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  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

    I have. Let's just say that our experiences couldn't be further apart... It was the worst programming experience I ever had after Crystal Reports and DevForce :laugh: Well, to tell you the truth I worked on someone else's machine and none of us had really taken the time to learn the tools :) But no matter how awesome you think Apple is they still aren't exactly famous for being able to run all software out there. I think this rage comic explains it better[^] :laugh:

    Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

    Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

    Regards, Sander

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    Chris Maunder
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    You were running MacOS? I run Windows on Bootcamp. Much nicer.

    cheers Chris Maunder

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      I thought Mac's didn't get viruses :)

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      Serdoc
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      Burn, lol!

      Cold Turkey...

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      • C Chris Maunder

        You were running MacOS? I run Windows on Bootcamp. Much nicer.

        cheers Chris Maunder

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        Sander Rossel
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        Wait, I read your original message wrong. I read MacOS doesn't support Bootcamp (what I wanted to read :laugh: ), but yeah I used MacOS. Why would you buy a Mac and then use Windows on it though? You can buy the same Windows PC for half that money :confused:

        Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

        Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

        Regards, Sander

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        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

          Wait, I read your original message wrong. I read MacOS doesn't support Bootcamp (what I wanted to read :laugh: ), but yeah I used MacOS. Why would you buy a Mac and then use Windows on it though? You can buy the same Windows PC for half that money :confused:

          Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

          Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

          Regards, Sander

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          Chris Maunder
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          Sander Rossel wrote:

          Why would you buy a Mac and then use Windows on it though

          Because the MAcBook Air is the best Windows laptop I've ever bought. (and no, you can't really buy the equivalent for half the money once you start comparing apples with apples. I thought I could too, but was surprised at the price parity)

          cheers Chris Maunder

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            Sander Rossel wrote:

            Why would you buy a Mac and then use Windows on it though

            Because the MAcBook Air is the best Windows laptop I've ever bought. (and no, you can't really buy the equivalent for half the money once you start comparing apples with apples. I thought I could too, but was surprised at the price parity)

            cheers Chris Maunder

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            Sander Rossel
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            Well as long as it keeps CP up and running I don't really care what you use :laugh: :thumbsup: After my previous Mac experiences I don't think I'll ever become a fan :)

            Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

            Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

            Regards, Sander

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            • C Chris Maunder

              13" vs 13". CPU is faster in the Pro, but only dual core in the 13". I tried a 13" Pro for a week and for what I do (Visual Studio, SQL Server, and Outlook with a 30GB PST), the extra CPU power made barely any difference (except the fan was even noisier, if possible, than the Air). I returned it. The trackpad is a fine trackpad - Apple make the best (and I've tried many, many trackpads). It just didn't blow me away like Apple wanted. It's..."nice". My conclusion with the Pro was: 1. It was too heavy 2. It was crazy expensive 3. The effective vertical resolution was 800px vs the Air's 900px (though you obviously could get more going non-native) 4. It was barely faster than the MacBook Air. 5. It didn't have anywhere near the battery life of the MacBook Air The latest update has helped with battery life, and I do miss 16GB vs 8GB, but I still went for the Air. 2X SSD speed compared to the old will make a HUGE improvement. I have a 21" iMac, quad core, and my SSD equipped Air runs rings around it due to the HDD instead of SSD in the iMac.

              cheers Chris Maunder

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              Lost User
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              Chris Maunder wrote:

              I have a 21" iMac, quad core, and my SSD equipped Air runs rings around it due to the HDD instead of SSD in the iMac.

              Do what I did. Grab a Seagate Portable Thunderbolt Adapter (was AUD$114 when I bought it - exchange rate hike has made it more expensive from here!)[^] Grab an SSD - whichever takes your fancy Grab some bluetack Grab a thunderbolt cable Use a blob of bluetack under the drive to keep it level on the adapter (which is designed for Seagate's enclosed drive) and stick it behind your Mac Now either migrate your HD to SSD or (what I did) install Yosemite on the SSD and re-install just the stuff you want - while leaving the internal drive for less frequently accessed stuff. makes it feel like a new machine for a couple of hundred bucks! I can't believe I didn't do it earlier - Thunderbolt external SSD can be actually (slightly!) faster than an internal one! (I read it on the interwebs, so it must be true!)

              PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                Sander Rossel wrote:

                Why would you buy a Mac and then use Windows on it though

                Because the MAcBook Air is the best Windows laptop I've ever bought. (and no, you can't really buy the equivalent for half the money once you start comparing apples with apples. I thought I could too, but was surprised at the price parity)

                cheers Chris Maunder

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                Tom Deketelaere
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                Chris Maunder wrote:

                and no, you can't really buy the equivalent for half the money once you start comparing apples with apples. I thought I could too, but was surprised at the price parity

                Really? Well I don't know about the laptops so I'll take your word for it. But in the desktop area last I checked that 'pc is half the price of an apple' was pretty accurate (k might not be exactly half the price but...) Disclamer: last I checked was 8 years ago so much may have changed :) Either way I think I'll stick with putting my own pc's together. It has served me well, last pc lasted 9 years (without having to re-install or any issues at all) and the only thing that broke at the end was the ssd (but I figured I'd replace the whole thing at once ;P )

                Tom

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                • C Chris Maunder

                  I'm setting up a Macbook with Bootcamp and I hit a roadblock:

                  Quote:

                  Bootcamp only supports Windows 8 or later

                  NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

                  cheers Chris Maunder

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                  Jorgen Andersson
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                  :doh:

                  Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                    I'm setting up a Macbook with Bootcamp and I hit a roadblock:

                    Quote:

                    Bootcamp only supports Windows 8 or later

                    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

                    cheers Chris Maunder

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                    David ONeil
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                    So this page[^] is lying?

                    My CodeProject Articles :: Our forgotten astronomic heritage :: My website.
                    "Sorry, buddy, but this mission counts on everyone being as silent as possible, and your farts are just too much of a wildcard." - Korra to Meelo, "Kuvira's Gambit"

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                      So this page[^] is lying?

                      My CodeProject Articles :: Our forgotten astronomic heritage :: My website.
                      "Sorry, buddy, but this mission counts on everyone being as silent as possible, and your farts are just too much of a wildcard." - Korra to Meelo, "Kuvira's Gambit"

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                      Lost User
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                      No - it clearly states that the MacBook Air (13-inch, Early 2015) only supports windows 8 64 bit.

                      PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                      • D den2k88

                        Oh... but he's back! He just covered his face, he's the man behind the mask!

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                        Mark_Wallace
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                        You can actually buy Alice face masks, for occasions when you want to look like a really old man wearing too much make-up.

                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                        • W W Balboos GHB

                          Silly boy! Apple was "The Great Satan" long before the US.

                          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                          "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

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                          Mark_Wallace
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                          Nah, that's adobe. Apple can't even be best at being worst.

                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                          • C Chris Maunder

                            I'm setting up a Macbook with Bootcamp and I hit a roadblock:

                            Quote:

                            Bootcamp only supports Windows 8 or later

                            NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

                            cheers Chris Maunder

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                            Roger Wright
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                            :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: You crack me up, Chris! Apple invented evil; Microsoft just stole it and perfected it.

                            Will Rogers never met me.

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                              I'm setting up a Macbook with Bootcamp and I hit a roadblock:

                              Quote:

                              Bootcamp only supports Windows 8 or later

                              NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

                              cheers Chris Maunder

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                              JimmyRopes
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                              Chris Maunder wrote:

                              I'm setting up a Macbook

                              It just works. :-D

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                                I'm setting up a Macbook with Bootcamp and I hit a roadblock:

                                Quote:

                                Bootcamp only supports Windows 8 or later

                                NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

                                cheers Chris Maunder

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                                sir_download_alot
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                                Isn't that like riding a bicycle in a bus on a bumpy road to Kandahar?

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                                • D den2k88

                                  Where is mister nice guy? No more mister nice guy? I can't find him anywhere!

                                  Geek code v 3.12 GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- r++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X // No comment

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                                  Simon ORiordan from UK
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                                  Honestly, I don't understand the North American conviction that 'Apple' is a synonym for easy, or quality, or 'the best'. It takes people who want a no-brainer option and gives it to them. With a hefty price hike and a locked in ecosystem. Obviously the gear is nice, but utterly inflexible and enormously expensive. If only closed-source drivers kept up with Linux a little more or opened the source code, we would have a universally good and cheap alternative without lock-in. :)

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                                    I'm setting up a Macbook with Bootcamp and I hit a roadblock:

                                    Quote:

                                    Bootcamp only supports Windows 8 or later

                                    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

                                    cheers Chris Maunder

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                                    Keith Barrow
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                                    But Mac users don't need any other version of Windows. Must be true because Apple has decreed it.

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                                      I'm setting up a Macbook with Bootcamp and I hit a roadblock:

                                      Quote:

                                      Bootcamp only supports Windows 8 or later

                                      NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

                                      cheers Chris Maunder

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                                      Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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                                      I thought it was Apple policy to ONLY support the current version, backward compatibility - phooy

                                      You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                                      • C Chris Maunder

                                        Sander Rossel wrote:

                                        Why would you buy a Mac and then use Windows on it though

                                        Because the MAcBook Air is the best Windows laptop I've ever bought. (and no, you can't really buy the equivalent for half the money once you start comparing apples with apples. I thought I could too, but was surprised at the price parity)

                                        cheers Chris Maunder

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                                        Fabio Franco
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                                        Chris Maunder wrote:

                                        (and no, you can't really buy the equivalent for half the money once you start comparing apples with apples. I thought I could too, but was surprised at the price parity

                                        Of course not, making better laptops as pretty as the macbook air got to be expensive. :laugh:

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                                          Chris Maunder wrote:

                                          I have a 21" iMac, quad core, and my SSD equipped Air runs rings around it due to the HDD instead of SSD in the iMac.

                                          Do what I did. Grab a Seagate Portable Thunderbolt Adapter (was AUD$114 when I bought it - exchange rate hike has made it more expensive from here!)[^] Grab an SSD - whichever takes your fancy Grab some bluetack Grab a thunderbolt cable Use a blob of bluetack under the drive to keep it level on the adapter (which is designed for Seagate's enclosed drive) and stick it behind your Mac Now either migrate your HD to SSD or (what I did) install Yosemite on the SSD and re-install just the stuff you want - while leaving the internal drive for less frequently accessed stuff. makes it feel like a new machine for a couple of hundred bucks! I can't believe I didn't do it earlier - Thunderbolt external SSD can be actually (slightly!) faster than an internal one! (I read it on the interwebs, so it must be true!)

                                          PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                                          Chris Maunder
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                                          Actually, I bought one of these[^]

                                          cheers Chris Maunder

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