL Server, and Outlook with a 30GB PST), the extra CPU power made barely any difference (except the fan was even noisier, if possible, than the Air). I returned it. The trackpad is a fine trackpad - Apple make the best (and I've tried many, many trackpads). It just didn't blow me away like Apple wanted. It's..."nice". My conclusion with the Pro was: 1. It was too heavy 2. It was crazy expensive 3. The effective vertical resolution was 800px vs the Air's 900px (though you obviously could get more going non-native) 4. It was barely faster than the MacBook Air. 5. It didn't have anywhere near the battery life of the MacBook Air The latest update has helped with battery life, and I do miss 16GB vs 8GB, but I still went for the Air. 2X SSD speed compared to the old will make a HUGE improvement. I have a 21" iMac, quad core, and my SSD equipped Air runs rings around it due to the HDD instead of SSD in the iMac.

                                          cheers Chris Maunder

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                                          Chris Maunder wrote:

                                          I have a 21" iMac, quad core, and my SSD equipped Air runs rings around it due to the HDD instead of SSD in the iMac.

                                          Do what I did. Grab a Seagate Portable Thunderbolt Adapter (was AUD$114 when I bought it - exchange rate hike has made it more expensive from here!)[^] Grab an SSD - whichever takes your fancy Grab some bluetack Grab a thunderbolt cable Use a blob of bluetack under the drive to keep it level on the adapter (which is designed for Seagate's enclosed drive) and stick it behind your Mac Now either migrate your HD to SSD or (what I did) install Yosemite on the SSD and re-install just the stuff you want - while leaving the internal drive for less frequently accessed stuff. makes it feel like a new machine for a couple of hundred bucks! I can't believe I didn't do it earlier - Thunderbolt external SSD can be actually (slightly!) faster than an internal one! (I read it on the interwebs, so it must be true!)

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