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  • L Lost User

    But isn't that essentially the only reason "we" use anything? I mean yes, I could write a Deflater from scratch, but I'll use zlib to reduce the amount of code I have to type..

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    harold aptroot wrote:

    I mean yes, I could write a Deflater from scratch, but I'll use zlib to reduce the amount of code I have to type..

    Well no actually, it's because someone's written it, tested it, and it's a shit load of code to write. But when it's something (think of a C macro, for example) that just obfuscates the code, that's what I mean. See my rant below this one. :) Marc

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      I absolutely despise when people say "oh, I'm using this because it reduces the amount of code I have to type". F**** me. If you don't like typing, why are you a programmer? I need a punching bag in my home-office. Marc

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      PIEBALDconsult
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      Same thing I see with Linq/Lambdas ; it's still just the Cult of Fewer Keystrokes. X|

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        I absolutely despise when people say "oh, I'm using this because it reduces the amount of code I have to type". F**** me. If you don't like typing, why are you a programmer? I need a punching bag in my home-office. Marc

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        I find this[^] to be somewhat therapeutic! :)

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        • P PIEBALDconsult

          Same thing I see with Linq/Lambdas ; it's still just the Cult of Fewer Keystrokes. X|

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          Lost User
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          Also var everywhere X|

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          • L Lost User

            Also var everywhere X|

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            PIEBALDconsult
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            Oh, yes, but I include that as part of Linq -- given that it was only added to support Linq's/Lambda's anonymous types.

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            • L Lost User

              Also var everywhere X|

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              I use (our team uses) var, where applicable. Nothing wrong with it, unless you are using notepad to edit your code. :)

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                I use (our team uses) var, where applicable. Nothing wrong with it, unless you are using notepad to edit your code. :)

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                Are you one of Those People who use var instead of int? If so, why the hell?

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                • L Lost User

                  Are you one of Those People who use var instead of int? If so, why the hell?

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                  Slacker007
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                  harold aptroot wrote:

                  Are you one of Those People who use var instead of int?

                  no. I did say "where applicable". We use var on list returns and some lamda/linq stuff, but not everywhere. Edit: I have never run into an issue with "var". Visual Studio lets me know what the type is, if I need to know it.

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                    harold aptroot wrote:

                    Are you one of Those People who use var instead of int?

                    no. I did say "where applicable". We use var on list returns and some lamda/linq stuff, but not everywhere. Edit: I have never run into an issue with "var". Visual Studio lets me know what the type is, if I need to know it.

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                    Ok good.

                    Slacker007 wrote:

                    "where applicable"

                    Well that's the thing. There's a school of thought that it is applicable any time it is allowed.

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                    • L Lost User

                      Are you one of Those People who use var instead of int? If so, why the hell?

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                      Mauro Leggieri
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                      To obfuscate variable type ;P

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                      • L Lost User

                        Ok good.

                        Slacker007 wrote:

                        "where applicable"

                        Well that's the thing. There's a school of thought that it is applicable any time it is allowed.

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                        harold aptroot wrote:

                        There's a school of thought that it is applicable any time it is allowed.

                        I use ReSharper a lot, and it will ask you everytime it can to use implicit type declaration. So, I can see why some devs out there may think that it is good for everything. However, I have debugged code files that have had "var" all over the place, and it has not been an issue. If for some reason, I cannot tell the type, then hovering over "var" will tell you.

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                          harold aptroot wrote:

                          There's a school of thought that it is applicable any time it is allowed.

                          I use ReSharper a lot, and it will ask you everytime it can to use implicit type declaration. So, I can see why some devs out there may think that it is good for everything. However, I have debugged code files that have had "var" all over the place, and it has not been an issue. If for some reason, I cannot tell the type, then hovering over "var" will tell you.

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                          Pete OHanlon
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                          Try doing a code review in Crucible where someone's abused var and then see how you feel about that. ;)

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                            I absolutely despise when people say "oh, I'm using this because it reduces the amount of code I have to type". F**** me. If you don't like typing, why are you a programmer? I need a punching bag in my home-office. Marc

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                            Mladen Jankovic
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                            Marc Clifton wrote:

                            If you don't like typing, why are you a programmer?

                            Dunno, money? But seriously, it's the most boring part.

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                            • L Lost User

                              Are you one of Those People who use var instead of int? If so, why the hell?

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                              Mladen Jankovic
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                              I am. Why the hell not? It's more aesthetically pleasing and in most cases it does not reduce readability (for me, for you - don't care). I haven't use it much in C# before C++11 assigned new meaning to auto. Then I started replacing crap like this std::unordered_map<std::string, boring_class>::const_iterator with auto and then moved the habit to C#.

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                                harold aptroot wrote:

                                Are you one of Those People who use var instead of int?

                                no. I did say "where applicable". We use var on list returns and some lamda/linq stuff, but not everywhere. Edit: I have never run into an issue with "var". Visual Studio lets me know what the type is, if I need to know it.

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                                PIEBALDconsult
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                                Slacker007 wrote:

                                Visual Studio lets me know what the type is, if I need to know it.

                                Irrelevent. Try reading newbie code posted in QA.

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                                • M Marc Clifton

                                  I absolutely despise when people say "oh, I'm using this because it reduces the amount of code I have to type". F**** me. If you don't like typing, why are you a programmer? I need a punching bag in my home-office. Marc

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                                  Mark_Wallace
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                                  Marc Clifton wrote:

                                  If you don't like typing, why are you a programmer?

                                  Voice control is always an option. I know devs who'd happily use it very loudly when inputting code that they (erroneously) believe to be genius, and only use the keyboard to input their dirty hacks. I'd say that there's a possible connection between those guys and your guys.

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                                    I am. Why the hell not? It's more aesthetically pleasing and in most cases it does not reduce readability (for me, for you - don't care). I haven't use it much in C# before C++11 assigned new meaning to auto. Then I started replacing crap like this std::unordered_map<std::string, boring_class>::const_iterator with auto and then moved the habit to C#.

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                                    Slacker007
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                                    Thank you. Exactly.

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                                      I absolutely despise when people say "oh, I'm using this because it reduces the amount of code I have to type". F**** me. If you don't like typing, why are you a programmer? I need a punching bag in my home-office. Marc

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                                      Thank you, I needed a good chuckle this morning. I do enjoy your rants, they align with my thinking rather nicely.

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                                        I absolutely despise when people say "oh, I'm using this because it reduces the amount of code I have to type". F**** me. If you don't like typing, why are you a programmer? I need a punching bag in my home-office. Marc

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                                        Abhinav S
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                                        Marc Clifton wrote:

                                        oh, I'm using this because it reduces the amount of code I have to type

                                        Have you used LINQ? Do you know it reduces the amount of.....Oops.

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                                        • P PIEBALDconsult

                                          Same thing I see with Linq/Lambdas ; it's still just the Cult of Fewer Keystrokes. X|

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                                          PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                          Same thing I see with Linq/Lambdas ; it's still just the Cult of Fewer Keystrokes. X|

                                          I really like linq/lambdas. They unify the way many various things are accessed, and in my opinion make the code more readable. Just my opinion. Your mileage may vary.

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