VS SP's Question
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Coder For Hire wrote:
Where's the code example??
It would be redundant to copy the same example of how to start a Process, for each and every option that the Process-class has. I love it; the page you linked to contains everything I need, nothing less, nothing more.
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The interface page I linked to shows method signatures only... not how to actually USE the interface. I could have gotten this information from the Object Browser and still be left wondering.
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I don't see how people think MSDN is useful. Here's a great example[^]. Now I know how to use this interface, but if you search Google, the first hit was this, so I click it, and there's NOTHING THERE! Where's the code example?? THAT'S what most people want to see. Telling someone what it does it not the same as SHOWING someone. It's WAY too little, IMHO. The inverse is this[^]. WAY too much info for a simple subject. The point is, MSDN is technically accurate in that WHAT is presents is right, but how much is presents, or the practicality of the examples, are mostly useless. It's quicker to Google it, or, like I did, come here & post a quick question.
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Except that your examples are examples of totally different things. The first one is a specific interface notification (like a method), and the second is the introduction to a complete class. And in both cases the information is pretty complete.
I understand that.. I was making a point. There's no reason why the interface can't show an example. Plus, if you click the Events link, then the CollectionChanged link - there's ZERO code in either. So WHY post it?? You end up going to Google anyway.
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The interface page I linked to shows method signatures only... not how to actually USE the interface. I could have gotten this information from the Object Browser and still be left wondering.
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Coder For Hire wrote:
The interface page I linked to shows method signatures only...
There's a bit more on that page than just a signature, and like I said, it would be redundant to copy the same example all over the place.
Coder For Hire wrote:
I could have gotten this information from the Object Browser and still be left wondering.
Yes, complete with links to how-to topics, walkthroughs, and more :)
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Coder For Hire wrote:
The interface page I linked to shows method signatures only...
There's a bit more on that page than just a signature, and like I said, it would be redundant to copy the same example all over the place.
Coder For Hire wrote:
I could have gotten this information from the Object Browser and still be left wondering.
Yes, complete with links to how-to topics, walkthroughs, and more :)
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
Yes, complete with links to how-to topics, walkthroughs, and more :)
Where in the VS Object Browser do you see this? I entered INotifyPropertyChanged into the search field, and I get 6 hits. None show how-to topics, walkthroughs, and more. All I see is the PropertyChanged event definition listed.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
Yes, complete with links to how-to topics, walkthroughs, and more :)
Where in the VS Object Browser do you see this? I entered INotifyPropertyChanged into the search field, and I get 6 hits. None show how-to topics, walkthroughs, and more. All I see is the PropertyChanged event definition listed.
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Coder For Hire wrote:
Where in the VS Object Browser do you see this?
You don't; that's the difference between having the signature from reflection and a technical reference.
Coder For Hire wrote:
I entered INotifyPropertyChanged into the search field, and I get 6 hits.
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#safe=off&q=site:msdn.microsoft.com+inotifypropertychanged+howto[^]
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Coder For Hire wrote:
Where in the VS Object Browser do you see this?
You don't; that's the difference between having the signature from reflection and a technical reference.
Coder For Hire wrote:
I entered INotifyPropertyChanged into the search field, and I get 6 hits.
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#safe=off&q=site:msdn.microsoft.com+inotifypropertychanged+howto[^]
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I don't understand... I posted that I could get the same info from the object browser. You replied "Yup along with how-to, examples..." So I asked, Where in the Object Browser are you seeing this, because it's not there for me. Then you replied "You don't; that's the difference between having the signature from reflection and a technical reference." You're only supporting what I've been saying all along. MSDN sucks ass, and the object browser only repeats what MSDN shows. Google is your friend.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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I don't understand... I posted that I could get the same info from the object browser. You replied "Yup along with how-to, examples..." So I asked, Where in the Object Browser are you seeing this, because it's not there for me. Then you replied "You don't; that's the difference between having the signature from reflection and a technical reference." You're only supporting what I've been saying all along. MSDN sucks ass, and the object browser only repeats what MSDN shows. Google is your friend.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
Coder For Hire wrote:
You replied "Yup along with how-to, examples..."
My apologies for the sarcasm.
Coder For Hire wrote:
You're only supporting what I've been saying all along. MSDN sucks ass, and the object browser only repeats what MSDN shows.
Yes, you already stated that it only shows a method-signature. I already stated it shows more. You stated you cannot find the howto's using the search-box, I've shown that Google has no trouble finding them.
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Coder For Hire wrote:
You replied "Yup along with how-to, examples..."
My apologies for the sarcasm.
Coder For Hire wrote:
You're only supporting what I've been saying all along. MSDN sucks ass, and the object browser only repeats what MSDN shows.
Yes, you already stated that it only shows a method-signature. I already stated it shows more. You stated you cannot find the howto's using the search-box, I've shown that Google has no trouble finding them.
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Ahh, ok..
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Are VS service pack downloads all inclusive? If I get SP4, am I getting 1, 2, and 3 also?
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Yes. However, with VS 2012 and later, MS have moved to the "Update" model. I'm not sure if these are guaranteed to be cumulative, although they appear to be for now. But when MS depart from this model they usually say so on the download page, i.e., they will list prerequisites.
Kevin