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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    Nagy Vilmos wrote:

    Never, ever test your code, that way you have more time to write rubbish drink Gin!

    FTFY! OT: How did the dentist go?

    Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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    Two deep rooted buggers removed with large pliers and 8 novacains

    veni bibi saltavi

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      Two deep rooted buggers removed with large pliers and 8 novacains

      veni bibi saltavi

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      And when does the dentist get out of intensive care?

      Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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      "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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      • V VijayPd

        Is :wtf: Unit Testing is most boring activity for Developer

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        Marc Clifton
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        Member 11547329 wrote:

        Is Unit Testing is most boring activity for Developer

        Whenever I am bored doing programming, I ask myself, why can't the computer do this, which has led to some interesting tools over the years. I still don't see why we don't have tools that generate the unit tests for us. I mean, it really isn't that hard if we were only to apply ourselves to the problem. Marc

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        • A Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan

          Funny thing is, I don't even know what "_Unit tests_" are. :laugh: I did go to [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit\_testing) to learn something... Ended up yawning! :zzz: There was no challenge, just boring text... _[Lorem ipsum](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorem\_ipsum)_ sounds better than that.

          The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~

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          Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan wrote:

          Ended up yawning!

          I hope my e-book[^] on the subject isn't a yawner! ;) Marc

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            Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan wrote:

            Ended up yawning!

            I hope my e-book[^] on the subject isn't a yawner! ;) Marc

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            Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan
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            I will try yawning enough before clicking on the link... ;) Thank you very much (have a +1 as thank you) for your e-book, Marc. I will give it a read thoroughly right away. :)

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              I will try yawning enough before clicking on the link... ;) Thank you very much (have a +1 as thank you) for your e-book, Marc. I will give it a read thoroughly right away. :)

              The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~

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              Marc Clifton
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              Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan wrote:

              Marc. I will give it a read thoroughly right away.

              Heh, well, it's ok if you yawn through it too. But I would enjoy hearing your thoughts about it! Marc

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              • V VijayPd

                Is :wtf: Unit Testing is most boring activity for Developer

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                PIEBALDconsult
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                I test my unit frequently... :omg: Oh! You mean code! Ummm, yeah, I do that too. :-O

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                • M Marc Clifton

                  Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan wrote:

                  Ended up yawning!

                  I hope my e-book[^] on the subject isn't a yawner! ;) Marc

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                  VijayPd
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                  Hi Afzaal, Cool Answer :)

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                  • V VijayPd

                    Is :wtf: Unit Testing is most boring activity for Developer

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                    Ravi Bhavnani
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                    Boring beats staying up till 4:00am trying to fix a critical bug in production. /ravi

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                      Member 11547329 wrote:

                      Is Unit Testing is most boring activity for Developer

                      Whenever I am bored doing programming, I ask myself, why can't the computer do this, which has led to some interesting tools over the years. I still don't see why we don't have tools that generate the unit tests for us. I mean, it really isn't that hard if we were only to apply ourselves to the problem. Marc

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                      Ravi Bhavnani
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                      Marc Clifton wrote:

                      I still don't see why we don't have tools that generate the unit tests for us.

                      Clickety[^] :) /ravi

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                      • R Ravi Bhavnani

                        Marc Clifton wrote:

                        I still don't see why we don't have tools that generate the unit tests for us.

                        Clickety[^] :) /ravi

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                        Ravi Bhavnani wrote:

                        Clickety[^]

                        True, but I've never tried, as I expect to be disappointed. Have you tried it? Marc

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                        • R Ravi Bhavnani

                          Boring beats staying up till 4:00am trying to fix a critical bug in production. /ravi

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                          Ravi, I agree wid u. I also face this problem several times.

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                            Ravi Bhavnani wrote:

                            Clickety[^]

                            True, but I've never tried, as I expect to be disappointed. Have you tried it? Marc

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                            Ravi Bhavnani
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                            No, I haven't tried it.  I've been building my unit tests manually so far.  Admittedly, I don't test every method and property - just (what I deem to be) points of failure. /ravi

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                              Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan wrote:

                              Ended up yawning!

                              I hope my e-book[^] on the subject isn't a yawner! ;) Marc

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                              Daniel Pfeffer
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                              Thanks for the link. It's always useful to read a different perspective on an important subject.

                              If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                No, the most boring activity a developer can be involved in is a four hour meeting you have to attend, of which the last five minutes are relevant to your job. If you are lucky. And then ***someone*** will say "oh, just one other thing..." And that'll add another hour or two.

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                                Behzad Sedighzadeh
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                                You are absolutely right!

                                Behzad

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                                • V VijayPd

                                  Is :wtf: Unit Testing is most boring activity for Developer

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                                  menomey
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                                  booooring

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                                  • M Marc Clifton

                                    Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan wrote:

                                    Ended up yawning!

                                    I hope my e-book[^] on the subject isn't a yawner! ;) Marc

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                                    carlospc1970
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                                    oh! Thank you! :) :thumbsup:

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                                      Ravi Bhavnani wrote:

                                      Clickety[^]

                                      True, but I've never tried, as I expect to be disappointed. Have you tried it? Marc

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                                      I haven't either; but it looks like it's just a test stub generator. You'd still have to do the hard work of writing any non-trivial setup code, and then actually writing meaningful test content. The one in VS08/10 was a major waste of time IMO; and it appears MS agrees with me since based on the comments there they yanked it from 2012. I've also played a bit with MS's automagic unit testing tool back around the New Year. While it fell well short of its "cover your legacy code in a single button click" hype; if you're writing readily testable code now it seemed like it might be able to generate good test coverage of it. Things like non-trivial state setup, logic in winform event handlers, or classes with tight coupling to the file system all defeated it; unfortunately my un-unit tested legacy .net code is riddled with those constructs making it mostly useless to me. (Even aside from only having MSDN pro - and the feature apparently being limited to the rebranded Premium tier.)

                                      Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                                        Is :wtf: Unit Testing is most boring activity for Developer

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                                        madprogrammi
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                                        I've never unit tested. Unless running the program in a debugger, handing my keyboard to a small child, and telling them "Smash a ton of keys" counts. :laugh:

                                        When I talk to people who don't even know what source code is, I open an editor window and say "This is what we go through every time you find a bug!"

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                                          SeattleC
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                                          No, there are worse things many times more boring than unit testing. Like spending three months looking for a decent job because your last company imploded due to all the unfixed bugs. Like spending a week hunting for a bug in your colleague's code who thought unit testing was boring so he didn't bother. Like waiting six months for your cool new feature to go live because your testing organization only does system test, and therefore can only afford to release twice a year.

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