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  • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

    Coder For Hire wrote:

    Curious if your interested in ...

    Avoid any recruiter who doesn't know the difference between "your" and "you're". :doh:


    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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    Kevin Marois
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    Right?? The more I look at it, it looks like a phising expedition.

    If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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      1. Just got this email from someone unknown: Hi, Curious if your interested in chatting with me or if you know any rock star developers who would be interested to learn more about a consulting role? Cheers! Kon Kruglyak - "Am I interested in chatting with you???" - "Rock Star"??
      2. Had a pre-interview screening with a "recruiter" last week. When I got on the phone with her She sounded about 12 and first said "Oh my God I'm so excited!!!" in a little girls voice. I thought "You're sooo exited???" - about WHAT? doing your job?? She then proceeds to question me about C# & SQL. The questions she asked were bizarre to say the least. I thought, I've never heard some of this before" so I asked her to send me the questions so I could research. She says, "Well I made up this list based on conversations I've had with developers" - I said "So you have no clue what your asking, and I could probably lose the chance at a job because YOU made up some questions?". She said "Well I think the questions are right" - I hung up. 3) Another little gem.... this woman recruiter puts this line in EVERY job posting: "You need some serious technical chops for this position" Sometimes I laugh, sometimes I cry.

      If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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      den2k88
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      Sometimes they remind me of this[^].

      Geek code v 3.12 GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- r++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X I use 1TBS

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      • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

        Coder For Hire wrote:

        Curious if your interested in ...

        Avoid any recruiter who doesn't know the difference between "your" and "you're". :doh:


        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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        Lost User
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        Nine out of ten positions advertised for contain spelling mistakes. And no, they don't like it if you point it out :thumbsup:

        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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          Nine out of ten positions advertised for contain spelling mistakes. And no, they don't like it if you point it out :thumbsup:

          Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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          Richard Deeming
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          Eddy Vluggen wrote:

          And no, they don't like it if you point it out

          Even if they're advertising for a proof-reader? :rolleyes:


          "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

          "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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          • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

            Coder For Hire wrote:

            Curious if your interested in ...

            Avoid any recruiter who doesn't know the difference between "your" and "you're". :doh:


            "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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            Kevin Marois
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            he just emailed me AGAIN! "Hi Kevin, Curious if your interested in chatting with me or if you know any anwesome developers who would be interested to learn more about a consulting role? Cheers! Kon Kruglyak Senior Technical Recruiter"

            If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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              he just emailed me AGAIN! "Hi Kevin, Curious if your interested in chatting with me or if you know any anwesome developers who would be interested to learn more about a consulting role? Cheers! Kon Kruglyak Senior Technical Recruiter"

              If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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              Richard Deeming
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              Coder For Hire wrote:

              anwesome

              :doh: It seems to be a relatively common mistake - Google has nearly 11,000 results for "anwesome".


              "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

              "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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              • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                Coder For Hire wrote:

                anwesome

                :doh: It seems to be a relatively common mistake - Google has nearly 11,000 results for "anwesome".


                "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                if he kuld spel he myte do bedder

                If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                  if he kuld spel he myte do bedder

                  If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                  Eye halve a spelling chequer It came with my pea sea It plainly marques four my revue Miss steaks eye kin knot sea. Eye strike a key and type a word And weight four it two say Weather eye am wrong oar write It shows me strait a weigh. As soon as a mist ache is maid It nose bee fore two long And eye can put the error rite Its rare lea ever wrong. Eye have run this poem threw it I am shore your pleased two no Its letter perfect awl the weigh My chequer tolled me sew.


                  "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                  "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                  • K Kevin Marois

                    if he kuld spel he myte do bedder

                    If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                    Sascha Lefevre
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                    who ceras? accdornig to a sutdy pfroeermd by cmabirgde uirnvetsiy...

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                    • K Kevin Marois
                      1. Just got this email from someone unknown: Hi, Curious if your interested in chatting with me or if you know any rock star developers who would be interested to learn more about a consulting role? Cheers! Kon Kruglyak - "Am I interested in chatting with you???" - "Rock Star"??
                      2. Had a pre-interview screening with a "recruiter" last week. When I got on the phone with her She sounded about 12 and first said "Oh my God I'm so excited!!!" in a little girls voice. I thought "You're sooo exited???" - about WHAT? doing your job?? She then proceeds to question me about C# & SQL. The questions she asked were bizarre to say the least. I thought, I've never heard some of this before" so I asked her to send me the questions so I could research. She says, "Well I made up this list based on conversations I've had with developers" - I said "So you have no clue what your asking, and I could probably lose the chance at a job because YOU made up some questions?". She said "Well I think the questions are right" - I hung up. 3) Another little gem.... this woman recruiter puts this line in EVERY job posting: "You need some serious technical chops for this position" Sometimes I laugh, sometimes I cry.

                      If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                      Dave Kreskowiak
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                      I got so sick of that shit I went to a direct job.

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                      Click this: Asking questions is a skill. Seriously, do it.
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                      • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                        Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                        And no, they don't like it if you point it out

                        Even if they're advertising for a proof-reader? :rolleyes:


                        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                        OriginalGriff
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                        DUH! That's why they need the proof reader! :laugh:

                        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

                        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                        "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                        • D Dave Kreskowiak

                          I got so sick of that shit I went to a direct job.

                          A guide to posting questions on CodeProject

                          Click this: Asking questions is a skill. Seriously, do it.
                          Dave Kreskowiak

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                          Kevin Marois
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                          Agreed, but these are all for direct jobs, not contract. Many companies are going the route of using recruiters to weed out the bad apples. The only way in is through them. The problem is the recruiters often time don't know wtf their talking about, and it's like talking to a 3 year old. So you can lose out on a potential job because of an idiot recruiter. I once had one ask me "How many years of WPF do you have?". I said about 5. He then said, "And how many years of XAML do you have?" I proceeded to explain that XAML is part of WPF. He said, "No they're different things". I broke it down for him and even after explain it, he said "Um, ok, let's move on". What an ultra-maroon!

                          If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                            Agreed, but these are all for direct jobs, not contract. Many companies are going the route of using recruiters to weed out the bad apples. The only way in is through them. The problem is the recruiters often time don't know wtf their talking about, and it's like talking to a 3 year old. So you can lose out on a potential job because of an idiot recruiter. I once had one ask me "How many years of WPF do you have?". I said about 5. He then said, "And how many years of XAML do you have?" I proceeded to explain that XAML is part of WPF. He said, "No they're different things". I broke it down for him and even after explain it, he said "Um, ok, let's move on". What an ultra-maroon!

                            If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                            Richard Deeming
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                            Coder For Hire wrote:

                            I proceeded to explain that XAML is part of WPF.

                            It's not quite as stupid as it sounds. XAML is also used in Windows Workflow Foundation, Silverlight, and Windows Store apps; it's not limited to WPF applications. It's also possible to write WPF applications without using XAML. It's not pretty, easy, or recommended, but it can be done. :)


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                            "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                            • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                              Coder For Hire wrote:

                              I proceeded to explain that XAML is part of WPF.

                              It's not quite as stupid as it sounds. XAML is also used in Windows Workflow Foundation, Silverlight, and Windows Store apps; it's not limited to WPF applications. It's also possible to write WPF applications without using XAML. It's not pretty, easy, or recommended, but it can be done. :)


                              "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                              Kevin Marois
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                              Sure, but if you know WPF, the know XAML.

                              If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                              • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                                Coder For Hire wrote:

                                anwesome

                                :doh: It seems to be a relatively common mistake - Google has nearly 11,000 results for "anwesome".


                                "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                                Mark_Wallace
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                                How and why??? The n is nowhere near either the a or the w; that makes it learned behaviour! I dunno. Kids these days...

                                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                • K Kevin Marois
                                  1. Just got this email from someone unknown: Hi, Curious if your interested in chatting with me or if you know any rock star developers who would be interested to learn more about a consulting role? Cheers! Kon Kruglyak - "Am I interested in chatting with you???" - "Rock Star"??
                                  2. Had a pre-interview screening with a "recruiter" last week. When I got on the phone with her She sounded about 12 and first said "Oh my God I'm so excited!!!" in a little girls voice. I thought "You're sooo exited???" - about WHAT? doing your job?? She then proceeds to question me about C# & SQL. The questions she asked were bizarre to say the least. I thought, I've never heard some of this before" so I asked her to send me the questions so I could research. She says, "Well I made up this list based on conversations I've had with developers" - I said "So you have no clue what your asking, and I could probably lose the chance at a job because YOU made up some questions?". She said "Well I think the questions are right" - I hung up. 3) Another little gem.... this woman recruiter puts this line in EVERY job posting: "You need some serious technical chops for this position" Sometimes I laugh, sometimes I cry.

                                  If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                                  Mark_Wallace
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                                  There's no governing body for that kind of work, so any idiot with a telephone can just pick it up and start talking to companies and candidates. Even the most useless of them will manage to get some roles filled -- and the rates they charge allow them to live very comfortably with not very many placements. Yes, they're idiots, otherwise they would be doing something real, but it's a field where the bull-headed idiot is most likely to succeed. Intelligent people would try to do the job well, and so lose out on a lot of the money-for-nothing aspect of it.

                                  Coder For Hire wrote:

                                  "You need some serious technical chops for this position"

                                  If you don't tell me how many letters, I'm not even going to try.

                                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                    1. Just got this email from someone unknown: Hi, Curious if your interested in chatting with me or if you know any rock star developers who would be interested to learn more about a consulting role? Cheers! Kon Kruglyak - "Am I interested in chatting with you???" - "Rock Star"??
                                    2. Had a pre-interview screening with a "recruiter" last week. When I got on the phone with her She sounded about 12 and first said "Oh my God I'm so excited!!!" in a little girls voice. I thought "You're sooo exited???" - about WHAT? doing your job?? She then proceeds to question me about C# & SQL. The questions she asked were bizarre to say the least. I thought, I've never heard some of this before" so I asked her to send me the questions so I could research. She says, "Well I made up this list based on conversations I've had with developers" - I said "So you have no clue what your asking, and I could probably lose the chance at a job because YOU made up some questions?". She said "Well I think the questions are right" - I hung up. 3) Another little gem.... this woman recruiter puts this line in EVERY job posting: "You need some serious technical chops for this position" Sometimes I laugh, sometimes I cry.

                                    If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                                    sir_download_alot
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                                    Recruiters = dregs' of society. Right after care salesman.

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                                      1. Just got this email from someone unknown: Hi, Curious if your interested in chatting with me or if you know any rock star developers who would be interested to learn more about a consulting role? Cheers! Kon Kruglyak - "Am I interested in chatting with you???" - "Rock Star"??
                                      2. Had a pre-interview screening with a "recruiter" last week. When I got on the phone with her She sounded about 12 and first said "Oh my God I'm so excited!!!" in a little girls voice. I thought "You're sooo exited???" - about WHAT? doing your job?? She then proceeds to question me about C# & SQL. The questions she asked were bizarre to say the least. I thought, I've never heard some of this before" so I asked her to send me the questions so I could research. She says, "Well I made up this list based on conversations I've had with developers" - I said "So you have no clue what your asking, and I could probably lose the chance at a job because YOU made up some questions?". She said "Well I think the questions are right" - I hung up. 3) Another little gem.... this woman recruiter puts this line in EVERY job posting: "You need some serious technical chops for this position" Sometimes I laugh, sometimes I cry.

                                      If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                                      Stefto
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                                      Coder For Hire wrote:

                                      Rock Star"??

                                      wait, you guys don't program on a guitar?!

                                      Life's like a nose, you've got to get out of it whats in it!

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                                        1. Just got this email from someone unknown: Hi, Curious if your interested in chatting with me or if you know any rock star developers who would be interested to learn more about a consulting role? Cheers! Kon Kruglyak - "Am I interested in chatting with you???" - "Rock Star"??
                                        2. Had a pre-interview screening with a "recruiter" last week. When I got on the phone with her She sounded about 12 and first said "Oh my God I'm so excited!!!" in a little girls voice. I thought "You're sooo exited???" - about WHAT? doing your job?? She then proceeds to question me about C# & SQL. The questions she asked were bizarre to say the least. I thought, I've never heard some of this before" so I asked her to send me the questions so I could research. She says, "Well I made up this list based on conversations I've had with developers" - I said "So you have no clue what your asking, and I could probably lose the chance at a job because YOU made up some questions?". She said "Well I think the questions are right" - I hung up. 3) Another little gem.... this woman recruiter puts this line in EVERY job posting: "You need some serious technical chops for this position" Sometimes I laugh, sometimes I cry.

                                        If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                                        Brady Kelly
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                                        Coder For Hire wrote:

                                        if your interested

                                        Tell the recruiter, "If you're grammar was better, I might reconsider."

                                        No object is so beautiful that, under certain conditions, it will not look ugly. - Oscar Wilde

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                                        • K Kevin Marois
                                          1. Just got this email from someone unknown: Hi, Curious if your interested in chatting with me or if you know any rock star developers who would be interested to learn more about a consulting role? Cheers! Kon Kruglyak - "Am I interested in chatting with you???" - "Rock Star"??
                                          2. Had a pre-interview screening with a "recruiter" last week. When I got on the phone with her She sounded about 12 and first said "Oh my God I'm so excited!!!" in a little girls voice. I thought "You're sooo exited???" - about WHAT? doing your job?? She then proceeds to question me about C# & SQL. The questions she asked were bizarre to say the least. I thought, I've never heard some of this before" so I asked her to send me the questions so I could research. She says, "Well I made up this list based on conversations I've had with developers" - I said "So you have no clue what your asking, and I could probably lose the chance at a job because YOU made up some questions?". She said "Well I think the questions are right" - I hung up. 3) Another little gem.... this woman recruiter puts this line in EVERY job posting: "You need some serious technical chops for this position" Sometimes I laugh, sometimes I cry.

                                          If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                                          Ri_
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                                          I think recruiters should be interviewed even more stringently than potential employees. How can you trust your process to people who can't recognise quality or even know what they're talking about? Think of all the job seekers who dealt with your 3-year old with the bizarre questions and just put the phone down. Most of my jobs came through friend referrals or direct applications, generally because recruiters just don't know the difference between the different technologies and languages :confused: Not hard to Google it, Recruiters, just like we do :laugh:

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